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Should Ecstasy be legal?

yes if they were uncut and totally pure.

but there still would be some cheeky cunt trying to make extra profit on what he sells , so the dealer would still probably cut them with shite.
 
What makes you guys think that there will still be drug dealing after it becomes legal? Do you see alcohol being dealt like drugs are... thats part of the whole reason they should be legal in the first place.
 
I want it to be legal, and if it was legalized, would everyone just start popping e? Like kids popping it before they were say, 21, just like they do with alcohol.. that doesn't seem so desirable. It would be cool if it was legalized but what's to stop it from ending up in the hands of kids?

Serious, most of the dealers I know card their customers.
 
It should be legal. I hate reading people say " It will never happen". Bullshit! Pretty much anything can happen these days! Just think how fast trends , ideologies , information and new ideas are spreading these days , thanks to globalization and the internet.
It might be good to have some restrictions on it too. Like you could only buy a certain amounth of E from a pharmacy or wahtever to prevent overuse. But I guess people would ask other people to buy for them so I guess it would not always work.
 
the absurdity and futility of the drug prohibition

Prohibitions DO NOT WORK. All they do is worsen any existing problems and create new ones. As a resultof prohibition, we have tainted usbstances, unknown dosages, poor medical rsponse to overdoses and adverse reactions, and vastly inflated prices. Prohibition also results in the rise of organized crime and drug cartels.

You don;t see Representatives of Miller and Anheuser Busch staging gang shootouts in the streets vyingofr each other's share of the market? Of course not, legal and regulated businesses do nto operate that way.

Think about how absurd the following hypothetical scenario is. Suppose MEAT were outlawed tomorrow. Then the black market started providing meat of poor quality at inflated prices. People like meat, so they buy it and eat it. Some people get sick and die because of the shoddy black market production.

Then someone speaks up and says, "Hey, this is all wrong, why is MEAT illegal? The WAR ON MEAT is causing the very problems it is supposed to stop!"

A politician or police officer or some other unenlightned fool with limited powers of logic and reason stands nearby and hears this and says, "Are you crazy? You want to LEGALIZE MEAT, with all the people it has hurt and killed?"

.................... and so the drug war cnotinues in its futility for almost a century now.
 
Look at what happened in Amsterdam - they decriminalized weed, and the city went ballistic for about 10 years, it's people using frequently. However, after this initial increase in use due to its decriminalization, the people calmed down so to speak. They accepted it as part of life and now I believe the statistics show that 90% of Amsterdam residents are NOT frequent pot smokers. (Sorry, no source for the statistic - it was in an Israeli documentary about Ecstasy if I remember correctly.)

Basically, if MDMA were legal - for a couple of years, statistics would probably show a very significant increase in the drugs use. Then, naturally, people would accept is as part of society and like weed in Amsterdam it could be controled and safer to use.
 
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Prohibitions DO NOT WORK. All they do is worsen any existing problems and create new ones. As a resultof prohibition, we have tainted usbstances, unknown dosages, poor medical rsponse to overdoses and adverse reactions, and vastly inflated prices. Prohibition also results in the rise of organized crime and drug cartels.

You don;t see Representatives of Miller and Anheuser Busch staging gang shootouts in the streets vyingofr each other's share of the market? Of course not, legal and regulated businesses do nto operate that way.

Think about how absurd the following hypothetical scenario is. Suppose MEAT were outlawed tomorrow. Then the black market started providing meat of poor quality at inflated prices. People like meat, so they buy it and eat it. Some people get sick and die because of the shoddy black market production.

Then someone speaks up and says, "Hey, this is all wrong, why is MEAT illegal? The WAR ON MEAT is causing the very problems it is supposed to stop!"

A politician or police officer or some other unenlightned fool with limited powers of logic and reason stands nearby and hears this and says, "Are you crazy? You want to LEGALIZE MEAT, with all the people it has hurt and killed?"

.................... and so the drug war cnotinues in its futility for almost a century now.

One of the cooler things I've read.
 
.................... and so the drug war cnotinues in its futility for almost a century now.

You know current prohibition laws have only been around since the 60's right? Marijuana , cocaine, heroin even amphetamine were all legal until the baby boomer generation fucked it up for everyone.

For anyone interested the history channel did a great documentary on this topic. Its aclled "Illegal Drugs and how they got that way"


Link- http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=illegal+drugs+and+how+they+got+that+way&hl=en&emb=0&aq=o#
 
I favour the legalization of ALL drugs. And favour over the counter sale to all persons of legal majority. There should be warning signs on the pack and proper controls of purity as is the case with medication. Information folders should be included with the drug. Drugs whereof the fatal dose is close to the recreational dose, would have to be sold in limited size packs.
I think the current situation is counterproductive.

I don't think it was the baby boomers f...d it up. If I remember correctly restrictions started to be put in place during the twenties and thirties.
The baby boomers perhaps were the first generation to experiment massively with drugs (but let's not forget the beat generation ...) and they were met with a pretty prompt and vicious reaction by the authorities.
I seem to remember a British judge at the time remarking, "There's an entire generation awash on a sea of chemicals".
 
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I don't think it was the baby boomers f...d it up. If I remember correctly restrictions started to be put in place during the twenties and thirties.

Alcohol prohibition started in the early twenties and ended a decade later. Modern drug prohibition started in the 60's. Before the wave of drug use in the 60's you could order your heroin injetion kit in the mail, amphetamines were used to treat a cough and marijuana was only widely used by mexicans or immigrants.

Before the baby boomers recreational drugs were present, but not considered a major problem for american health. Since then illegal drug use has exploded. That is the legacy of prohibition.
 
The full on war against drugs may have began in the 60s but the groundwork was laid before that. People were fighting to criminalize marijuana earlier than the 60s.

Ecstatic Ty: Thank you for your kind words. I hope my typing errors did not obscure any of my message.
 
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