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should I whack

cheers CM...

It's important to me as a friend, seriously, it nearly brings me to tears, as i've dealt with a situation like this before - this one particular guy, has already fought (and now won) a battle with ice, and IV use would result in BAD dependancy... Sorry to be rude, but this guy G's out infront of his mother!

He's a good kid (he's only JUST turned 17) and a valued friend of mine - as anyone can understand from a non-IV users POV, its heart breaking to see someone who is better off not doing it - go down the track... man if i meet someone, and they IV right from the time i meet them, then i accept it as who they are, but i don't wanna c another friend using needles...

even moreso, phateh, you don't need it - ur tollerance is that of an ant - u smoke 3 burns from the pipe and ur rushing off tap - what makes you think you need to use a syringe.

Also, your overweight! are you planning to do this to lose weight? why don't you talk your problems thru, instead of bottling them down if this is the case man!

For all reading this thread - at last weigh in, phateh weighed in at 120kg.

IV use for you bro is not healthy, heed what i say.

But i do also understand there are alot of IV users out there, and not all of them are fucked (probably not even 25%) You my friend will go down the wrong track, i know how you bro! Just DONT... get away from those fucking meltonite pricks - DAMO!!!

But in the end, it is your decision, i'll stick with u thru thick n thin bro! Don't let peer pressure get you
 
Yeah there is ^^^ - if you don't have self control then you shouldn't be taking drugs in the first place.

If anything I whole heartedly recommend IV drug use for people who have no self-control and are incapable of (through whatever psychological damage) reconciling the emotional factors which pushed them into denial/drug use in the first place.

IV drug will simply (at best) accelerate the inevitable. The extreme nature of the collapse will only assist in discouraging the user from engaging in risky forms of pleasure/entertainment (such as drug use), a form of conditioning.

The problem with saving someone life is that you’re forever responsible for them (because how can you justify not saving them again at a latter point in their life).

IV drug use was the best for me, accelerated my breakdown and forced me to re-evaluate my life and realize/understand the factors which truly lead me to that point (rather then focusing on drugs as the panacea, and ironically, cause of my break down).
 
Zaineaol you sound like a good friend and a smart bloke, phateh I think you should listen to Zaineaol, he is a good friend, I would be glad to have mates like him, you should think yourself lucky :\
 
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rofl, when i first saw this topic i thought.. maybe it should be moved to Sex Love and R/ships...

Thats unusual Aussie Slang... are u sure its Aussie??? I thought Aussie was BUNTING :P
 
chugs said:
Yeah there is ^^^ - if you don't have self control then you shouldn't be taking drugs in the first place.

If anything I whole heartedly recommend IV drug use for people who have no self-control and are incapable of (through whatever psychological damage) reconciling the emotional factors which pushed them into denial/drug use in the first place.

IV drug will simply (at best) accelerate the inevitable. The extreme nature of the collapse will only assist in discouraging the user from engaging in risky forms of pleasure/entertainment (such as drug use), a form of conditioning.

The problem with saving someone life is that you’re forever responsible for them (because how can you justify not saving them again at a latter point in their life).

IV drug use was the best for me, accelerated my breakdown and forced me to re-evaluate my life and realize/understand the factors which truly lead me to that point (rather then focusing on drugs as the panacea, and ironically, cause of my break down).
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i think that, even though your intentions are good, it is vastly unsafe to assume that this individual would receive the same benefits you did from this unorthodox method of "accelrating the inevitable" . . .

perhaps avoiding this "inevitable" at the tender age of 17 would be the best idea . . .
 
^^Agreed - it's not worth the trouble it would cause at this point in his life- with school and everything - he's finding it hard to cope and all - his mother wont be at all impressed, shes knows he's on drugs, and accepts that - but will she be impressed to find he's IVing? it wrecks lives and relationships because people simply don't understand WHY!

It may be justified to the person - but what about the SOCIAL implications? IVers tend to GROUP with other IVers.. simply saying - what you do, is who you hang with! (this isn't always the case, but phateh is VERY easily led)

Phateh, get away from whoever it is thats TEMPTING you with this, its just like "Idle Hands are the Devils Play Pet"

As your BRO i want u to realise the serious implications this could mean for you!

Me and Buddha are with u man, speak to us - we care!

As i said before, it's fully your decision, but fuck i'm gunna do everything i can to make it a GOOD one!
 
phateh, you sound like you have a very enthusaistic support base that wishes only the best for you - perhaps using needles can be delayed for a few years until youre bit older . . .
 
He does man, also, if u can understand, I - introduced him to drugs, and everything like that he does, is because of me, probably not a good thing, but i cant change that, and I feel a sense of responsibility over him - i don't want to feel the cause of his life fucking up - so i gotta protect him - im not much older, about a year, we used to hang together in my garage FFS!

I'm seriously nearly in tears - i dun wanna see a mate go "to the dark side"
 
every choice he has made or will make has nothing to do with you, and there is no reason why you should feel responsible if he makes the CHOICE to fuck himself up on drugs (which he wont, because hes a smart boy by the sounds of it) . . .

youre taking away his sense of free will and personal accountability if you assume that you are responsible for him . . .

and im sure many, many of us have introduced drugs to a lot of our friends, and we dont feel responsible . . .

if you still feel like hes your problem think of it like this - maybe it was better that you introduced drugs to him and instilled in him a sense of safe drug use, instead of some other dude, who would encourage him to start IVing drugs at such a young age . . .
 
Although semi serious i was kinda little sarcastic (need to use the emotive icons more often)....

phateh the fact your asking a bunch of anonymous people whether or not you should "wack" only shows that deep in side, you harbour doubts about the road your contemplating .

If you can't give a shit about your body, mind and life, smoke and engage in behaviours that are risky and damaging, without care, then injecting drugs into your body is certainly a method that you should definitely think twice about (you probably should think twice about your drug use in general). Extreme and dangerous behaviours implemented without safety or care are your minds sub-conscious way of showing the world how truly in pain you are…
 
wow.. what a deep psycho-analysis of someones personality... thats pretty amazing

he's not the sharpest tool in the shed... but he is easily led - i feel only partially responsible, but its his mother im worried about - i'll be the BLAME... and everyone loves to play the blame game.. u dig?
 
Zaineaol i agree with you and what you are saying, but by saying hes not the sharpest tool in the shed and describing his as extremely weak willed can possibly put him offside and he is therefore more likely to say fuck it and just do what he wants anyway.

I'm not sayign that he isnt these thigns because i do not know him personally, but i think u could have better results if u choose your owrds more carefully.
 
I'm straight up with what i think, phateh, as a good friend knows that - and knows the difference between my put downs and REAL comments. He understands how i think, and that is all thats required - He's not the dullest tool in the shed by far, but he's definately not the sharpest as i said - saying that, it's the reason he's easily led!

His background isn't great, and i don't wanna see him go down the wrong track - as a direct result of drug use.

Drugs don't MAKE people fail
People USE drugs as a REASON to fail.

The sooner people realise this truth, the sooner we will have a better tomorrow.
 
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