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Shorter Visuals Than Normal

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Lately when I do psychs (this has happened on 2c-e and LSD) I will have normal visuals for a few hours of the trip, and then the visuals will entirely go away, even though I am still tripping mentally. I always wait at least two weeks between each psych.
Does this happen to anyone else? Or does anyone know why this may be happening? I have had visuals before for the entire duration of the trip.
Thanks
 
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might want to edit that so people can know how long you wait between, it says "I always wait at least... (insert time here?)"

It happens to me, its random with psych's in my opinion, you never know how they're going to work, its all your mindset.
 
haha thanks, i didnt even notice that i didnt write that in.
so you noticed that it just happens randomly, that its not really caused by anything in particular?
its so odd because ill be loving my trip, and then all of a sudden i notice that i dont have any visuals anymore, and its dissapointing because the eye candy is quite fun to look at
 
Yeah, it is pretty random. For a while I figured I wasn't going to get visuals ever, and then BAM, I opened my eyes properly on my 8th trip (i believe) and looked around and sure enough there they were, here, there, everywhere.

In my own experience, searching for visuals means no visuals at all, but just embracing whats in front of me will blow my mind.

Even after peak, when the visuals seem to have dissapeared, if I just let go, and notice everything around me, visuals appear.
 
i'd love visuals disappearing sooner. in fact they usually keep me awake when i desperately want to sleep 12-14h into a trip (with acid).
 
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Yeah, it is pretty random. For a while I figured I wasn't going to get visuals ever, and then BAM, I opened my eyes properly on my 8th trip (i believe) and looked around and sure enough there they were, here, there, everywhere.

In my own experience, searching for visuals means no visuals at all, but just embracing whats in front of me will blow my mind.

Even after peak, when the visuals seem to have dissapeared, if I just let go, and notice everything around me, visuals appear.

exactly. stop "looking for visuals" and they will come back. you must relax :)
 
Enjoy the trip, only accept the visuals.


...Or if you are begging for them, throw in some nitrous oxide or DMT with your long lasting trypt/phen/dis of choice.
 
It happens to all of us. I experienced heavy visuals on my first (rather low dose) fungi trip, and then after that about 4/5 of my trips after that were largely non-visual... then one day it was just WHAM.

It's all about set and setting, and I think your expectations come into play here especially
 
I think most open eye visuals have to do with physiology, which is always changing. For me, the same dose, from the same batch of the same psychedelic with a similar antecedent diet doesn't guarantee there will or will not be visuals.

I wouldn't stress about to much, though. Open eye visuals are about the least fascinating aspect of the psychedelic experience - novel ideation, ecstatic emotions, meaningful visions, etc. are what make it worthwhile in my opinion. You can stare at old-style television snow Poltergeist style and see all sorts of wild patterns form stone sober if you'd like.

Although, now that I think about it, occasionally open eye visuals are meaningful. Once for me DPT open eyed visuals reformed from geometrical patterns into the body of a transparent goddess-like being who was gyrating over me with a slowly rotating double-helix attached to my pelvis inside her. As the strands grew in length they coiled around her spine, exited out the base of her skull an unraveled into the sun-speckled arbors of the forest I was in as I spasmed below in near seizure-inducing ecstasy. ... Heh, yeah, I guess that was worth seeing. Still, it was the aforementioned psychological aspects of psychedelia that reshaped the visuals through the lens of feeling and not visuals as glitchy bioware flooded with chemical chaff that I was seeing.
 
another thing lots of people don't think about-- your visuals WILL be more intense if you surround yourself with visually pleasing things. if you trip in a white padded room all you will see are... white padded walls that swirl a little.

this is why tripping with animals/people you love is so awesome-- their fur/hair/eyes/skin/whatever will all stimulate your visual center. if you have a place to go that has genuine hardwood floors, that's another great source of visual/tactile/auditory input. time your peak to coincide with sunset/sunrise and you won't be complaining for lack of intensity. spend a trip in the forest and watch wildlife scurry about. go get a 'trip blanket' for those times you will be cold-- pay special attention to how it feels against your skin as well as how the colors/patterns vibe with your personality. keep your favorite candy close by and see if you can synaesthize the flavor with your eyes closed.

and my ultimate favorite source of visuals: CAMPFIRE!!! it's got it all: light, dark, dancing flames, smoke, glowing embers, crackling wood, intense smells, connection with nature, group activity, and gives you something grounding to pay attention to just in case you get the feeling that time has stopped passing. try throwing salt into a campfire, it changes the color (don't use flour or you'll go up in flame!). and incense is great too, especially when coupled with a laser pointer!
 
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