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Short Methadone taper from 6 months using Heroin plus those other opiate goodies...

T2K47

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Hey everyone! May I just say first, I came across this wonderful (and lifesaving!) forum about 4-5 years ago.

I have found and used valued information for various 'experiences' and finally decided to get signed up and
see what it's all about (and possibly what I can contribute back). =]

Anyway, despite many years of (at times, quite crazy!) drug use and what I would call 'getting away with it',
I have recently found myself caught in the 'trap' of the wonderful (and painful) world of opiate/opioid addiction.

My first experience with a drug from the opiate family was about 5 years ago, I was given several 30mg
or 60mg (can't remember which but I know they were prescription only and without any 'nasties' such as
paracetamol/ibuprofen), Dihydrocodeine pills. I was a lot younger and less educated at this time and never
would have thought anything 'legal' and 'medicinal' would have such a profound recreational potential!

Well to cut a long story short, I Poi Dance as a hobby and due to a pulled muscle from performing this hobby
at a friend's party (I didn't warm up and was rather high from Cannabis at the time), I ended up being given two
of these DHC tablets from my friend the following morning, which I later found out to be left over
from a broken leg he had a year or so before I met him.

So I took these pills thinking they were a simple painkiller like I had many times before (paracetamol/ibuprofen)
only to find out about an hour later I felt ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. I asked my friend what the hell was going on
and he explained what they were. Then bam, a quick Google search revealed it all. Over the next couple of years
or so (whilst with my ex who did not use any drugs bar Alcohol, had no problem with my usage as I had a job and
was a happy guy with or without drugs) I very rarely came across any more opiates/opioids apart from Tramadol.
I very much enjoyed Tramadol yet could eat through a strip or a packet and be totally cool when I ran out.

It wasn't until about 6 months before me and my ex split up (which sent me off the rails, I'll get to that later...) I had
discovered OTC Co-Codamol and thanks to this website the CWE. Well, I was a very happy chappy at this discovery,
and every few weeks found myself getting nicely high from Codeine. It wasn't until she left me that I found truely the
power of opiates and how the can just take all the pain away, I'm sure people will know what I mean by that.

Anyway, eventually I literally stumbled across a guy (who is now a friend) that could hook me up with DF118 and Zomorph
10mg pills and 1mg/1ml Methadone syrup. So as you can imagine, drinking up to what tolerance I had built by this point,
of 4 packets of 32 8/500 Co-Codamols (CWE'd of course!), so about a gram of Codeine give or take, the stronger opiates
were warmly welcomed. I managed to stay a user free from physical addiction from opiates for years. But this soon changed
and I began using Heroin (only ever smoked on foil) with this new friend.

Still, I pushed it and pushed it, knowing the risks, for a few months using Heroin, Morphine and Methadone (only the 'done when I couldn't score and began feeling withdrawals which was about 2 months ago). I mean, I am just such a better person k
all round when doped up, at home, with friends, with the current gf who has no idea and would not tolerate my usage at all, in fact no one apart from my friend who uses knows of this habit. I work as a drugs key worker so cannot get onto a Methadone
program without losing my job which is out of the question.

Now, my friend got put back onto supervised consumption of his Methadone, so with that and being SICK already of the lifestyle, I bought his last 2 take home 80ml bottles, so 160mg in total, to do a quick taper off as pain free as possible and get out of this mess before I get in too deep. I had read this could be possible so thought I'd give it a try. I have only really been
using the last couple of months to keep the nasty rattle away for the sake of my work, social and love life. Overall I am sick
of this lifestyle and do not want to lose my job or gf because of it.

I started on Xmas day! As I was spending the day with my gf and he family I simply could not be rattling, I barely manage the
rattle when I'm alone in my flat, let alone being around lots of people who would not at all condone using Heroin and kids too.
I smoked my last ten bag at about 8am not long before my gf came by mine to pick me up. Armed with the last high and a bottle of 40ml/mg of Methadone in my pocket off I went to enjoy Xmas day.

Me and my gf left the festivities at about 7pm and in the taxi back to my place I began to feel the shit hitting the fan and the rattle was on it's way and fast! We got back to mine, I went to the toilet and whilst in there, drank my 40mg dose, out of sight from my gf. I was beginning to feel awful and then the Methadone begun to work it's magic. Slept fine, felt fine, until the
day at about 1pm I begun feeling sick again and again, fast. My gf left at 2pm and I instantly took another 20ml dose. This held me and I woke up for work the next day at 8am feeling again, sick. Another 20ml (the first bottle gone now) and I was ok enough to work.

Anyway, sorry for the long ass post but I am now at my question. I had not much sleep last night but felt well. Upon waking I felt sick but this soon passed without another dose of Methadone. Now I understand that 'done has a lengthy half life, but
I feel suprisingly ok right now, almost 36 hours from my last dose. Although I am scared that later or tomorrow I will begin to feel sick again, I just wanna get a few opinions from others before I redose.

Have I made it out of the woods relatively pain free or is the half life of Methadone playing it's tune for me still? I have more just in case as I am meeting my gf for the day tomorrow and cannot be sick.

Thanks for anyone who takes time in reading this =] if I have broken any rules I apologise and will do my best to avoid it in the future. Also thanks for anyone who can help me out. I want rid of this addiction and I'm glad it hasn't been too lengthy yet.

Peace to you all =]

TK
 
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At 36 hours you should be at the top end of its halflife, with the doses you have taken. You will get a bit of a rattle still but you might be through the worst of it.
Withdrawals a funny thing, in that its not always a linear experience. You might get a day where you feel ok and think your through the worst of it and then bang! Its back full force.
My advice would be to remain cautiously hopeful (good PMA is half the battle) but be prepared for shit to get worse before it gets better. You cant cheat a withdrawal but you can get lucky regarding severity.
 
Hey bunge. Thanks for your input and my first reply =] the rattle is seeming to pop it's head out of the dirt for about 10-15 minutes and then
goes back into hiding. I've just eaten a fairly large meal and enjoyed it which is obviously not heard of whilst wding. But I am prepared, well
at least I'm telling myself. Since becoming addicted I haven't been able to face any situation (not even alone in bed watching TV or playing
XBox to take my mind off it) if it had been longer than a maximum of 24 hours since last dose of H or Morph. But I know it could be a lot
worse due to how short my habit has been.

Fingers crossed. I just wanna get past the physical wd and I know the mental side of it isn't easy but at least it isn't something people will
notice as easily as a shitting, spewing, sweating and shaking mess! Plus as I'm training at work as a key worker for drug users, the irony,
I can attend SMART Recovery and NA Groups as training but take it all in, you know what I mean?

Sod it just wanna get past this, seems like forever but it isn't, is it?! xD

Peace.

TK

Edit - Apologies as to the format of the text I'm using my mobile...
 
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Bloody hell. I managed fine all day until a friend gave me 10 10mg Zomorph Morphine Sulphate pills. My gf really pissed me off earlier so I've gone and taken 3 then not long after, about 5 minutes ago, another 2. All crushed up very fine, dissolved in warm water and syringed up my arse... Feel better at least... But as I imagine it's gonna fuck with my withdrawals. Plus I am going to be given the chance to smoke some H with a friend tomorrow and I ain't paying... My willpower sucks. I'm really considering a Methadone or Subutex plan (I finish my job at the end of February so will be able to get help from then, as I work for the local drug service, the Job Centre got me a 6 month job there...) But I just wanna ask if I would be making my life harder or not? I've heard Meth and Sub are harder to get off... Plus it would be very hard to be on a plan and keep it from everyone. People cannot find out i.e. my gf, few friends.

Just want a little help guys and girls. I'm feeling very lost right now. Thank you.

Peace.

TK
 
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