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FPU4eva

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hello all and I want to taper off my suboxone, and GABAPENTIN I have a strong addiction type(except for grass only think that helps)

i am worried about the GABA I take 3200mg a day of it

i had to spend a night in jail and realized that i cant abuse the gabapentin

can someone give me a safe taper schedule because i cant go cold turkey from it without risk of seizures i live with my loving uncle so im not worried about slipping

its take 1 to 2 times 4 times a day as needed
 
A taper schedule that works for one person will rarely work for another person. I mean you can have an avg guideline to aim for but most of the time you will find its either too slow or too fast for your individual biology.
And lots of factors like diet, metabolism, fat composition, and sleep can play a role too.

You didn't mention what dose of sub you're on so I won't address that right now, but with sub if you're on a higher dose (anything above 4mg) most of the time you can start with a 50% drop. Then you will slowly have to change it as you get lower to like a 25% drop, 10% drop, and its best to slow it down towards the end. I'd imagine thats how it goes for most drugs.

With the gaba what I'd try doing it dropping it to around 2000mg first. Wait a few days and see how you feel. If you didn't feel anything, try dropping big again but maybe to 1600mg this time. The idea is to drop as much as you can w/out feeling to crappy. And if you overdo it, just compensate by taking a bit more.
But that initial drop you can usually be fairly heavy with. From 1600mg I'd aim at doing 50mg every other day. But again judge your body. Once you get down to around 500mg you may have to slow it, you may not. Your body will always tell you that though. But then you can aim for maybe 25mg drops every other day. Again I'm not giving you an exact schedule because it would be useless at the end.
Eventually once you get down to around 200-300mg I suggest taking it a lot slower. Maybe 10mg every other day, maybe everyday you'll know once you get there.

The most important part about tapering though is to listen to your body. If you're too anxious, to shakey, tired, feeling sick, SLOW IT DOWN. Never rush tapering.
But the analogy I use with getting off drugs is like landing a plane. Come in steep at first, and once you get to the end you want to go real shallow. Even once you stop the drug completely (when the wheels hit the ground) you may need to redose again a few days later if its too rough for you. This is like the part when the planes wheels are bouncing up and down off the pavement. Eventually though you will stablize, and be able to not take anything. Suboxone is really a great opiate to taper off of though. Luckily I had very minimal wds but I had to get down to .25mg and I stayed there for 18 days. Thats another important thing is when you get low with either the sub or gaba, stop focusing on making more drops. Like if you're at .25mg sub you really shouldn't have to go much lower. If you're down to 50mg gaba again you don't really need to focus on being lower. What you should focus on though is just staying at that dose at the very end for a week or 2. Your body will be making its last most significant adjustments at that time.

And this should go w/out saying but exercise, sleep, and a good diet really do help a shitton when it comes to tapering off drugs. Theres also tons of OTC things you can load up on to help make it easier. B vitamins, 5 htp, herbs for sleep (passion flower or valerian root) diphendyramine sleeping pills for sleep, benadryl for your stomach (more so for the sub tapering) and lots of vitamin c. What dose of sub are you on are you trying to taper off both at once?
 
I am more interested in the GABAPENTIN right now as I do not want to abuse it
 
Ok I see. Do you ever get tempted to abuse it? I love what gabapentin does, but if you're
prescribed it, and already taking that much, I imagine it would be really difficult to get any
sort of high off it. I mean you'd prob have to take a TON of it. But I can see maybe you're
worried you might use your prescription up early?
Either way it doesn't really matter. If you want to get off it thats what matters.

Am I wrong in assuming that you take 800mg pills? 4 times a day? (just doing the math)
So what you can do... fuck this is hard. You really need a way to make those pills smaller.
The gaba I had was capsules with power on the inside, do you have those or are they
solid tablets? (although I don't think gaba comes that way I could be wrong).

If you really want to get off this stuff you should do some initial preparation to make it
easier for yourself. I'm thinking that either you order a ton of empty capsules off ebay,
or just buy a cheap mg scale.. orrrr ask your doctor to prescribe a less dosage, but
just more capsules. Its really going to be tough as shit working with those pills the way
they are. I mean you can pour the powder out, and divide it into equal piles, but that
will only work temporarily. Once you get real low you need a more accurate way to
estimate/measure the dose.

But my point is I think intially you should aim for cutting your dose down about 50%.
Just MONITOR your body carefully. Seizures rarely just happen out of the blue when
you're feeling all fine and dandy. Usually you'll have some sort of withdrawals going on
first and will feel downright awful. So if you drop to dosing twice a day, at 1600mg, and
feel pretty good, you really should be nowhere near seizure territory.
If you dropped your dose by more than half than you'd definitely be pushing it imo.
Also when you get down to 1600mg don't just keep tapering. Hang out there for a week
or 2. Even if you don't feel sick you still have to understand that your brain is changing
and it needs that time. After a week or so, then you can aim to do one more bigger drop
but smaller than the first. I'd try going from 1600mg to 1200mg. Then wait a week again.
After that you can start the actual tapering. I really don't wanna give you any numbers
for that yet as I'd rather have you come back and post how your body handled the
initial 2 drops. Some people really can just taper fast as fuck, other people have a tough
time making smaller drops.
Its important to find out where you stand in terms of that before we go much further.
Also, I'm kinda curious but do you ever get depressed on GABA? Gaba floors my anxiety
like nothing else but I notice I 'm always serious as all hell when I'm on it. I've also
heard from other members on here that it aggravates their depression. The crap makes
me talk more than speed but I hate the way it makes me feel so serious about everything.
 
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