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Need4speed

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hey guys

i did my first trip with shrooms the other night with a chocolate bar preperation

so now i have a source that has many items available the problem is i dont know what to choose ?


i want to get it ready to eat


he has powder and a few different things , what am i looking for ?

i dont want the powder unless i can weight it out and consume it:?
 
???? Powder is just grinded up shrooms.

It's all the same crap as long as he didn't just grind up mostly stems and it's not old as hell.
 
There certainly are many many different strains of psilocybin shrooms but they all have the same active ingredient ( like cannabis strains ) 4-aco-dmt is far far better than shrooms in my opinion, it's a pro-drug for the active ingredient on shrooms (psilocin) but many including myself feel that it's a little different than shrooms (like a cross between shrooms and straight up DMT.
It's better in every way in my opinion but you'll need a very good mg scale to way it out . You should never ever eyeball a dose because it could be 10 times what you estimate. Also, 4-aco-dmt is legal just about everywhere in the world!
 
I agree that 4-AcO-DMT is more DMT-like and has a number of advantages over mushrooms, but then again other people do seem to enjoy mushrooms more than I do.

Unfortunately we don't really allow "what should I take / buy?" threads so you need to read up on these matters and make up your own mind.

But FYI ground mushrooms do still smell a bit shroomy which 4-AcO-DMT or other synthetic tryptamines do not. (Mushrooms contain natural tryptamines but similar compounds like 4-AcO-DMT can be created in the lab. The effects can be similar but not quite the same.) Also it is pretty hard to grind mushrooms to a fine powder and it won't look white. Then again some tryptamines do turn greyish. If this guy grows his own mushrooms then it is cheap to just sell mushrooms in any processed or unprocessed form. Indeed powder is for example ideal to put in chocolates and you wouldn't have the need to do the shitty grinding yourself, with an electric coffee grinder or something.

So let's not make this thread about which drug is better, there is probably enough discussion in the centralized Big & Dandy thread about what people do consider 4-AcO-DMT or other 4-xxx tryptamines to be and what they do not. Follow the link to the Index below in my signature and find (for example) 4-AcO-DMT in that list.

Is that alright Need4Speed? Or are there other questions about your situation?
 
I always LOVED the dust. Unless the caps were closed (also known as dickheads); more dust IME = a much stronger experience. That is UNLESS he did the grinding.
 
Mushrooms are most potent right before the veil starts tearing so right up until they stop being "dickheads" so that would make sense. Also dust is very divided material with a lot of surface area and the goodies can get absorbed much quicker than when mushroom tissue needs to be broken down in the stomach. Mushroom fiber is not that digestible and IMO a major potential source of tummy issues.
Quick absorption means quick onset which can be more overwhelming and a higher peak in blood plasma levels which is also felt as a 'harder hit'. Opinions vary about psilocin esters (such as psilocybin and 4-AcO trypts) being broken down into psilocin, and the rate at which this happens, but personally I would say that free 4-HO trypts without any ester on it such as psilocin, can hit very quickly and get visually very crazy.
Another generalization I would make about 4-HO tryptamines is that they have a pretty light body load or an amazing body high if that.
 
Solipsis said:
I agree that 4-AcO-DMT is more DMT-like and has a number of advantages over mushrooms, but then again other people do seem to enjoy mushrooms more than I do.

Unfortunately we don't really allow "what should I take / buy?" threads so you need to read up on these matters and make up your own mind.

But FYI ground mushrooms do still smell a bit shroomy which 4-AcO-DMT or other synthetic tryptamines do not. (Mushrooms contain natural tryptamines but similar compounds like 4-AcO-DMT can be created in the lab. The effects can be similar but not quite the same.) Also it is pretty hard to grind mushrooms to a fine powder and it won't look white. Then again some tryptamines do turn greyish. If this guy grows his own mushrooms then it is cheap to just sell mushrooms in any processed or unprocessed form. Indeed powder is for example ideal to put in chocolates and you wouldn't have the need to do the shitty grinding yourself, with an electric coffee grinder or something.

So let's not make this thread about which drug is better, there is probably enough discussion in the centralized Big & Dandy thread about what people do consider 4-AcO-DMT or other 4-xxx tryptamines to be and what they do not. Follow the link to the Index below in my signature and find (for example) 4-AcO-DMT in that list.

Is that alright Need4Speed? Or are there other questions about your situation?
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yep

i just have to read up on the pharmocology a bit more so im comfortable with these compounds
 
Get dried mushrooms just in case he is trying to sell you 4-aco-dmt at a high price.
You could easily take to much without experience with research chemicals or psychedelics in general.
And there are different species of mushrooms which contain the active ingredients psilocybin and psilocin, psilocybe cubensis are the most common.
There's also liberty caps, or psilocybe semilanceata. These tend to be much stronger by weight than cubensis, there are also panaeolus cyanescens.
If he offers you mushrooms that look like classic Alice in Wonderland type mushrooms, big red cap, white dots on top, don't buy them.
They do not contain the same active ingredients as classic psychedelic mushrooms and can be very confusing and put you in a delirious state, also they can be lethal in sufficient quantities.
 
Not that it wouldn't be entirely possible but Amanita dust would be a first for me.

Does this guy give instructions on how to use his products, like the dust? What can he tell you about them, are they 'regular shrooms' or are there any specific details?

The pharmacology is not the most difficult thing about the matter you pose by a long shot IMO. Psilocybian mushrooms i.e. all that Holy Toast mentioned minus the Red cap white dots (Amanita Muscaria or Fly Agarics), and 4-AcO-DMT and pretty much all other 4-xxx tryptamines act primarily on the 5HT2A receptor which is considered responsible most of all for psychedelic effects.
Some compounds like some phens or 5-xxx tryptamines do other things as well that matter (5HT1A agonism, reuptake inhibition of serotonin and dopamine among other things), but they are not discussed right now.
 
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