Tryptamines Shrooms vs LSD comparing doses

[paranoid android]

^^this is where my comparison sorta aligns..100ug LSD is like 2.5 or 3.5 dried shrooms... but yes still very different..a few blotter I'm still up n about as if I'm on a bit of X but of course visuals...while 3.5g of shroom I am more disoriented/confusion AND MUCH BETTER VISUALS(at least in my younger years)..now 3.5 is similar to low dosing for me.


SAME plus I get more introspective trips that focus on betterment of thy self lol.

For me 3.5 grams of say albino avery are alot stronger then 100ug's of acid. For me that would be more equal to 200 or even 300ug's. The most acid i ever took was around 1000ug's and although it was amazing it still was nowhere near the insane doses of liberty caps i had as a teenager

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

For me 3.5 grams of say albino avery are alot stronger then 100ug's of acid. For me that would be more equal to 200 or even 300ug's. The most acid i ever took was around 1000ug's and although it was amazing it still was nowhere near the insane doses of liberty caps i had as a teenager

you sure it was 1000ug though man? a gram? LSD is almost always underdosed - a quick look at a testing lab results wil confirm that

just for reference, I took a genuine 250ug in 2017 and experienced full ego death (total absence of awareness of an "I" for an estimated period of around half an hour), also time stopping , also complete and controllable out-of-body experience too (and when out of body could not hear the loud music playing in the room), and hallucinations to the level of having a 1000 foot tall Shiva smashing through the ceiling while dancing and casully creating worlds (Shiva, not me).

Now, I'm experienced in altered states/different dimensions, and my set/setting was perfectly attuned to serious fully letting-go experience, but still. The 250ug experience I had was similar to trip reports I've read of (supposed) 500/600ug plus, even higher.

Interesting isn't it, and I fully expect that a serious amount of variables affect each and any trip. If you had say a genuine 150+ug dose at a festival it's gonna be very different to the same dose in a specially prepared environment on your own (or with a similarly experienced and very trusted companion).

Am also now wondering about the potency of your Albino shrooms? I have only ever had uk Liberty Caps (as far as psilocybin shrooms are concerned, have also had Amenita Muscaria). My understand though is that all psilocybin shrooms are roughly the same potency (concentration of psilocybin to weight) apart from Penis Envy which I understand are roughly 50% stronger (I have 7g PE powder lying around that a family member grew as it happens). Shrooms are very fucking powerful things though for sure!

 

[foodcrisis]

1000ugs of lsd should get the average person a lot more tripped out than liberty caps unless you really go for a big dose of the shrooms... i've taken 5.5grams of some decent shrooms and it really wasn't that intense imo... what i estimate to be between 500-1000ugs of lsd i will be dreaming while i'm awake completely unaware with what i'm doing. i don't get that way at all with shrooms. i'm guessing if i took more i could get farther out.

 

[Quasimoto]

LSD becomes exponentially stronger between dose plateaus, whereas mushrooms are more linear in regards to dose. I suspect this is because LSD irreversibly binds to the serotonin receptor.

The difference between 100ug 200 or 300ug is astounding. (actual dose)

But with mushrooms, 2.5g and 7.5g are generally the same experience for me every time, with varying degrees of side effects.

300ug of LSD was much, much stronger than my 16g mushroom trip, I can definitely say that much.

LSD just keeps going after that, where mushrooms sort of plateau in effect IMO.

 

[paranoid android]

you sure it was 1000ug though man? a gram? LSD is almost always underdosed - a quick look at a testing lab results wil confirm that

just for reference, I took a genuine 250ug in 2017 and experienced full ego death (total absence of awareness of an "I" for an estimated period of around half an hour), also time stopping , also complete and controllable out-of-body experience too (and when out of body could not hear the loud music playing in the room), and hallucinations to the level of having a 1000 foot tall Shiva smashing through the ceiling while dancing and casully creating worlds (Shiva, not me).

Now, I'm experienced in altered states/different dimensions, and my set/setting was perfectly attuned to serious fully letting-go experience, but still. The 250ug experience I had was similar to trip reports I've read of (supposed) 500/600ug plus, even higher.

Interesting isn't it, and I fully expect that a serious amount of variables affect each and any trip. If you had say a genuine 150+ug dose at a festival it's gonna be very different to the same dose in a specially prepared environment on your own (or with a similarly experienced and very trusted companion).

Am also now wondering about the potency of your Albino shrooms? I have only ever had uk Liberty Caps (as far as psilocybin shrooms are concerned, have also had Amenita Muscaria). My understand though is that all psilocybin shrooms are roughly the same potency (concentration of psilocybin to weight) apart from Penis Envy which I understand are roughly 50% stronger (I have 7g PE powder lying around that a family member grew as it happens). Shrooms are very fucking powerful things though for sure!

Ive had penis envy and albino avery and the albino where alot stronger. Pretty sure of the dose of the acid i took to it was mind melting. But nowhere near the ego death experiences i had on shrooms

 

[Esperighanto]

Recently I've been using liquid LSD that's allegedly 150ug. Reagent tests are positive, but 3-5 drops will black somebody out for up to 12 hours. Each drop is maybe 4-5 times the average tab off the street, and fuck have I used a lot of acid. I suspect it's just the least stepped on acid I've ever come across, personally.

I also used to grow fungi of a bunch of different varieties, and have probably used 30-50 varieties of cube and a handful of Panaeolus cyanescens varieties too. If you're just talking cubes, it'll take 10-12g usually to get somebody to the point of 3-5 drops from these vials I use, so 450-750ug. Lab results though have shown cubensis samples to vary up to five times in potency, meaning that an average dose between the weakest and strongest samples would be 700mg vs. 3.5g.

Pan cyans though tend to be anywhere from 2-4x as strong as cubes, exceeding a few grams is unwise. I'd compare a gram of these to a single drop from these vials I've been using.

 

[Quasimoto]

Lab results though have shown cubensis samples to vary up to five times in potency, meaning that an average dose between the weakest and strongest samples would be 700mg vs. 3.5g.

I've eaten some albino penis envy aborts where 0.5g felt like 5g or more.

A lot of people don't understand that psilocybe mushroom fruits generally produce the same dose of psilocybin regardless of how big the fruit grows.

The tiny, sickly, diseased looking ones are often exponentially more potent than the big caps and fat stems. (By weight)

A rare case where bigger is not better.

 

[Opana313]

I know that usually someone's first psychedelic trip on shrooms is usually astounding if dosed correctly.

When I was a teen 120 pounds and finally prepared to try, I respected it and dosed 1gram. The guy said they were the most potent shrooms he had ever had, and he was an old head with lots of experience..I wish I knew the name but the stems and caps were gray..and visually I would compare it to later trips at least in the 3 gram range(probably cube, liberty cap, or whatever, all of these were gold caps with white/gray/blue stems)

Fucking love mushrooms such a wonderful hallucinogen BUT I also love Acid too and when I finally tried a combo of 4g and one Cheshire or mad hatter hit BOOM instantly loved how much more intricate and articulated the visuals became and of course the wonderful euphoria and sweet surrender.

 

[Godfrey's Own]

I always wondered what the dosage of LSD I was taking was. I usually would take one microdot or one blotter and I originally thought that was about 100 mics. As the years have passed, what I've read has made me rethink that to prolly being 60-70 mics.
I have had Orange Sunshine in the day.

About 3 grams (or so) of mushrooms gives me a trip which is beginning to be intense. More than a dot or a blotter, it's to where I just start to get the "walls breathing" visuals. "Colors", or geometric patterns happen at a much lower dose.

So, I always wondered what that equated to in LSD. 150 mics?

I use liquid LSD.
I'm quite sure one drop is approximately 100mu

 

[JackARoe]

I love mushrooms and I love LSD. Both have their uses. Each psychedelic I usually pic for their own occasions. Both LSD and mushrooms work for music concerts or to take alone to walk with the Maker. Yet something like DPT I take very late at night and alone. Not recreational at all. (Total industrial cleansing... ) But I think both mushrooms and LSD can be recreational as well as therapeutic.

I even visit morning glory seeds on occasion that I would grow myself. Fresh LSA can be as dynamic as LSD. A much underrated psychedelic. If that is all we had on Earth we would be lucky.