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Shrooms - the best drug overall?

LovingTree

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I have done many kinds of drugs, and i'm sure a lot of you have experimented as well. Overall, in terms of the high, effects, etc, I found shrooms to actually trump weed. With weed you sometimes get anxiety and a cloudy mind, but with shrooms is stimulating, mind powering, and just feels so natural. Who agrees to this statement, shrooms, could be the best drug of all time?
 
Your comparing Weed and Mushrooms 8( what?

How do you define best drug? It seems silly to try and say some drug is the best.
 
They arn't made in clandestine labs which is a huge plus. They are easy to grow. The high is total bliss with no addictive properties. Psilocin does everything weed does for me and more without the shitty side effects I get from pot like paranoia, anxiety, fiending, and a bad comedown.They are possibly the safest and least damaging recreational drug, and the most fun. They are certainly far safer than LSD, especially these days when you don't know what you are getting with that drug. And acid seems to make some people retarded, so as fun as it is, I mainly stick with mushrooms. And they have changed my perspective on life moreso than any other drug. Plus, I only feel the need to do them once every 4 months or so.
 
^ haha how can you say acid make people anymore "retarded" than shrooms do.
Obviously you've never seen anyone on a huge dose, it's quite well recorded people pissing themselves on high doses of the fungi :)
Also I have never found LSD in anyway to be unsafe, but hey that's just me. I personally prefer LSD, but I haven't done mushrooms in a while and never a really far out dose, looking forward to this season indeed.
The first trip of the season is always the best.
 
The problem with LSD, is nowadays so many RC's are being sold as Lucy. If you have the real deal, LSD-25, then Lucy triumphs over Shrooms by far!

I never really cared for Shrooms. They always make me anxious. They have a dark side to them, their evil in a way. Lucy feels natural, even though it's a synthetic chemical.

Overall, this is a highly subjective topic. Everyone is different. I for one don't like Mushrooms.
 
Oh, I've seen people drooling, and speaking tongues on mushrooms. I myself have blacked out on them, and they make me severely anxious on the comeup if the quality of the specimen isn't good. A nice big well dried cap will give me a high as clean as LSD though.

It's just hard to get over the insane amount of negative LSD propaganda I suppose. Everyone I know who knows I do it tells me I should "seriously stop taking that stuff before you fry your brain". So I'm probably wrong - LSD might not be all that risky compared to shrooms, but then why does 99% of the population think it's the most dangerous thing ever? Then again, these people think "mushrooms make your brain bleed." Instinctively, I feel good acid might even be safer than mushrooms.

Tim Leary, Richard Alpert, Robert Anton Wilson... these people dropped it all the time and they were brilliant. Where are all these countless cases of people ending up in psych wards? I'm beginning to think it's bullshit.

I finally have the real deal, LSD-25, it's such a mystical high I'm sure of it - but I went through 3 other varieties of "acid" before finding the good stuff - all of which were garbage, either RC or poorly made small doses of LSD. And one of those research chemicals fucked my heart up for a good week, probably from vasoconstriction (and I barely got high). I honestly think I nearly died from a visible drop of liquid on a thick piece of cardboard - I should have known it was an RC. I had to slam beers for a week straight to keep myself from feeling cardiac discomfort. I suspected it was an RC, but didn't think I would have such a negative reaction to it. I think that it is possibly these RC's being passed off as acid that are giving people long term negative effects.

So you really have to be careful buying acid these days is what I'm saying, with mushies, not so much. I think shrooms are more sedating so that when someone has a bad reaction, they don't necessarily become psychotic, just awkward looking anxious gibbering messes. But I keep hearing of people dropping lots of acid and turning into screaming maniacs, literally freaking out. I guess this LSD propaganda has gotten to me but then again there is probably some truth to these things - acid is dangerous in the wrong hands.
 
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Tim Leary, Richard Alpert, Robert Anton Wilson... these people dropped it all the time and they were brilliant. Where are all these countless cases of people ending up in psych wards? I'm beginning to think it's bullshit.
of course it's bullshit; it's propaganda. LSD became a political pawn in the social upheavals of the 1960s, and because it was tainted by a concerted government/media campaign, people still believe the myths. it got out of control, became associated with rebellion and chaos and madness, so it became the folk devil of the time. unfortunately it is a folk devil that has stayed with us.
because research has been stifled all this time (with a few limited, restricted exceptions) the many wonders of psychedelics have not been able to break through the half century of scare tactics.
LSD is obviously not something that should be given to the masses in uncontrolled dosages and random settings. people taking the drug without being informed by social custom or other guidance may well have a terrible time, some people might freak out, some people may have experiences which lead to injuries and various other harms. but don't be fooled by that "this is your brain on drugs" nonsense - in the right setting, LSD is a lot safer than a hell of a lot of accepted prescription drugs...not to mention alcohol.

it's also worth pointing out that leary and co were 'brilliant' before they took LSD.
that's not to say LSD has not helped in the growth of many amazing people, but don't confuse the brilliance with the LSD intake. yes, they understood (in leary's case, recklessly shilled) the power of LSD - but don't forget that in those days, LSD was a 'research chemical' as we now understand them - legal and the subject of legitimate study.
in fact, despite decades of human use, it is still very much a research chemical - just one with a lot of notoriety and cultural baggage.

to get back to the topic at hand, i would say that while mushrooms are undeniably glorious and wonderful, they are not perfect. no drug can be 'the best drug overall' - it is simply a matter of personal taste.
for me, it is also a matter of circumstance. i can think of plenty of situations in which i would not want to be tripping on shrooms.
on the other hand, there aren't that many situations (outside of legal things like drug tests) where i would think "oh no - not now, i'm stoned!" - whereas, if i was tripping in the midst of some horrifying situation or unexpectedly serious moment, i would be more likely to flip out or be traumatised.

that is just one way to look at it though. yes, shrooms can seem like the perfect drug - but only in the perfect setting, on the perfect dose.

if you fuck one (or both) of those up, you can be in for a rough time. i've also experienced physical issues with mushrooms (puking, upset stomach) that are a little unpredictable. not to mention the tendency towards darkness.
yes, a glorious psilocybin high is one of the most fantastic things in the world - but it can also be really fucking rough. once you've experienced the darker side of mushrooms, i think you learn a greater respect for their power.

but overall, there is no best drug. just preferred substances at the right times.
 
yeah like others have said above, this is a strongly opinionated question. and to what OP said about shrooms trumping weed, weed is plenty natural and it seems as if OP is saying shrooms cannot give you anxiety...thats just false, my one friend had such a bad mushroom trip last month he was freaking out, screaming in is apartment, got the cops called on him and had to go to the hospital. so yeah shrooms can bring on anxiety. butin the spirit of the question i'd have to say shrooms aren't the best drug because they taste like poop. currently i'm a big fan of the kitty
 
Your comparing Weed and Mushrooms 8( what?

How do you define best drug? It seems silly to try and say some drug is the best.

Am the only one who doesn't find that comparison strange? Low dose tryptamines feel pretty much exactly the same as a good sativa to me but more stimulating and minus the paranoia and anxiety (usually) :)

What about other psychedelics OP? If we're talking about multi-faceted drugs with many purposes and few negatives then DMT might be another one to think about, particularly since you can dramatically change the duration and effects by ROA - from a 10 minute smoked experience, to a 1-2 hour snorted experience, to a 2-4 hour oral one that more closely resembles mushrooms or 4-sub tryptamines than the intensity of smoked DMT (until higher doses anyway).

I have a feeling me or someone else will eventually merge this with the "What's your favourite psychedelic?" topic, but for now I'd be interested in hearing more about why you think mushrooms are potentially just the best drug, all I've seen so far is a side-by-side comparison with weed, does that mean you think weed is the second best?
 
I think good, clean LSD is a superior drug, perhaps the best drug. It just feels cleaner, happier, more euphoric. The trips are easier to control. Shroom trips seem weirder, darker, and more unpredictable. Still like both. Most people seem to prefer acid IME. I think Hofmann made the perfect psychedelic.
 
I never really cared for Shrooms. They always make me anxious. They have a dark side to them, their evil in a way. Lucy feels natural, even though it's a synthetic chemical.

Evil Shrooms 8)

I love them. 1st contact was a complete mess and insanely OD'd but low dose they're sooo nice!
 
i disagree. i'd much rather have LSD over shrooms anyday, i dislike shrrooms. weed is not in the same class as shrooms or lucy, yah it might be classified as a psychedellic, but it's different. i love weed, it's probably me #1 favorite drug....


i love alot of drugs, but the only drug i could do daily for extended periods of time and still get high is marijuana
 
I think it depends on what you need at the time, sometimes life seems to require LSD just to blow off a ton of euphoric energy and have a great high paced rushing ride, other times shrooms seem to be the perfect teacher and healer that helps to unravel the deeper more intimate stuff that is spinning around in your head and heart, I think being tuned in to what your body and your psych tells you it needs is the key to all psychedelics.

In the last few years I have been going a few months at a time with no drugs at all and getting completely straight and clear, after 30 years of psychedelic drug experimentation being totally straight can be right up there with the trippy experiences too.

I kind of like McKenna's take on it that you should get your body into total clean and harmonious equilibrium and then take a huge dose of your drug of choice and just slam it in silent darkness, don't stand up, don't try and get out of the moving car, just shut up and hang on Hanna, reassuring yourself that most people have lived through this.
 
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