Slight Newb Inquiry Regarding 4-AcO-DMT

[psilocyber13]

Hey, guys. Firstly, I should say that I have been reading through Bluelight for years, mostly through keyword searches for whatever I may need to know. This is my first post on this site, so forgive me if I sound like a bit of a numbskull.

Onto my question... So, a friend of a friend (this is actually referring to my friend's friend, honestly) and his roommate had possibly stumbled across some 4-AcO-DMT recently. Now, for unknown reasons, as it was laying on the ground on the sidewalk, this friend of a friend tripped and fell and accidentally may have ingested 13mg of this substance.

Now from my understanding, 13mg would be within the threshold for an "average" trip. However, even at 140lbs, this guy claimed he didn't feel too much of a trip. Just a really happy feeling.

Upon being informed of this, I had asked him if he was on any meds. He claimed he had taken an Ativan at some point close to taking the 4-AcO-DMT.

Now be aware that this kid has not done a psychedelic in quite a few months, and about the same for any benzos.

Now I've HEARD that benzos can turn the knob down on a tryptamine experience. So my question (finally) is... Is it possible that that is what happened to this poor guy? Or perhaps it may have been degraded product or just not enough of a dose?

Thank you all in advance!

 

[psy997]

First off, we don't use SWIM or other metaphors for personal chemical use here.

Secondly, 13mg is most definitely not enough for a good trip, especially if eaten. I would never go lower than 20mg, maybe even 22mg if I wanted to actually trip.

 

[Synaesthesia242]

In my experiences low doses of 4-ACO-DMT are great. Just a wonderful energising buzz, not a "trip" but very much still worthwhile.

 

[psykedenlitenment]

I tried 20mgs of this a few days ago and I would say that it was almost better than 2 grams of dried cubes. Visually, anyway. Nothing ( synthetic) can complete with the cerebral effects of mushies. I know it's not the same, but a previous test with 4-AcO-MET provided a mood lift with mild visuals and fairly clean mentally. With 13 mgs.VERY mild. Noticeable but ignoorable. Not sure if this helps, but I thought the comparison might be useful/ informative. I dunno....

 

[psilocyber13]

Thanks for the feedback, guys! And yeah, I guess I should have read the guidelines in detail before posting. I was just anxious to ask my question! But for the record, this actually wasn't me. It was, indeed, a friend of a friend. Lol.

So, 20mg is about enough for a solid slice-of-shrooms-like trip? Perhaps a few hours shorter? I have read so many different experiences on duration.

In your guys' experiences, is there still the weird head space for a bit after the visuals end? And how long do your visuals typically last?


EDIT: I am asking this now because I actually want to know for myself. I haven't gotten to try this yet and was going to try it with him this time, in a few days.

 

[trogere]

In my experience, 35mg is a "welcome to blackout" dose.

20mg is more than enough, and 12-16mg is an OK range.