Sleep schedule is Ruining My Life

I guess I wasn't aware that taking care of myself just so that I could function was so much work!

Tomorrow I plan to try to get up after 8 hours of sleep, no more and do things that I need to.
Please send positive thoughts. I wish I could express to you how difficult this is for me!
 
Pillthrill you don't have a biological "disorder". Don't let anyone tell you that because once you believe its a true disorder a lot of times people stop fighting it.

It IS natural for the body to feel like it needs more sleep then it does. If you are in a depressed state, don't have a job, and don't have much to look forward to in your life your REAL PROBLEM is your life first then sleep second.

I geniunely believe the answer is to start fixing things in your life, and your sleep will naturally follow a more regular course. But the "fixing your life" part can def be an overwhelming concept.

You need to make a goal to be productive at certain times in the day. The day before find things TO DO that you WANT TO DO. Can you make a plan right now to do something tommorow at 11am that would genuinely motivate you to get out of bed? It can be either work or leisure as long as its something YOU LIKE.

I think people get into our situations because they go through life and just keep breathing than one day wake up and realize their life sucks. You NEED to be easy on yourself. The harder you make the concept of waking up in your head the harder you will act like it is. Sleeping late is making you more depressed and depression is making you sleep late. It IS very much a vicious cycle. Its hard to be happy and upbeat and wanna sleep, it really is.

You have to be somewhat a withdrawn person as thats what a sleep schedule like this does to a person. Everyday just TRY to be productive and START SMALL. Stay with what is COMFORTABLE and what keeps you motivated to be productive. There are MANY famous genius's in history who would wake up superlate. Hitler was one of them (ok that was a terrible example), there are many brilliant figureheads in psychology who slept late. They didn't let it ruin their life however most of them just worked around the issue.
I still believe genuinely though its possible to work THROUGH the issue.

Just stop driving yourself crazy. And realize the single most important thing is having something, ANYTHING that you planned today, for tommorow, that will motivate you to get up. If nothing motivates you at first its because you've somewhat rewired your sleep transmitters. You need to fight them almost like you would fight an addiction at first to get your brain responding to light like it should.
Another good thing is the second you wake up GO OUTSIDE. Go have a cigarette just get out in the sun for 15mins if you can. If your tired LAY DOWN IN THE SUN. Its better then laying in your bed because it will send signals to your brain to feel more awake. Although I said its not a biological "disorder" it is very much still conditioned by your past decisions. Same as my situation. Thats why its small steps everyday and a consistent fight that will win. Not losing your mind and trying to make quantum leaps once a week.

We will be here for you. I suggest you at least try in this thread to list some things you *GENUINELY* like to do. Does anything motivate you? Workwise is there any fields you'd dream to be in? Something you feel is attainable?
Something that wouldn't feel so much like a chore?

What do YOU truley enjoy to do with your life? I think this is where you have to start. You ask yourself some simple questions, then you start fabricating a strategy to get you closer to what you want. Life in its entirety is one big problem solving process.
Think think think. Don't think negative thoughts. Think constructive/productive thoughts. "should I trade and my car and spend $4000 or should I sell it and lease a whatever for $600 a month?" In 10 months which situation will allow me to save more money?

It really is one big math problem. State the problem, design about 10 potential methods to combat the problem, then 1 by 1 slowly execute and recalibrate your solutions so they work better. Test, combat, evolve, NEVER GIVE UP. Think about the immense flow of self esteem that will accompany any slight improvement as it happens. You WILL FEEL AMAZING the second you make 1 decision in your life that brings you closer to what you actually want in life. Then what usually happens is you reach that goal and set higher ones.
Its the PROCESS that keeps us going , not actually acheiving the goals. And failure is just as rewarding a lot of times as long as you try. You will FEEL IT whether or not you THINK thats the way you will feel. Just keep it small, make baby steps, and feel secure in the fact that you can practically take over the world by executing just that... baby steps. My names not Tony Robbins, I'm not some bs motivational speaker.
A lot of these simple cliches in life were said for a REASON. I genuinely believe you can fix this problem you just really need to start piecing your life together like a puzzle.
 
Trying, trying, trying. Not much luck.

On another note, no more Pillthrill.

As in, no more pills. I can't do it to Tony. I can't do it to my body my mind.
I have to stop.
w/ds are showing but bearable.
Idk I would write another thread about it or a longer post but I just don't have it in me.
5am was up at 8:30am yesterday and still no sleep.

Did get job apps in though!
I just someone reads this and offers some ideas or at least encouragement.
But who knows.
 
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Apparently you DIDN'T READ ANY OF THE ORIGINAL POST OR ANY OF THE POSTS AT ALL. Because I said I have been trying that. Also you would hear how troublesome it can be.
If you aren't going to read ANY of it. Don't bother typing anything.
Thank you
 
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Okay, okay. Don't tear me to pieces! I should've read it all, I agree but I wasn't trying to offend you. I just skimmed through it and was just saying maybe you're blowing it out of proportion, unless you really feel it is actually ruining your life...

I like you PillThrill. Don't hate me just because of my lax attitude.
 
Sorry, I haven't slept in 24 hours. And I'm quitting drugs so I can be edgy. I didn't mean to come across harsh.
Its a way to get people to look at it and the days I've spent crying over my situation it can certainly feel like it.

And if you know me, you know I don't hate. :) <3
 
Sorry, I haven't slept in 24 hours. And I'm quitting drugs so I can be edgy. I didn't mean to come across harsh.
Its a way to get people to look at it and the days I've spent crying over my situation it can certainly feel like it.

And if you know me, you know I don't hate. :) <3

If it's upsetting you to the point of tears then perhaps you really should push for a sleep study. I had one done where I had to sleep in this room with cameras and at th end of it through a combination of techniques including acupuncture, meditation, massage, valerian root (proper root samples), melatonin, which can help regulate sleep patterns (cycles), masturbation/sex etc. I had it sorted. I did have to be consistent with the techniques and it only started to noticably improve after a week of persistence.
 
Like I said, quitting Tram isn't helping I'm sure.
I have another DS thread on that.
I'm a mess.
 
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For me one of the absolute worst aspects of withdrawal from opiates was a complete inability
to sleep. When I quit during the first week I used phenazepam which helped me to sleep. After that I was usually able to get some sleep each night, but at first it was sporadic and not much longer than 5 hours of sleep per night.

Quitting tramadol will probably have a negative effect on your ability to sleep at first, however in the long run I would think it to be beneficial. After being clean for 38 days (w/ the exception of daily pot use) I can safely say that my ability to sleep is much better than it ever was when I was addicted. Poppy tea had a way of keeping me awake all night itching if I was properly high. I was almost on a 48 hour sleep cycle, I'd often times not sleep at all for a night and then crash the next night from lack of sleep. Factor in withdrawals which made sleep impossible for several nights and I was def having problems from it.
 
I take 1mg of clonazepam, 75 mg of seroquel and 100 mg of trazodone just to fall asleep, so I can totally relate. So far, this combination works very well. The trazodone is a great sleep aid.
 
This thread is broke I swear. I keep clicking on page 3 then 2, and its the SAME exact content in both.
Also, if you click page 3, and look at the numbers, 2 never unhighlights itself, then you can't click on 2 untill you click on one.
I am not fucking high what is wrong with this thread?

Also when you click on 1 its says "1 of 3 right next to it
when you click on 2 it says 2 of 3,
and when you click on 3 it says *2 of 3

The last thread I was just in was working fine lol maybe its a coding problem but there seems to be a page missing.
 
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lol, wow I didn't even notice that. It appears that the forum thinks there are 3 pages but there should only be 2 and the 3rd page won't display. I wonder what will happen when we make it to the next page?

*edit* On the main page is says there are 54 replies but in reality there only appears to be 48...
 
There has been that issue all over BL. Mostly in the Lounge but I guess the curse is following me.
 
This thread is broke I swear. I keep clicking on page 3 then 2, and its the SAME exact content in both.
Also, if you click page 3, and look at the numbers, 2 never unhighlights itself, then you can't click on 2 untill you click on one.
I am not fucking high what is wrong with this thread?

Also when you click on 1 its says "1 of 3 right next to it
when you click on 2 it says 2 of 3,
and when you click on 3 it says *2 of 3

The last thread I was just in was working fine lol maybe its a coding problem but there seems to be a page missing.

Yeah, as PT said this problem seems to be occurring all over BL. The admins are looking in to it :)
 
If you can't stay up all day, at least stay up as long as you can for a few days and sleep later and later in the day, until you get to the point where you are tired when you want to sleep. That shouldn't take more than a few days...
ive had severe insomnia and this never worked for me. staying up can really mess up the cogitation too
Firstly, things like computer, TV, music, reading, anything that stimulates your brain will be keeping you awake longer. So ideally you will need to cease all of that behaviour at least an hour before you're preparing for sleep.
music? reading? speak for yourself with those two

good call on stretching/yoga before bed
 
I do want to say my sleep has stabilized a lot (I mentioned I had the same exact lifelong issues with sleep as the OP) AND I'm in the process of tapering off opiates which is weird.

I started taking vitamin d about 5 or 6 days ago and I noticed after about 2 days that "sleep inertia" phase of waking up but being half unconcious was MUCH LESS pronounced. To the point where I couldn't just go right back to sleep.

Even if you think you don't have a vitamin d deficiency you still should try taking it for a week or 2 and seeing if its easier to get up in the mornings. This was my 4th day in a row I was able to wake up at early hours, and it HAS to be because of the vitamin d. Its a remarkably strong vitamin.
 
Bojangles69 the clock to the roof thing is something thats for sure.
I used to have trouble waking up as it took a lot of meds to sedate me so what i did was but some caffeine pills and other stims next to my alarm clock. When my alarm went off i would just throw the pills down my throat and hit snooze once or twice then i would wake up and be ready to go.
 
Not sure if its been mentioned, but as an alternative you could try something like melatonin, its over the counter, for the sleep. It helps with some people. As for falling asleep during the day, you could try an AD that gives you energy in the morning, as I recall you saying you have some sort of depression. Sometimes when I go hypomanic I can stay awake for like a week without sleep before I crash, so I can empathize somewhat. Another med you could try at night is Geodon, its what I'm on now and it helps me sleep without the groggyness of seroquel.

Just a few bits of advice, but use what works for you, because a healthy sleep habit leads to better days, as I'm sure you've noticed.
 
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