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Shrooms - Eyes Rolling in back of head during trip

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brickhouse50

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Have any of you ever had your eyes roll back "into your head" on a mushroom trip from the euphoria? Is this even normal with shrooms? I would only expect this from something like E.

Also, another question just out of curiosity. Does anyone know the neurological process behind eye wiggles on E, or the process behind why your eyes roll back into your head from euphoria?
 
If it's euphoric you can bet it's normal for your eyes to roll back in your head. It isn't just MDMA. I've had it happen to me as well so you're ok.
 
Hmm yeah, the last time I was tripping, listening to great music and feeling great, my eyes started rolling in the back of my head, and my thinking went along the lines of "wait, this isn't E... I don't think this is normal at all... And going with the flow here might lead to actual insanity because I'll get 'stuck' in that state somehow!". I immediately stopped and consciously made sure not to roll my eyes around during the rest of that trip (which caused a bit of anxiety as well).

So yeah, I guess anything euphoric can do that to ya... I just have a really bad fear of permanently losing my sanity/mind on psychedelics, which keeps me back from COMPLETELY letting go of my ego.

So I guess I want to ask another question then: I well know that psychedelics can trigger schizophrenia and other mental illnesses in people predisposed to them, or just in general trigger permanent mental conditions. But does the odd casualty of someone permanently losing sanity only happen from really bad trips? Or is it still possible to be having an absolutely great, glowing trip in a safe setting, then get to that ego loss state, and lose your mind (or have your mind literally "blown") simply from the greatness of an extremely transcendental experience where you "meet God" and have ego loss and just let go?
 
I have the very same problem, brickhouse. I am afraid to let go completely for fear of going permanently insane.

However, it may be that your mental concept of "letting go" may be skewed. When it appears that you are presented with the option of "letting go completely," do not force anything. I say just, what will be will be, and if you don't let go, that's okay, just relax about it and have a good time. You don't have to do anything.

You're not going to blow a neurological fuse or anything. The worst that could happen, IME, is that you get some form of PTSD from a bad trip.

And PTSD, though scary, is something that is healable, whether by time or by other means.

What I mean to say is, NOTHING is permanent, including insanity. You'll come back. One way or another.

As for the eyes rolling back, just let your body do what it wants to do. It knows what it wants better than you do.
 
on E i get eye wiggles side to side, BAD (but they feel good..but its hard to see lulz) but never anything of the sort while trippin. i tend to blink less whilst trippin too.
 
...ime once you really 'let go' there is at least the subjective possibility of not coming back any more.(I have a note from a ++++, which roughly translates: "I am really not sure if there is a coming back from this place" ...in crystal clear writing, embedded in unreadable stuff...)
of course: finally you come back; but a part stays there. it's up to you to fill this space with (a) new life...
 
Since I haven't tried Mushrooms (Psilocybin = Psilocin phosphate), I can't say, but I can say that with Psilacetin (Psilocin acetate) I experienced the same thing. Not so much at lower doses, but at a high dose the euphoria got so intense my eyes were rolling back in my head and I just felt waves of pure love flowing over me.
 
Nystagmus is the wiggles where your eyes move side to side (or up and down), not actually rolling backwards like the OP says - though you can definitely have both. I've had it with psychedelics before, and often with e. I'd be surprised if there's a known 'pathway' for this - I don't find it to be involuntary, it just feels really good like willow said :D
 
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