Should School Districts Drug-Test Teachers?

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Should School Districts Drug-Test Teachers?
By JOHN CLOUD Thursday, Feb. 05, 2009

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One could argue that some jobs — painting, writing, being a rock star — are better performed under the influence. But other jobs should clearly be given only to the perpetually sober: we don't want our railroad operators or nuclear-plant employees to be smoking up on the job. So it seems appropriate that U.S. employees in those high-risk positions are routinely subjected to random drug-testing.

But what about people who work in less perilous, if equally unpredictable, environments — say, with children in public schools? Should teachers be randomly drug-tested too? Yes, says Linda Lingle, the Republican governor of Hawaii, where the teachers' union agreed in 2007 to negotiate terms of a new drug-testing program in exchange for higher wages. Now some Hawaii teachers are resisting. (So far, no drug tests have been administered.) The contentious issue of teacher testing has also become the subject of recent court cases in North Carolina and West Virginia, where educators argue that the cost and time taken by random tests would be better spent in the classroom. (See pictures of the college dorm's evolution.)

But one important question hasn't been addressed so far in the legal proceedings: Does random drug-testing actually reduce drug use?

Probably not. No studies I found have looked at the specific issue of whether random drug tests affect substance use among teachers. But several studies have examined the impact of random testing in another school population — students. In the most comprehensive study on the subject to date, a 2003 University of Michigan study involving 894 middle and high schools found that random student drug-testing tends to reduce marijuana use slightly (about 5%) but actually increase the use of other drugs (about 3%). The authors theorize that drug-using kids may think that prescription and other drugs are harder to detect by urinalysis, so they switch from pot to something else. (This assumption is usually incorrect — most drug tests capture everything from heroin to Valium — although certain lesser-used drugs like the anesthetic ketamine aren't detected by the usual tests.)

Even after the University of Michigan authors controlled for socioeconomic differences among students and schools, they found no statistically meaningful difference in drug-use rates among students who attended schools that randomly drug-tested and those who didn't. In short, kids weren't deterred from using drugs even when they knew they might be surprised one day with an order to pee into a cup.

Still, the behavior of high school kids doesn't neatly correspond to that of their teachers — they may well change their behavior in response to random tests. Which leads to a more fundamental question: If we are serious about drug enforcement, why not require every American, or at least every American who comes into contact with children, to be tested randomly? (See pictures of a diverse group of American teens.)

One answer is cost. In the West Virginia drug-testing case, which is currently working its way through the federal court system, Judge Joseph Goodwin of the U.S. District Court noted that it costs about $44 a pop to do urine tests, which would cost the West Virginia school district in question about $37,000 a year. (Here's a PDF of Goodwin's preliminary injunction against drug-testing.) That same $37,000 could easily pay for a full-time teacher, meaning that drug-testing would have to be sufficiently valuable to displace an entire teaching position.

But the evidence suggests that drug use among teachers is not exactly a pressing problem. In 2007, the Department of Health and Human Services published a major study showing that people who work in education rank 18th out of 19 listed professions in the use of illicit drugs. (Those who work in food service, arts, retail and "information" services — like, um, journalists — were among the major offenders.) Only 4% of educators reported use of illegal drugs in the previous month, compared with 14% of construction workers, who work in a much more dangerous environment. The 4% figure for teachers is still too many, but it doesn't indicate an epidemic of intoxicated teachers that would justify a huge expenditure to curb.

What no one argues against — even attorney Michael Simpson of the National Education Association — is that teachers who are behaving erratically should be tested when their bosses suspect drug use. "If an administrator has a reason to believe a person is under the influence, the school should have the right to test," says Simpson. "But our members feel it's demeaning and unprofessional to make a teacher without suspicion go into a bathroom."

The matter won't be resolved without further studies on whether random drug-testing actually reduces drug use, and we may get them under an Administration less ideologically opposed to drug reform than President Bush's. But the data so far suggest that random drug-testing is a costly, ineffective solution to a non-problem.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1876840,00.html
 
If a teacher is doing a good job and not recommending or mentioning drugs at all, I don't see why it is an issue. If they're role models, well, who the fuck suspected any of their teachers of doing drugs? LOL! They're still as a effective of a role model as a drug free teacher if the kids are oblivious.
 
Absolutely not. Many people I grew up with are teachers now… you know, the ones who work in public schools in the city and work VERY hard at their jobs and buy supplies for their classrooms b/c there's no money for crayons in the first-grade budget (this is a true story). By this point, in fact, since I'm aging with them, some of them are moving up in the administration now. Yep, you guessed it, the evil vice-principal smokes up every night and on the weekends.

Many people who sacrifice money and prestige in order to "educate the youth" are philosophically-aligned with weed-smoking. That's how it is. I don't see a problem there.

On the other hand, I can remember the alcoholic teachers from junior-high and high-school. They were all assholes and one of them was so dreadfully depressed that not only could his successive classes of 13-year-olds notice it, but he blew his brains out with a shotgun 3 years after I got out of his class. After school, but in his classroom. Hard job for the janitor that day.

However, this ultra-depressed teacher was the teacher who screened "Night and Fog", the Alain Resnais film on the concentration camps. That was a major milestone in my education and I never ran into another teacher who would have shown that to a class of junior high students, much less high school students. Dude was clearly fighting the demons. But he did good in the ultimate assessment. Schooling kids on the brutal black-and-white reality of the concentration camps takes a lot of balls and a strong concept of what education should be. I wonder if they show that in schools these days. He was operating WAY under the radar on that one. I doubt it would be allowed now.

Bulldozers pushing corpses into pits. Actual footage from the liberation of the camps. Rooms of hair. A whole room of confiscated wealth, including several large boxes of gold fillings pried from the teeth of camp victims.

Let the poor teachers smoke their weed. Goddamn, their jobs are hard. I grew up in an extended family of public school school teachers, I know what they go through.

**And a shout-out to my alcoholic 8th grade history teacher, Mr. Bennett. (I can name-check, this was a hundred years ago.). I hated you dude, because your personality was just foul, but you had a sac. I have been there myself in the alcoholic dreamdeath since and lived the horror but I never got up everyday to go teach a class of totally uninterested 13 y.o.'s what was important in human history. Props and peace. Wish you could have lived to see this shout of respect on a junkie board. :) RIP bro.
 
No drug testing for anyone. Outlaw all drug testing. Teachers (and politicians) just need to have an intelligence test now and then.
 
Actually, when I was a freshman in high school 7 or so years ago we read Night by Elie Weisel (not sure if the spelling is right) and we watched a very graphic documentary on concentration camps. It might have been the one you are talking about, but it was a long time ago. But I agree totally that it is very important to teach high school age students about.

And about the testing teachers. I think that unless it is related to poor performance or behavior (ie intoxicated during work, or severely hungover frequently etc.) that it is actually counterproductive because drug use is not directly related with performance. So when teachers are eliminated based on drug tests alone than inevitably good teachers will be fired. This is why I oppose universal drug testing for any job except for ones that do something that endangers other people, like bus/truck driver, pilot, policeman, etc.
 
politicians, the managers for the problems we can't or don't want to solve

can't do anything about car deaths? don't get an engineer on a better totally interconnected and automated type of transport system which could be built over time, don't plan for the future and keep the environment clean. just get a law out about how fast you can go and how much you can litter, but make sure the system is set up so that the rich are not inconvenienced in any way!
 
^LOL well actually solving the problems is hard and takes work and money etc. Just talking about the problems is easy, though, and actually brings in a good amount of advertising revenue.
 
Nobody should be drug tested except coppers and politicans and cunts who perpetuate prohibition. Average workers and citizens should be drug tested under no circumstances. If students start getting drug tested though and the educators are also drug testing then they should be drug tested also. Otherwise leave the people alone!
 
Seems like a waste of money considering only "4% of educators reported use of illegal drugs in the previous month". If it was around thirty or forty percent then sure it would be necessary to consider it deeper as well as take academic performance (test scores, etc.) of the students into account. In other words, do the teachers who test positive for drugs teach better, worse, or no solid relation.

The same money should be used keeping teachers update with newer findings (historical, scientific, so forth), newer teaching methods, newer books, school supplies for staff, and other things that would either directly or indirectly help students.
 
Nobody should be drug tested except coppers and politicans and cunts who perpetuate prohibition. Average workers and citizens should be drug tested under no circumstances. If students start getting drug tested though and the educators are also drug testing then they should be drug tested also. Otherwise leave the people alone!
im pretty sure that the teachers on drugs tend to be the more enlightened ones :) (im not saying that there are just as many or more great great teachers without drugs)
 
some of the best principles/vice principles/teachers/HOD's ive known have been tokers. Id hate to see any of them lose there jobs.
 
I'm of the opinion that people shouldn't be drug tested unless they're working a job in which being intoxicated could cause an immediate threat to themselves or others (pilot, soldier, heavy machinery, the like).

The fact is that most teachers who got caught out for drug testing would be caught for marijuana useage, and it's hard to imagine how lighting up on the weekends or after a day at work could serious impede their ability to teach. God knows they need some stress relief after the crap they put up with at work.
 
Am I the only person here who doesn't have all that much of a problem with this? I'm no fan of drug testing but I understand the argument for testing teachers. People who deal with children all day, especially in the lower grades, should be held to a higher standard of behavior than the rest of us. If (God forbid) I had children I sure as hell wouldn't entrust them to someone lacking the self-control required to forgo the occasional toke in favor of his or her work. Is it fair? Hell no. Is it legitimate? Yes.
 
Am I the only person here who doesn't have all that much of a problem with this? I'm no fan of drug testing but I understand the argument for testing teachers. People who deal with children all day, especially in the lower grades, should be held to a higher standard of behavior than the rest of us. If (God forbid) I had children I sure as hell wouldn't entrust them to someone lacking the self-control required to forgo the occasional toke in favor of his or her work. Is it fair? Hell no. Is it legitimate? Yes.
a higher standard of behavior? if a teacher is doing just fine, and they find out he tokes on the weekend, how does that toking have any influence on his job? even if he tokes before school! (long as he takes a breathmint:))
 
Am I the only person here who doesn't have all that much of a problem with this? I'm no fan of drug testing but I understand the argument for testing teachers. People who deal with children all day, especially in the lower grades, should be held to a higher standard of behavior than the rest of us. If (God forbid) I had children I sure as hell wouldn't entrust them to someone lacking the self-control required to forgo the occasional toke in favor of his or her work. Is it fair? Hell no. Is it legitimate? Yes.

The question isn't one of willpower though. There's no reason they should have to forego drug use as it's very unlikely to seriously impede their work. What you're suggesting is that they're subjected to completely arbitrary controls just to test their self control, which is absolutely absurd. There's no reason they shouldn't use drugs unless it's interferring with their work, in which situation of course apropriate action should be taken.
 
even if it is interfering with their work, shouldn't we be viewing it as a medical problem? i'd say give them some unpaid leave to get their shit together, counseling, maybe give em some info about maintenance therapy or something, and then re-assess their condition
 
It depends on what we're talking about. If we're talking opiate addiction or alcoholism then definately yeah, but if they're toking up in the morning and can't teach properly because they're stoned then they just need to harden up and learn that there's a time and place.
 
They already do drug test teachers in all the districts where my wife has taken jobs. That is, they have a clause in the contract making the teacher agree to submit to random tests at any time, for any reason. That said, she has never once been tested.

I think The Chef has a point. There is just no way that most citizens will ever be sold on civil servants paid with taxpayer money being entrusted to the professional care of children, when they have evidenced ANY willingness to break ANY law. Call it a cultural attitude or social more, if that makes it easier to understand.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's "fair" either. I bet if you did a careful statistical analysis on teachers who used recreational drugs versus ones who didn't, you wouldn't see any significant performance discrepancies. But it does make sense, on a very 'common sense', vigilante justice sort of level.

Also, keep in mind that in these hard economic times, education and healthcare are fields that are seeing a sudden flood of new applicants, moved by now out-of-date rumors that these 'noble' jobs are stable, well-paying, and have a dearth of qualified applicants. So now these job markets are sellers' markets, where the bosses now have an INCENTIVE to be picky and thin the applicant pool.

Being 'tough on drugs' when they hire kills two birds with one stone for any employer. It both wins them points in the eyes of Good Upstanding Concerned Citizens, and thins their applicant pools. Illegal drug users are just an easy, soft target that most non-drug-using people won't deign to defend.
 
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