Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
Why didn't you just IV it to begin with..? How did skin popping become your first option?
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Heroin skin popping heroin and bubbles under skin
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Why didn't you just IV it to begin with..? How did skin popping become your first option?
I think you have a lot less to fear, if you are in fact going to see a doctor, and are seeking treatment, as well as realizing that whether you ever shoot dope again or not, subcutaneous is most definitely NOT the way to go.
So that's a few positive aspects, if that helps at all.
Good luck
So that's a few positive aspects, if that helps at all.
Good luck
BlueHues
Bluelighter
Skin popping is only some urban legend most of us have heard about....because apparently, if you randomly stick a needle into yourself, that counts as an "intra-muscular injection"...."Skin-popping" implies that you're not just sticking a needle into yourself, but you're making an effort to push the needle into yourself in such a horizontal manner, that it doesn't go past the first few layers of your skin and forms a bubble!
In my 16 years of heroin use, I've only seen a few people IM heroin, but I've never actually witnessed somebody "skin-pop" heroin!
In all the outdated literature, it always mentions "skin-popping", like it's a less hardcore method of using heroin, but to me it actually seems more hardcore than just IVing it!
the only thing Ive ever seen that counts as "skin-popping" is the TB test!
Has anyone else actually seen somebody "skin-pop" heroin in the real world?.....The whole term just sounds nasty!
"Skin-Popping!"
Sounds like what happens when you over-microwave a hotdog!
In my 16 years of heroin use, I've only seen a few people IM heroin, but I've never actually witnessed somebody "skin-pop" heroin!
In all the outdated literature, it always mentions "skin-popping", like it's a less hardcore method of using heroin, but to me it actually seems more hardcore than just IVing it!
the only thing Ive ever seen that counts as "skin-popping" is the TB test!
Has anyone else actually seen somebody "skin-pop" heroin in the real world?.....The whole term just sounds nasty!
"Skin-Popping!"
Sounds like what happens when you over-microwave a hotdog!
that would be one painful surgery, considering they're all over my legs and stomach. I'm thinking maybe lipo-suction would remove everything since most of its in my fatty areas i think. I'm going to mention that when i see my doc either tomorrow or wednesday. i realize this might sound stupid or a trollish, but im serious unfortunately. I also had a moment of weakness and skin-popped again this morning. I'm real disappointed in myself, and will be destroying my needles right after this post. Now that i think about it, i think i will see a doctor tomorrow. I'll report back what the doctor says if this thread isn't closed by then (my spidy-sense says that it will).
Pray for me, someone, I'm scared and i want your prayers.
BlueHues
Bluelighter
^Probably not in those exact words, but if you just stick a needle completely in your arm....that's pretty much IM....hitting a vein is pretty much IV....Sticking it between the layers of your skin so that it doesn't penetrate but forms a bubble? I call that a TB test!
forget everything, this is another troll thread...get a life you fucking douche bag losers!
How is there any gratification coming up with fake threads on BL? I just dont get it, there's so many other forums on the web for spineless, humorless little twits to run games on people! whats the fuckin point!
forget everything, this is another troll thread...get a life you fucking douche bag losers!
How is there any gratification coming up with fake threads on BL? I just dont get it, there's so many other forums on the web for spineless, humorless little twits to run games on people! whats the fuckin point!
thanks man. So someone who fears for his life can't ask for prayers, i guess you've never feared for your life because you obviously don't understand what i feel like. this is not a troll post. i realize how i might seem that way, but this is real, and i'm real, and what im going through is real. I actually take offense to you calling me a "spineless, humorless little twit". That pisses me off but im not going to let this descend into a childish name calling session. Let me just put this out there: if anyone thinks im trolling, be mature about it and move on to another thread. I'm in a fucked up situation right now, hopefully its nothing serious but until i know for sure then im scared and i don't need the extra bullshit. I started this thread looking for help, if you can't give me help then please move on.
And on that note im not going to reply anymore. If you have something else to add i'd appreciate it. But otherwise, peace.
GingerG
Greenlighter
Im in England, skin popping seems a bit more common over here but you can only do it in your arse. Youve got to pinch your muscle, push the pin in just slightly and release the muscle slowly, then rub it a lot afterwards. Its bloody dangerous though, abcesses etc and ive never done it or heard of the popping you speak of. Hope youre ok
No, it isn't. Sticking a needle under your skin is subcutaneous, sticking it into muscle is IM, or intramuscular.
I'm not trying to be semantic, but "pretty much" doesn't seem very HR to me. In a vein is IV, in muscle mass is IM, under the skin is subcutaneous, or "skin popping"(and that's used for some things other than TB test).
I don't know if the slew of insults is directed at the OP, myself, and/or other responders , but it's incredibly classless, and unnecessary, imo. We are supposed to be here to help each other out.
BlueHues
Bluelighter
Slew of insults? okay buddy, you're a class act, thanks for mediating the thread....
You can stick a needle in your muscle and it's IM....your thigh, your ass wherever...bicep....
Injecting in a vein is IV....subcutaneous is under the skin....
I guess randomly sticking a needle in yourself isn't technically IM, but it's pretty damn close.....Of course you should use sterile needles etc, that goes without saying....I know subcutaneous injection is used in the medical field for things other than TB tests, but in the "recreational drug field" it has basically no advantage whatsoever....unless you consider the "peace of mind" one gets from not sticking a through your skin an advantage....
And in case you didn't know, there's a lot people that start fake threads asking outlandish questions for some reason....I've seen quite a few of them the past few weeks, and they're usually not even funny...
whether this thread is one of them, I'm not really sure....might have jumped the gun on that one....
Oh well, whatever....I say what I think at the time, sometimes I regret it, no big deal....I'm the same way in real life...
A lot of people hide behind the anonymity that online discussions offer them and say things they'd never say in real life....
Kind of similar to people that act like complete alpha male dicks when they're out driving around in their car but would never have the balls to actually behave that way in real life.....I'm actually a pretty nice guy, but certain things piss me off and I open my mouth and say stupid shit sometimes....
If you feel personally insulted, I apologize, I apologize to anyone who feels insulted.....
You can stick a needle in your muscle and it's IM....your thigh, your ass wherever...bicep....
Injecting in a vein is IV....subcutaneous is under the skin....
I guess randomly sticking a needle in yourself isn't technically IM, but it's pretty damn close.....Of course you should use sterile needles etc, that goes without saying....I know subcutaneous injection is used in the medical field for things other than TB tests, but in the "recreational drug field" it has basically no advantage whatsoever....unless you consider the "peace of mind" one gets from not sticking a through your skin an advantage....
And in case you didn't know, there's a lot people that start fake threads asking outlandish questions for some reason....I've seen quite a few of them the past few weeks, and they're usually not even funny...
whether this thread is one of them, I'm not really sure....might have jumped the gun on that one....
Oh well, whatever....I say what I think at the time, sometimes I regret it, no big deal....I'm the same way in real life...
A lot of people hide behind the anonymity that online discussions offer them and say things they'd never say in real life....
Kind of similar to people that act like complete alpha male dicks when they're out driving around in their car but would never have the balls to actually behave that way in real life.....I'm actually a pretty nice guy, but certain things piss me off and I open my mouth and say stupid shit sometimes....
If you feel personally insulted, I apologize, I apologize to anyone who feels insulted.....
I pointed out that your insults aren't necessary, that seems appropriate to me. I didn't say it affected me personally, but that it certainly isn't helping anyone, most importantly the OP who came here with a legitimate problem. Pointing that out is the right thing to do, has nothing to do with wanting to mediate or moderate.
You can stick a needle in any muscle and it would be IM, yes. That's it. Not "Sort of" or " counts as" or "close enough". Only in the muscle would be IM. But yes, it could be pretty much anywhere there is muscle mass, I suppose.
Sub-cutaneous is beneath the skin, so no, IV, and IM are not the same as sub-cutaneous. I feel you are somewhat being deliberately blurry now. Because some drugs can be administered IV but would be potentially disastrous subcutaneously, like our example here. The same for other routes and combinations. Not to mention, it's just wrong.
I'm not here to care whether the thread was fake or not. I am here to use what little intellect and experience I might have to help others, and get help when I need it. That is why I'm so vehement about getting facts right. HR is important, in that it is the reason we are here, in theory. So facts are important. If he happened to be faking, it changes nothing in my life. At least I tried to help, rather than just insulting him because I assumed he was faking.
I have no emotional attachment one way or another to this discussion, which would be useless anyhow. I only care about getting the facts right, so hopefully others can be well informed, and in that way perhaps give something back to a forum I've learned a lot from.
You can stick a needle in any muscle and it would be IM, yes. That's it. Not "Sort of" or " counts as" or "close enough". Only in the muscle would be IM. But yes, it could be pretty much anywhere there is muscle mass, I suppose.
Sub-cutaneous is beneath the skin, so no, IV, and IM are not the same as sub-cutaneous. I feel you are somewhat being deliberately blurry now. Because some drugs can be administered IV but would be potentially disastrous subcutaneously, like our example here. The same for other routes and combinations. Not to mention, it's just wrong.
I'm not here to care whether the thread was fake or not. I am here to use what little intellect and experience I might have to help others, and get help when I need it. That is why I'm so vehement about getting facts right. HR is important, in that it is the reason we are here, in theory. So facts are important. If he happened to be faking, it changes nothing in my life. At least I tried to help, rather than just insulting him because I assumed he was faking.
I have no emotional attachment one way or another to this discussion, which would be useless anyhow. I only care about getting the facts right, so hopefully others can be well informed, and in that way perhaps give something back to a forum I've learned a lot from.
Yes, if you read my post above I lived with a couple people that did it regularly. More often than they IV'd. But these cats had been using heroin for 30+ years and had destroyed their veins. Every so often they'd be able to hit a vein but most of the time they'd try to hit for an hour then give up and skin pop... Mind you all this digging and re-puncturing was done with the same rig. Can you imagine how dull that thing was after trying to hit for an hour?
dopemaster
Bluelight Crew
I wonder if this thread is bullshit. In fact I call bullshit. Why the fuck would anyone give themselves a subcutaneous injection of smack on purpose. Its weaker and fucking dangerous. It seems like a troll. If dude has sterile abcesses he would have a high fever and cellulitis by now. And to the original poster, fucking google it or UTFSE. If you fear for your life go to the hospital, cuz if you have sterile dry abcesses you are in for a world of hurt. I hope the story isnt true cuz if it was this man statistically should be dead or very fucking ill. Sorry if I offend, but I for real smell bullshit. Maybe its my upper lip, but If I was a betting man....
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The Lone Deranger
Bluelighter
Id never waste gear like this, ive only ever iv'd or smoked on foil, oh and tried plugging once but didnt feel a thing ..
and if this is real, after stating your worries Op, why would you appreciate all the concerns and helpfull replys, then go and " Skin pop " The next morning ? not only a total waste of money, your smack, but like others have said very high risk of nasty abcesses, and good chance of it turning to cellulitus aswell. And a good friend of mine has just spent 2 weeks in hospital with an infection in his left leg, which was cellulitus, and he nearly ended up loosing his left leg, he came out of hospital weeks ago now and is still hobbling about on a very swollen leg which he said the Dr's said will still take months to heal properly.
If its real, then deffo go seek medical advice/care . and if your gonna continue to use a pin, then learn how to IV your gear properly, and as safely as possable .
and if this is real, after stating your worries Op, why would you appreciate all the concerns and helpfull replys, then go and " Skin pop " The next morning ? not only a total waste of money, your smack, but like others have said very high risk of nasty abcesses, and good chance of it turning to cellulitus aswell. And a good friend of mine has just spent 2 weeks in hospital with an infection in his left leg, which was cellulitus, and he nearly ended up loosing his left leg, he came out of hospital weeks ago now and is still hobbling about on a very swollen leg which he said the Dr's said will still take months to heal properly.
If its real, then deffo go seek medical advice/care . and if your gonna continue to use a pin, then learn how to IV your gear properly, and as safely as possable .
dopemaster
Bluelight Crew
Cellulitis aint no joke. The only reason to plug is if your rig is so full of blood you cant get it through the needle. At the point you unscrew the needle and stick the rig up your ass. Its better than drinking it in terms of high. I prefer a IV injection as ROA. Ive done the occasional IM with boy and that when I had alot and just wanted something to last a long time between my IV injections. I have only sniffed D once and never smoked it. I actually started injections with Dillies and Pandas and then moved to D and Oxy. Now I mostly fux with morphine and oxy due to availabilty. If I had my choice I like Dillies and boy.