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similarity between dxm, ketamine, and pcp?

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I know that DXM, Ketamine, and PCP are all NMDA receptor antagonists and are all classified as dissociatives, but the only drug I have real experience with is DXM.

I'm wondering how similar are the three from someone who's done two or all of them? If they exhibit similar effects at certain doses what would the dosages be?
 
They'll all drive you batshit crazy at the right dose but i think that's where the similarities end.
 
Only done DxM and ketamine, and there not similar at all. DXM is a bit too much for me to handle, but i took around a 600mg dose. Ketamine is really something you should try
 
I'm used to doin 500mg DXM easy, but Ketamine is stronger than DXM from what i know, you're saying that the DXM was stronger or more overpowering getblown?
 
I found the feeling of being slightly(or greatly) "behind myself" in my movement very similar on both DXM and ketamine.
As in my brain is seemingly several steps ahead my actual movement, or even disconnected from it to the point where I have no idea how I manage to move around with any accuracy.
Tactile numbness also.

I only have limited experience with each though.
 
I've tried dxm only a few times and ketamine numerous times, never tried pcp. I'd say that the dxm effects are more varied with low dose than K. More things happen in your head on dxm IME, Ketamine feel more neutral to me.
 
Well I hope to be able to shed more light on this in the future. I have a love affair with DXM so I know all about it. And I currently have some 4-meo-PCP on hand that I will be trying soon. That will be only my 2nd dissociative.

So hopefully I can give you some more info... I too am curious how these guys relate.
 
OK the stuff many of us know and you didn't want to hear: :)

They are all dissociative anaethetics, meaning first they detach you from the feeling of your body and the actions of your senses and eventually I think they'll all knock you out and shut off everything.
The reason they have these similarities is because they all fall into the category of glutamatergics, to be more accurate the NMDA antagonists.

What you DID ask about:

I have never used PCP but I have used DXM and ketamine. In the basics they kind of did the same which was to cut me off from everything that went on around me. Only there was a notable difference in the way they accomplished that. DXM was much more vague and fuzzy to me, leaving me just in a state where I was far away and basically too far away to even start making sense of it all. Weed definitely helped with the body feeling (DXM gives me PLENTY of side-effects which I hate) and visuals, but it also made it even more fuzzy. More than once after taking it I just end up almost drifting into sleep but with an addition of confusion. I didn't find it worthwhile.
For these reasons I rejected increasing the DXM dosage even though it might have gotten more interesting. With ketamine the feeling is much cleaner to me and even though it is disorienting and warping it is not fundamentally confusing to me. It is just that little difference - plus the huge difference in bodyload - that gives me the possibility to try and navigate the headspace. Adventuring around in a K state and especially nearing K-holes is a very interesting experience for me and hardly anything weighs me down in contrast with DXM. But I know there are also people who don't have those problems with DXM. I've had out-of-body / near-death experiences with ketamine I'm truly grateful for but recently (though because of ABuse) harsh side-effects on my health have made themselves known so I've decided to give it a rest. Maybe every so often on occasions that are actually special but not just for shits and giggles.
 
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Yeah I Solipsys would actually provide almost an opposite feeling towards DXM. It felt very, crisp. Curt almost. As in, not gussied up, but it was what it was.

I could say I've fallen into a dex-hole of sorts many times, where I floated away on some crazy path and eventually fell back into my body. And that could happen multiple times in a sitting. I never had a single physical negative side effect from the dexter, so I was comfortable always.

It can be confusing at first, as its a little hectic. But once you adapt to your new surroundings, you start to learn how to see things through your DXM goggles.
 
The learning how to navigate is definitely true for ketamine as well.
 
Yeah while I cant compare I'd say it was a lot like driving a new car or something. Felt good, but you still had to figure out how to work it. Like where the damn turn signals are and how to program your radio and shit.
 
Dxm and k have some similarities... But it all depends on how much you take and how you take dxm(pure or not). I used to be in love with dxm for a good couple years, it was my drug of choice. Maybe that is why I love k so much now. I see k as a lower dose of dxm... Dxm used to take me to very interesting places. When I took dxm, there were always out of body experiences involved. Like seeing the room in a totally different visual perspective. I could visual music, seeing sounds is probably one of the most interesting things I've experienced on that drug. On dxm, I found myself just sitting/laying in one spot... And not moving for hours. When I did move, walking was very difficult. I do k at d n b shows, and its fantastic. I love moving on k, I could drink and do k(obviously in moderation), and music sounds fantastic(especially anything with a very deep bassline). I think both drugs are used in different environments, which is a big part of how most people trip. I would never do dxm and go out.
 
I found dxm and ketamine to be very similar, except for dxm feeling much more unclean, and providing a lot heavier nausea. Otherwise, you can see the similar feel they each have.
 
DXM and ket are pretty comparable (third plateau doses are analogous to a k-hole), but I always have a much more profound experience from DXM. DXM lasts longer than ketamine, and takes longer to kick in since it must be orally ingested. It is also a darker headspace and a more capable entheogen (in MY opinion--there are many who will readily disagree) than ketamine. However, expect a feeling of drainedness and visual/depth-perception disturbance into the next day. Common side effects are nausea and itching, maybe some tachycardia. Ket makes me nauseous too, though, when insufflated. I have puked on ket a handful of times. Ketamine I find to be a much easier experience, mentally as well, but notably because its ROAs are all quicker than DXM, unless you ingest that too (not suggested).

IMing is my new favorite ROA for ketamine. I spent two years insufflating it before I gave up my aversion to the needle.
 
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