Shouldn't there be a standard amount of time for specific opiates to taper off and..

Thanks Bojangles. I do plan on hanging around here after I totally detox. There's too many kids here that need someone to tell then it will be ok. Too many that want to die and have no clue that their lives are just starting. I am blessed today that all my children decided to come visit. Lol, they must want something big to gang up on me like that. I think I'll go poke around a bit more and see what I can find out. Lol
 
I think the best taper method in the world still wouldn't work for zero WD. I mean it will def minimize the intensity of them, but there is no full proof method. I know myself and if I tried to taper down the feeling of doing more would take over and I would take more. I suppose some people may be able to do it, I know I couldn't and I suppose that's why I am on subs now. Anyways best of luck to ya
 
I think the best taper method in the world still wouldn't work for zero WD. I mean it will def minimize the intensity of them, but there is no full proof method. I know myself and if I tried to taper down the feeling of doing more would take over and I would take more. I suppose some people may be able to do it, I know I couldn't and I suppose that's why I am on subs now. Anyways best of luck to ya

Well what motivated me is a couple of people really.

One girl "ratgirl" over on the somni forums wound up tapering for 3 months off pods. The day she jumped off she said she felt great. Didn't lose sleep, no anxiety, no wds or depression at all.
I know she was using higher amounts than me for a long time too.
But she also did a verrrry slow and long taper.

Some other person I met on thekratom forums only tapered for 4 weeks, he claimed ot have jumped off at 8gms and not experienced any wds.

Then you have people getting down to less then a teaspoon of pods, jumping off and claiming to still have pretty bad wds. I think what it really is is some people think all they have to do is get down to a certain number and then they can stop.
Like "I started at 80gms, as long as I get down to 5gms I should be fine" but they do the taper in a more linear fashion, not slowing down towards the end. And when they jump off they don't realize they're still withdrawing from last weeks dose.
I notice the people who ride out the lower doses for longer, usually seem to be ok, when the people who are just concerned about getting to a specific number wind up having worse wds.

I cant be too sure in either direction. But the logic I'm following right now is I basically just got low a few days ago. I was around 15gms last week. I'll be around 5 or 6 tommorow. So my body is still withdrawing from the 10gm drop this past week. I think the normal taper person might get down to around 2 or 3 grams and think "I'm low now I can stop" w/out realizing their still wding from where they were the week or 2 before.

So my logic tells me, when you get down SUPERLOW. In terms of pods like 2 or 3gms, you need to stay there for a week minimum, 2 weeks ideally, so your body can finish wd from the last week or 2 of higher doses. I don't think a lot of people wait it out when they're low like that. I'm around 5 or 6gms like I say. If I slowly go lower, but just stay low in general for another week or 2, my mind is telling me the most I will feel is a slight bit of fatigue, or hot flash here and there. And even though it would still be wds, it would be a joke. So I think you are def right in a way, but I'm trying to have hope that I can get rid of at least 95% of the wds. Guess we shall see when the day comes!
 
the longer and slower you taper the less pain youll have.

But just keep in mind that the more you suffer the quicker itll end. I sometimes try to drop my dose drastically for a few days just to try and knock off a chunk of tolerance, but i always end up feeling like im doing some horrible marathon from the lack of sleep.
 
all i know is i got back on dope to get off subs now im gonna try to get off dope with just 2 subs......but i also picked up a benzo habit in the meantime
 
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