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Shroom growing question..from spore print

tranquilo

tranquilo

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Have done some cultivation research on erowid and shroomery but hope that a knowledgable BLer may be able to simplify a few of the procedures.

I am cultivating from a spore print in tropical conditions ie it is currently wet season where I live and fungi grows GROWSGrows

Have read and had to dismiss many of the 'procedures' due to lack of resources; I am planning on soaking the spore print in sterlised water in a sterile jar before pouring the solution on wet bark or wood mulch, in the shade house (where lots of 'other' shrooms seem to pop up from time to time).

I don't have access to things like 'preservative free brown rice' or syringes only perfect natural growing environments :)

I know my proposed method sounds a bit hit and miss so any tips to increase success rate much appreciated.
 
Not enough info to help you, but it sounds like you need to do a lot more reading, no offense. You have to create some type of spawn, you cant just put some cubensis spores where other strains of fungi grow. What exactly is your plan, and where exactly do you live? Are you following any specific tek on the shroomery or have you read any mycology books? I can try to help but I dont understand your plan.
 
I have had good success just scraping portions of the print into the jars rather than liquidize (word?) the print and make it suitable for syringes.

Read-up a bit more...

'preservative free brown rice'
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Available at any reputable Natural food store (health foods)

or syringes
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All you need is an oral syringe which is legal and available thru out pharmacies/grocery stores statewide.

only perfect natural growing environments
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Nature should be able to fruit itself near you than, maybe just a little hunting is needed rather than trying to start your own personal 'shroom field'. don't let me bring you down if your in the right area and have the right land go spore crazy and see what happens. 'shrug'
 
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Hence:.
I don't have access to things like 'preservative free brown rice' or syringes only perfect natural growing environments
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i'm in the wet dry tropics and not in the US...and not a near natural food stores, nor where i would like to go and request a syringe. Those are the parameters...yes i have done some reading, at the above sites, no not any books. I don't have the time...the rural idyll is time consuming:\ ...as i said , at this time of year everything is burgeoning.
Hence any simplified advice considering the above circumstances...consider it an experiment
 
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tranquilo,

I'd suggest going back to the www.shroomery.org and presenting your question there. Depending on the species and the area you are in, there may be methods for propagting certain wild species that are already around. Get a field guide.

I haven't heard of many succesful stories of simply spreading spores, but I have heard of successes transplanting live tissue to other wood chips.

Hope this helps.
 
Thanx evlove...unfortunatley have been to the shroomery already but no luck. Everyone wants to talk pressure cookers and substrates...makes you wonder how mycology managed to survive preWalmart. :/
 
spores

thread, can you start a shroom cycle without spores from a fresh cap or can you just go ahead and do it without sporing your jars??
thanks,
tidylawn
 
You will find your method to be extremely hit or miss. As in, you've got a vanishingly small chance this will work. If you're really strapped for resources and have plenty of fungal material available, I'd try cloning to a semi-sterile (sterilized using boiling water) substrate using cardboard (try making maybe 10+ cultures; without a pressure-cooker and glove box for cloning some are bound to contam), then either liquid culturing (if you've got syringes available) or attempting to directly innoculate your substrate (I'm sure you can find some sort of substrate that mushrooms will eat). From there, incubate, colonize and put in a fruiting chamber, or just set outside (if conditions are right).

I'd stay clear of shroomery; they've got a few good documents archived, but the majority of the site looks and feels incredibly juvenile and the awful signal/noise ratio demands you spend lots of time spelunking through shit to find anything. I'd recommend mycotopia instead as they seem to have a more knowledgeable user base. Digging around in mycotopia's vaults is likely to give you an idea you can execute using your available resources. If not, you can always ask.
 
I'd stay clear of shroomery;
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You got banned there or what? ;)

Shroomery has some of the most knowledgeable mycologists of this planet on board. Granted the main site is a bit out of date, but if you present your questions on the forums in a sensible and polite way there are dozens of experienced cultivators ready to give advice.

To the OP:
Sounds like what you want to do is start an outdoor patch. There are several ways to accomplish this, but if the species you have grows naturally where you live, you have better chances of succeeding.

First you need to find out what kind of substrate the species likes: is it a dunglover, a woodlover, etc. Then you can either colonize a jar of spawn and spawn it to the substrate, or you can just mix the spores with water and spread them around - try to guess which method gives a more solid chance of success? It's all about how much time, money and effort you want to invest.
 
^Indeed.

You'll need a few more supplies, assuming their an edible species like Oyster. An innoculation loop, and pre-packaged 10cc sterile syringes (all of these items are autoclavable), and a glove box, for starters.

If your not firmiliar with the simple procedures, I'd caution against this one.

Also this thread seems a bit more suited for Second Opinion IMO. Good luck.
 
tranquilo if u can buy a single magic mushroom remove the stem place it with the gills face down on a regular piece of paper and place a glass over it and keep it in shade wait 24 hours and take the glass of and u will see a print of the gills get cow manure put it in a container and scrape the print onto the cow manure with a knife or scraper or something keep it in a shaded moist place and keep it moist at all times and it will grow!!! : )
 
Sorry, I don't think your method will work even though Cubensis subspecies are quite feisty and resilient/resistant. If you don't sterilize the substrate it will be a race between your own spores and all sorts of viable wild spores.
Wood (mulch) is a more consistent substrate as a material and will take more time to colonize but it may contain more nutrients when the actual mushrooms are due to start growing. But it will also mean there is more time for rogue contaminations to grow and totally ruin it for you.

Do you have access to pre-sterilized water rather than a pressure cooker to sterilize yourself? Or do you have a pan to pasteurize/sterilize things but not as good as a pressure cooker?

Really, if you use normal cooking your chances are reduced - the same like your chances are reduced when the cooking is only for a too short period of time.
You can ask a million people until someone gives you the answer you are looking for but hearing the way things work is not at all about being selective. If you have limited resource but want it really really badly your chances are still terribly slim.

If you do anything anyway, South-American subspecies may be good for you because they are aggressive colonists though the difference between subspecies is very rarely as big as the difference between species (Cubensis vs. Cyanescens for example).

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And right after posting I see the thing about 6 years :D dammit who did this?
Lot of mushroom cultivation questions lately!
 
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