Sleep paralysis after MD & 5-HTP - Scariest shit ever...anyone experienced?

[SilentRoller]

Basically in the process of currently recovering from a 2-3 day party, where I smashed MD & a bit of coke in that time. Since it ended on Friday, I have been pounding about 300mg 5-HTP a day and so far no tuesday blues, and I also have a raging appetite for food which is all good.

However, last night I experienced sleep paralysis for the first time ever, and fuck me...I basically shat my pants. Has anyone ever experienced this before after using MD heavily? As this is a new one for me. I've also come to the conclusion that it could also be 5-HTP related, as I heard high doses of that can cause fucked up dreams. Obviously I'm also getting brain-zaps at night, but that is to be expected. I just want to know when this sleep paralysis shit ends...

I realise I am on the 3/4th day since the end of the party, so I know I am nearly over the worst. Sleep paralysis has just taken me by surprise!

 

[Don Luigi]

Yes, mate. It shouldn't be too much to worry about (except maybe your body hinting at you not to cane it so much). I used to suffer from sleep paralysis all the time and now I very rarely get it because I don't take highly serotonergic drugs. It seems to be highly influenced by serotonin as the correlation is noticed almost immediately after taking the drug. I last took MDMA on NYE but only took one pill and had no sleep paralysis.

Just stay well rested (easier said than done when you're getting sleep paralysis) and eat well!

EDIT: Also - you should use this great opportunity to explore lucid dreaming, if you haven't already.

 

[Urbain]

It should pass soon enough man. Don is absolutely right at suggesting lucid dreaming though.

When you find yourself unable to move, try and focus on making a clear decision, insted of panicing. Remind yourself that you are iin control and will yourself to make a concious choice. Try not to struggle to physically move, and insted, concentrate on your thought process. I totally understand that's easier to say than to do, especially when sleep paralysis invokes sheer terror, but its a great opportunity to work on the technique as you are more or less half way there to lucidity.

Once you master it; all you'll want to do is experience it again and again!

Good luck mate.

 

[blondin]

caining E always gave me S.P i use to concentrate on moving my little finger to break through to consciouness. Not sure about lucid dreaming as you are not in REM sleep its the space between being awake and asleep soreta hypnogogic sleep

 

[BigG]

Had SP loads. Not through drugs just in general. Its wied cos in the dream you would swear you've moved. You even feel your sheets change position against your skin but yoy havent moved at all.

And that desperate urge to wake up but you just can't......horrible shit.......

 

[curious_24]

Had SP loads. Not through drugs just in general. Its wied cos in the dream you would swear you've moved. You even feel your sheets change position against your skin but yoy havent moved at all.

And that desperate urge to wake up but you just can't......horrible shit.......

My experience to a tee(T?).

 

[JohnnyVodka]

Yeah, I always get SP after even light MDMA use. (Well, not the first few times, but ever since.) It's not fun. Best thing to stop it is a benzo to relax you before bed. Anxiety over SP actually makes it worse.

It's not 5-htp connected IMO.

 

[Eveleivibe]

You're not getting a lot of luck lately I've seen at least 2-3 threads from you ober the previous few months about substances experiences that has terrified you. Maybe it's time for a break?

Evey

 

[SquidInSunglasses]

If you take a break the drugs win, and that's almost as bad as letting the terrorists win : P

 

[Treacle]

Had sleep paralysis hundreds of times, but mainly from GBL. It's not so scary, when you're on G. The first few times when it happened from pills I was pretty terrified, but also managed some lucid dreams, on other occasions, which are fucking unreal. The high doses of 5-HTP really aren't necessary. I've never had anything but sleeping issues and other dream-related side-effects from it. Sleeping on your back makes it far more likely to happen, in my opinion, so sleep on your side, if you're expecting it.

 

[Don Luigi]

Yeah it's not so scary once you're used to it and then gain the pleasure of lucid dreams from it. A lot of the time I don't achieve lucidity but it normally produces very vivid dreams anyway, which can be just as good. When it happens, I just let it wash over me and it's over in a few seconds. Although, sometimes it makes me clench my jaws together really tight and I think that I've shattered my teeth. I can usually tell when it's coming on and manage to get my tongue between my molars before the clench happens.

I agree with the sleeping on your back making it more likely. I normally sleep with my head elevated higher than my neck but sometimes I try to induce it by laying with my pillow positioned in such a way that my head is lower than my neck. I wouldn't like to sleep like that all night though!

 

[Treacle]

Oh, I find it's always accompanied by very vivid dreams, which is what I suppose sleep paralysis is. A very vivid dream, that you can't wake from. I've had it and thought I've gotten up and walked across the room, only to snap back to my sleeping position, when I tried moving. I'm just glad that I'd already heard of it, due to Bluelight, because otherwise I would have probably ran to my doctor.

 

[Chatative]

Oh, I find it's always accompanied by very vivid dreams, which is what I suppose sleep paralysis is. A very vivid dream, that you can't wake from.

Sleep paralysis sort of leaves you in limbo between waking up & sleeping or vice versa. I do think it leans slightly more towards the waking world in my opinion. What is often experienced alongside it is hallucinations. I've seen a torch light sweeping my room, felt a presence over me, thought I was being abducted by aliens once, heard music on another occasion... some pretty wacky stuff. It felt very real & unlike a lucid dream to me.

In my experience, often at first you struggle to make sense of what is going on & that is when it can be most terrifying. Being unable to move, sometimes accompanied by pressure on the chest is the worst. The first time it happened to me I genuinely thought I was dying for a second.

I used to suffer sleep paralysis with some regularity as a teenager long before I ever started using drugs. It was probably linked into insomnia I was suffering at the time.

After a while all that disappeared for me though. However, when I was over-using Mephedrone... it would come back again. The only difference with the latter was sometimes I would get body shocks just as I was falling asleep instead... that was always a good indicator that I was going to get full blown sleep paralysis at some point that night.

I agree with the sentiment that it's a good sign one should be taking a break from using drugs.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

It's that evil presence and pressure on the chest that really freaks me out. No wonder superstitious people believed in succubus/incubus/alien visitations.