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Should people be allowed to have sex with animals?

*looks menacingly at ChristianSoldier's ass through the sight of my long barreled air rifle*

better run in wriggles if you want a hope of me missing you. Hey! You are only 8 - well 7 posts ahead of me now - well within my line of fire. haha

its funny though - jsut the initial question had me absolutely fizzing mad - I was about ready to break SoHi for even saying it.
 
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Please be constructive with your posts to the subject matter at hand, and please do not insult the posters. This is a legit question that applies to society regardless of how outrageous it is.

-DigitalDuality
 
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DigitalDuality said:
Sex Guide -- Dolphins: FAQ on how to have sex with Dolphins
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out of sheer morbid curiosity I clicked that link. From that page:

When jacking off your dolphin partner "You can attempt to lick and suck on the end of it while masturbating as well, but be warned, do not try to give full throat, and get the hell out of the way before he ejaculates! A male dolphin could snap your neck in a accidental thrust, and that would be the end of that relationship."

WTF!!!!!!!
 
One thing that always put me off swimming with dolphins is that I read a book where a randy dolphin took a swimmer down below and impaled HIM several times with a bloody long hose! as it were. put me off for life. though i might enjoy it more than a man would.
 
duneonthemoon said:
Dude seriously no offence... This thread is fucked up!

Is this what you think about when your alone... some people ponder the meaning of life and your there going "should people be able to knob there pet dog?"

pfft

Should people be allowed to have sex with animals?
more importantly.
Even if they could, who the fuck would want to have sex with an animal.

Ask your doctor to increase your medication, go interact with people more.
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Why are you even talking to me? I dont remember calling upon you. You have no idea what i post about on here on a regular basis.

If you looked at those links you will see there are many people wanting to have sex with animals. Does that answer your question?
 
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Ok, now lets get down to the nitty gritty...I claim that gay marriages are a slippery slope to POSIBLE eventual human/animal marriages. Most everyone says that is not possible because everyone knows that it is wrong to marry an animal without its consent, sicne an animal cant consent to marriage it could never be legal. Well, same goes for sex with an animal!!!

If an animal cant consent to sex, then it SHOULD be illegal, right? According to liberal logic, this statement is true. Just the fact that we have people having sex with animals and that it is as common as it is today, it is by no means a stretch to see liberals years from now defending the rights of a human to marry an animal, based off of some sort of love relationship that person has with the given animal.

Of course i think it is immoral, and should be illegal, but liberals cry out that i cant force my views on others based of my moral viewpoint, and when it has nothing to do with me. I mean afterall, who am i to force others to do something just because i think it is wrong???

You see my point here? Suddenly, because YOU think that this is immoral or wrong it is ok to make it illegal, but because you are ok with something else it is not ok for someone else to force their views on you based off of what they think is wrong. Conservatives believe (and have plenty of proof) that abortion is murder, so we are trying to force that view on other people - rightfully. How is this any different?

The fact that humans are having sex with animals as we speak, proves that a marriage to an animal IS possible in the future, unless it was made illegal. Right?

My point has been made, and i have proved the slippery slope of animal/human marriages.

I think a few of you knew where i was going with this...I am pleased that most of you think it is wrong and in this case find yourself thinking as a conservative thinks. Maybe this helps you understand our point of view on other subjects in the future. :)

But remember, todays liberals are tomorrows conservatives.

But back on topic, why isnt it illegal??? And why arent liberals or conservatives SCREAMING for it to be made illegal and have these websites shutdown?
 
SoHiAllTheTime said:
The fact that humans are having sex with animals as we speak, proves that a marriage to an animal IS possible in the future, unless it was made illegal. Right?
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Wrong, a marriage to an animal will never be recognized by the state because it's impossible for the animal to consent. This has been said many times. The slippery slope ends way before that would ever happen.

I get your point though, when people don't agree with something, it makes it easier for them to support making it illegal.

In terms with the topic at hand, I personally think all sex with animals should be illegal. There's nothing wrong with having a loving relationship with an animal, I love my dog for instance, and I can tell she loves me back. Obviously beastiality is wrong because of the rape involved, but zoophilia is less clear because the animal supposedly initiates the encounter, but how do you prove that in court? As DD said, an animal could never testify, so how do you allow zoophilia when the chance of abuse is so high. On that tip, I see no reason to allow zoophilia in any form either.
 
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There's a large difference though sohi between sexual intercourse and a human institution/legal process/possible spiritual process.

If an animal initiates sex with a human, and human merel allows it.. i think it may be wrong.. i think it should be illegal, but there's really no harm done. It it illegal in most places.

With marriage, you're looking at verbal and written consent over a union that is pretty much beyond animal comprehension. Animals can't pay taxes, animals can't work...

There's no slippery slope here.
 
^But we dont know what marriage will be reduced to in the future! I mean with all the divorces and getting married just for fun then divorcing the next day that we have now, 50 yrs from now marriage may be seen as a joke to most people. Thats why it needs to be kept how it has been from the beginning. Civil unions are another story. "Marriage" should never be anything other than man and woman. :)

Anyway, DD, would you be willing to force your view on this issue on others who disagree with you? Or anyone for that matter, are you all willing to force your views on others? If so, PLEASE dont be so quick to condemn conservatives when they are trying to do it with murder, err, i mean abortion. ;)
 
If what someone pushes for is violating or taking advantage of a being's ability to consent, then yes i will push my views on.

Compared to "abortions", which was a smarter comeback than gay marriage :) It's up in the air when the "collection of cells" actually IS a being. It's left up to opinion, faith, and/or educated guessing. No definates.
 
SoHiAllTheTime said:
50 yrs from now marriage may be seen as a joke to most people.
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or like next wednesday... ;)

I think the institution still holds value for many people, but its obvious that value is slipping as a whole.
 
DigitalDuality said:
If what someone pushes for is violating or taking advantage of a being's ability to consent, then yes i will push my views on.

Compared to "abortions", which was a smarter comeback than gay marriage :) It's up in the air when the "collection of cells" actually IS a being. It's left up to opinion, faith, and/or educated guessing. No definates.
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DD, this isnt about gay marriages or even abortion, yes it is about both of those things, but this is more about a way of thinking and a way of wanting the world to be according to each persons views. This is more getting into the mind of a conservative, in a way for you all to understand it. To me, abortion IS murder!!! To me, there IS a slippery slope (that you cant prove there not to be). And to me, sex with animals IS wrong.

So you agree with me on one of them, and it happens that that is the one you are willing to force on others, you dont find that wrong or hypocritical?

There is more evidence almost everyday proving unborn babies are humans, and who are we to even try to guess when that actually happens? Since we dont know, then we should error on the side of life, not murder. See what i mean?

And about the animal sex thing, you said yourself it is hard to prove zoophilla as being wrong or immoral. So we are already getting into the debate of specifics, one day others may feel it is easy to prove that an animal loves a person and is sad without a certain human in their life.

I can tell you this much, my dog FREAKING LOVES ME! Many dogs love their owners and are very sad when their owner is not with them and sit by the window waiting for them to come home, if that isnt proof for love i dont know what is...i have never had a woman sitting by the window waiting for me to walk in the door, and no matter how late of what i have been doing still shower me with love like my dogs do.

And that unborn baby is not able to defend itslef just the same as a dog cant - same exact thing. I know you realize this, it just may be hard for you to admit it. :\
 
There is a distinction though between love and affection.

Lets use... NAMBLA's case for example. Would you say i'm "forcing my beliefs" unto them b/c i do not approve of consentual pedophilia?

Zoophilia and pedphilia into action can cause harm to a being. A being that is there, that IS alive, that breathes, thinks (to varying degrees), feels, etc..

Love does not require consent. Sex does. Marriage does.

Again you have referred to an unborn child, as a being with inherent rights. When you do not "know" when 'it can be considered "alive". It's an issue that cannot be proven one way or another.. that's why the issue is so polarizing.
A feminist who treats an abortion as if it's cutting her hair, is not much different than a pro-life who assumes it is alive from the moment of conception. Neither have proof.
 
Originally posted by SoHiAllTheTime
The fact that humans are having sex with animals as we speak, proves that a marriage to an animal IS possible in the future, unless it was made illegal. Right?


i dont' see how the one proves the other at all. care to expand?

alasdair
 
Because for the same reasons humans shouldnt be allowed to marry animals, humans shouldnt be allowed to have sex with animals. Yet, they are allowed. And it is all over the net, for the public to see and view. So, if one is happening, the other could very well happen as well.
 
SoHiAllTheTime said:
There is more evidence almost everyday proving unborn babies are humans, and who are we to even try to guess when that actually happens? Since we dont know, then we should error on the side of life, not murder. See what i mean?
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I must admit that statement really made me think........Very good point there......Im pretty much neutral on the abortion issue....I can understand both sides.....But i stand a lil further on the "choice" side.....

The thing is ur comparing apples and oranges......Humans and animals......The analogy is just too far fetched......
 
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