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Should you always 'go with it' on psychedelics?

acidclouds

acidclouds

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About 6 months ago on my strongest LSA trip to date I began to believe that I was actually some sort of alien and that my whole life on earth was an illusion. I had the choice to leave earth forever or stay here in the 'illusion'. As I didn't want to leave my family/friends etc I chose to stay on earth.

In the mean time I have taken this experience to be an interesting/a little scary delusion and thought that it was possibly my brains interpretation of the beginnings of ego death and that I resisted it.

So my question is should you always 'go with' thoughts on psychedelics? Should I have gone with it and left my life on earth behind forever?
 
This won't answer your question but I'd just like to share that I also have the same thing on Ketamine. I am talked to by 'gods' who tell me that everything in this life is an illusion and that I already know because I have been there before (I interpreted this as re-incarnation). These 'gods' then encourage me to come and join them 'up there where I belong' however as I get close to joining them I back out because I think of my family and don't want to leave my life on earth. Sometimes the beings laugh at me because they know that I am aware of the afterlife and different dimensions etc but am not ready to leave my earth life yet.

Although I do believe in reincarnation and such, I am fully aware that I am under the influence of a drug and it's probably nothing more than a k hole. I think my beliefs probably influence my trips.
 
One time on Mushrooms laying down in bed, in some kind of deep trance, I was confronted with the idea of pouring gasoline on my head and lighting myself on fire. I did it (in my mind ;) ) and died. It felt profound in ways I can't describe and I'm glad I chose to do it.

My experience of 'letting go' was just some sort of thought game I guess. Are you talking about the same kind of thing?

I say go for it but be careful you don't try and integrate these delusions into your everday life. Just remember you were just f'ed up on drugs man ;)
 
acidclouds said:
About 6 months ago on my strongest LSA trip to date I began to believe that I was actually some sort of alien and that my whole life on earth was an illusion. I had the choice to leave earth forever or stay here in the 'illusion'. As I didn't want to leave my family/friends etc I chose to stay on earth.

In the mean time I have taken this experience to be an interesting/a little scary delusion and thought that it was possibly my brains interpretation of the beginnings of ego death and that I resisted it.

So my question is should you always 'go with' thoughts on psychedelics? Should I have gone with it and left my life on earth behind forever?
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I always "go with it" while under the influence of natural non synthetic hallucinagens (the ones I take are mescaline and psilocybin)

I only believe that something negative will happen if you were sick to begin with (before dosing)

and I mean sick psychologically, not physically
 
generally- not always, depending on each individual- it is a better idea to not 'go with' your thoughts, as you may have heard stories of people un-consciously going on insane killing sprees. This is an overly exadurated point i am trying to make. Lets say you did decide to leave your life on earth forever, odds are you would have gone and done some fantastically stupid thing, most likely physically damaging yourself, or surrounding people. Although going with your thoughts is bad ass in almost every way, its much smarter to veer away from your epiphanies. They always seem so real, but your just on one hell of a trip.
 
my trip last night was the most intense one ive ever had, I slammed some vodka after dosing because i would never "go with it" but I'm so glad i did, i saw my face tear apart and from it emerged a singular consciousness with the universe, go with it. There were some really scary parts this time too, but i think the alcohol just let me say fuck it and let the drugs take me wherever they pleased, and i'll never regret it.
 
I wondered about this two days ago while on mescaline and LSD at the same time. One thing that happened was, I was listening to this song, and as the background electric flute started playing, I realised it wasn't just a tune, it was an alien transmission. Then the entire song turned into a message from some alien Other, and the message was like a transference of these alien emotions and thoughts to prepare us for their coming in 2012.

Now, I didn't actually believe it. But my mind was wide open, like a kid playing make-believe, I suppose - half buying it. What I wondered was, where does it become concerning to 'go with' this sort of thing? And I suppose it's when you keep believing it even when the trip is over. That's when it stops being a trip and starts being schizophrenia. So, if you're not too high, I'd take a step back and ask, "Am I likely to still believe this when it's over?" If not, dive in and have fun. :)

All sorts of other things happened on that trip, including a part where I was judged by beings from a higher realm and told that all life is only a trial ground in which politics and survival are challenges to see whether we'll stay true to ourselves. Was that real? No, I made it up in my head. On a higher dose, it might have been more convincing. But the important thing is that after it was over I came away thinking not, "Wow, I met ethereal beings in the sky!" but, "Wow, what a brilliant imagination LSD lent me!"

But then people come down from DMT trips believing in life after death and infinite intelligence and all that, I don't think that's psychosis, so I don't know...
 
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Go with it, for sure. (: I left, and funny thing, they just brought me home dude.
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Haha yes well I hope/assume that that's what would have happened to me too.

Thanks for the responses everyone - all very interesting.

I guess if you seem to have a genuine choice like I did then it doesn't really matter which way you go, although different options may lead to different trip outcomes and maybe even different mental heath outcomes. If, however, the aliens had just proceeded to take me away then the 'just going with it' advice would have been crucial as it would have been either that or freak out.
 
To go or not to go?
This question intrigues me. That's the hard part, to accept something completely you have to go with it, let it float over you. On psychedelics that sometimes means you need to accept you'll be schizophrenic, a mad hatter.
The best outcome of the trip lays in the option of acceptance.
 
Seeing things differently isn't insanity. Surely not when it's beneficial, or at least interesting.
In fact, I think the people who can't hear the music are kinda the crazy ones..
But then again, I'm probably just crazy.
 
As has been said before I think really it depends on the individual, as those things experienced by that given person may come across completely differently. However it's always important to remember WHO you are and that you're under the influence of a psychoactive drug.

The best thing to do is accept what is happening to you as a false reality (I've only had experience with 4-HO-MET and AMT so my opinion may be limited in some aspects) and remind yourself that you are merely seeing things from an alternate perspective/shifted perspective. What we experience on daily basis may be no more real that what we see when experiencing visual/auditory hallucinations. This could all be a trick of the mind!

I'd go with the flow as best you can. Accept what is happening to you and have faith in yourself that you'll return to your former self eventually!
 
my first LSD trip had me completely convinced i was going through a hazing ritual of some sort, a kind of "welcome to real life" and when i realized that, i was happier than i'd ever been. but it didnt really happen lmfao. the only time i'd fight off the trip was to get up, get some fresh air, tell people how awesome it was, maybe smoke a cig or a bowl, then i'd let it wash back over me. best night of my life and im glad i "went with it"
 
That hazing ritual has happened to me before, too. Felt like a gang initiation. Haha haha.

Psychedelics yo, represent ha!
 
My trips on Ket and MXE increasingly end up with the same f'ed up hallucination that all of existence around me is ending until I simply become a single conscious stream of light without the ability to do anything whatsoever but speed on through the empty nothingness of infinity.

Because its happened so many times now you'd think I'd just go with it, knowing it's part of my trip and I'm used to it, but it never works like that, and I always come out the other side thinking "what the fucking christ just happened there?"

Sometimes it's kind of scary but other times I just accept it as an inevitable consequence of life as we know it ultimately having to end some time.

Just wish I could "enjoy" being that conscious stream of speeding light a little more, "going with it" as it were. But I'm always so far gone by that point that I'm way beyond recalling how high I am (and yes, I realise this isn't a very sensible way to do things) so it's just that much more real and I never know how to just "embrace it" as it were.

I'd like to say yes, always go with what is being presented to you on these trips, unless you have really bad feelings towards the situations. But in practise it's not always that easy to make the decision
 
Going with the flow does not mean grasping a reality/thought train/belief presented to you. When presented with the choice of accepting it or denying it, do neither. Just watch. You do not have to give up part of yourself to remain harmonious in your experience. Sometimes radical "acceptance" is just another form of denial. Chill out, relax, and relax. Did I mention relax? To go with it or to resist? Do neither. Let your experience unfold.
 
Damn Frankie Whats your MXE/KET dosage? I have a Gram of MXE coming in soon(Hopefully pure and not mislabeled)
And i'm going for what you've described
 
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