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Shooting up Endone?

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allupinyohair

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I had emergency surgery done on my insides (was stabbed four times in my gut) at the end of last month and just got released today. Was on a morphine drip and IV'ed fentanyl in hospital, I'm off it now but I feel like shit (was on it for a good two weeks). Anyone know how to shoot up endone properly or if it's even advised? I'm just curious but I probably will not do it. The endones do nothing at the moment taken orally. I've only ever messed with uppers (E mainly) but I really loved the feeling of the morph/fent and it killed the pain (dull throbbing pains - unbearable atm).
 
Don't do it. Just eat or snort them. But even snorting endone is pretty stupid, they're such chunky pills with only 5mg oxycodone in them. Not worth it. I've snorted lots of endone though and it really just blocks your nose up.

But definitely do not IV them. But if you must, get micron filters.

Or if your comfortable with it, you could crush them up, dissolve them into some water then squirt it up your ass with a needleless syringe. That'd give you the closest rush to IV without IVing.
 
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i havnt had a problem with snorting endone. sure there is alot of it, but it didnt burn my nose at all. if anything i had abit of a sweet drip going on haha. much easier to just eat a few though.
 
Sorry to hear you were stabbed too. Thats terrible, care to elaborate on the story? I'm interested.
 
Endones are just oxycodone. IVing them won't do that much for you if you're not finding them effective orally (it has a pretty high oral bioavailability). As puckboy said if you were to IV them a micron/wheel filter would be a must though. I'd stick to crushing and eating them.

"The bioavailability of oral administration averages 60–87%, with rectal administration yielding the same results; intranasal varies between individuals with a mean of 46%."
 
I was out with my girl and a group of friends on last sat night of sep in the cbd, ran into a bunch of these guys... everything was cool until we got into an arguement (don't even know what about) one of them hit one of our friend's girlfriends in the face. I ended up knocking out that idiot then from there, didn't remember much only that i felt the worst pain I've ever experienced (felt like my stomach exploded), we recovered and there was alot of blood. Luckily, ambo arrived quickly... Lost alot of blood and the pain was absolutely unbearable. Got bedded, scanned quickly, done surgery, woke up in HCU... Horrible experience.
 
puckboy said:
Don't do it. Just eat or snort them. But even snorting endone is pretty stupid, they're such chunky pills with only 5mg oxycodone in them. Not worth it. I've snorted lots of endone though and it really just blocks your nose up.

But definitely do not IV them. But if you must, get micron filters.

Or if your comfortable with it, you could crush them up, dissolve them into some water then squirt it up your ass with a needleless syringe. That'd give you the closest rush to IV without IVing.
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to take it rectally, would I have to clean out my bowels before doing so? They gave us molvacol in the hospital but I pretty much hid the packages because I didn't want to make a mess (they gave it at night and my walking was very limited so yeah)
 
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you got stabbed thats fucked up and in the gut is going to give you digestive problems ... i.e. cramps , heartburn , diareah etc but should get better as months progress.

I hope police catch them , cctv or similar ... your in sydney ?? george st is bad at night .. lots of leb gangs , maori gangs , asian gangs ..

when I'm around that way I always watch my surroundings and If I see any fucker stare and give me funny looks I am ready to get into action ... it's sad the way things are these days ..


anyhow follow advice from others above ... the pills you have are not for iv use and would have alot of anti caking agents to make them slow release ... and would clot ya veins and fuck you over ... I seen it before .. ;(

You have a taste for opiates now ? and you have never had heroin before ??

I have seen alot of people go from non junkies to junkies because of a major hospital visit so try smoking weed or having few shots of scotch to help you..if the meds are not working enough.
 
Damn, some people are cunts eh. Hope you recover quickly.

Regarding the rectal method. Yeah its best to have your bowels as empty as possible, so none of the solution gets absorbed into any faeces. But ultimately if you've released your bowels recently enough it should work fine. Plugging opiates is great. Closest you'll get to IV without actually IVing.
 
Thats fuked up man, sorry to hear that happened to u. Makes me frustrated and angry when i hear things like that. U can never feel safe. Hope everything works out well for ya.

Bout the endones, 5mg isnt very much at all. Not even worth using orally recreationaly especially after using fentanyl and morphine where ur tolerance is through the roof i rekon after 2 weeks. If the pain is unbearable might wanna ask for sumfn stronger? oxycontin20-40?
 
they have prescribed me three boxes of endone and half a pack of oxycontin SR 10mgs, unfortunately the oxys do not do much at all (have only 2 left) and the endones are hopeless unless I pop about 8 at a time so yeah I guess my tolerance is through the roof at the moment. Blarghh. I'll probably shelve 'em though, gotta clean my guts out again but.
 
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8.3 Addiction
Addiction is defined as craving for more of a drug for reasons other than analgesia and also by ongoing use of the drug despite clear evidence of harm. The presence of behaviour suggestive of addiction may require referral to a Drug and Alcohol team and either cessation of opioid therapy or maintenance under tighter supervision. Aberrant drug-related behaviours predictive of developing addiction have been classified by Portenoy41:
Major aberrant behaviours (more predictive)
i. Selling prescription drugs
ii. Prescription forgery
iii. Stealing or borrowing drugs from others
iv. Injecting oral formulations
v. Obtaining prescription drugs from non-medical sources
vi. Concurrent abuse of alcohol or illicit drugs
vii. Multiple non-sanctioned dose escalations
viii. Multiple episodes of prescription loss
ix. Repeatedly seeking prescriptions from other sources
x. Deterioration in function at work, in family or socially
xi. Repeated resistance to change in therapy despite evidence of adverse drug effects
Minor aberrant behaviours (less predictive)
i. Aggressive complaining about the need for more drug
ii. Drug hoarding during periods of reduced symptoms
iii. Requesting specific drugs
iv. Openly acquiring similar drugs from other medical sources
v. Unsanctioned dose escalation
vi. Unapproved use of the drug to treat other symptoms
 
I'm sorry to hear about the stabbing man. That really sucks! Its ridiculous that these things happen and that people will actually take a knife with them when they go out. Worries me sometimes.....
Maybe you should go to the doctor and explain that the endones aren't doing enough for you. Explain that you think you have a tolerance and that they aren't sufficient in managing the pain. They will hopefully be sympathetic and give you something stronger.
As already said, don't shoot the endones.
 
they are keeping me on endone, my GP doesn't want me at all on oxy and seems happy enough to give me endone whenever I feel like it atm. The pain is horrible but I have been taking a few panadiene forte with them and mersyndol... I might try and detox a bit though.
 
yea those endones are definately not worth to iv!! the ones they have here, there is so much binder in the capsule and just for a 5mg, have seen someone iv about 40-50mgs and lul the spoon was like a heap of flour and wont fit in a 1ml cos it looks like play dough - 3ml barrel. just worth racking up or dropping em i'd say. Best to use the 40, 80mg oxys for iv (if you iv that is, not recomending to try if you havent!!)..

nb. hope you have a speedy recovery!, hope theyre having there day in court!?..
 
You are entitled to decent pain relief - keep talking to your doctor. "unbearable throbbing pain" is not something you should have to put up with. It's less than a month since the incident so it's not surpising you're still in pain.

Bear in mind that any opiate is going to constipate you, so given the nature of your injury that may be a reason for your GP's reticence in prescribing these (may be another alternative?). It's a bit funny that he doesn't want to give you the oxy but will happily give you the endone, given it's the same drug. Sounds like he may also suspect you of "drug seeking behaviour" (a la MadMick's post) - so that might be a factor too... try a different GP if you don't get any joy..
 
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they are keeping me on endone, my GP doesn't want me at all on oxy and seems happy enough to give me endone whenever I feel like it atm. The pain is horrible but I have been taking a few panadiene forte with them and mersyndol... I might try and detox a bit though.
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that's rather strange. without the necessary scans and records then doctors are usually extremely stringent on prescribing oxycodone in any form. without the proper documentation a GP is only allowed to supply a patient with a 30day supply of tabs and i'm guessing you have that. i'd suggest seeing another doctor who will treat you accordingly - you deserve that right.

i wouldn't even attempt to IV endones because you're going to have to use multiple pills. besides, IV oxy is a bit of a let down if you're a seasoned user and leaves a lot left to be desired. it provides a short-lived rush and an even shorter high.
 
Your story angers me man.. It sucks what happened to you. It also sucks that the doctor you are currently seeing doesn't have enough sympathy to give you something sufficent for your pain.

It seems alot of doctors these days are hesistant in prescribing pain killers due to the high addiction rate. However not giving someone something addictive who actually NEEDS it is pathetic, im sure they would be taking something stronger for themselves if it was them who got stabbed.

I have had chronic back pain for quite some time now, and have never been able to get anything usefull in relieving the pain through legal methods. I can however get oxy's and other pain meds which actually relieve me and are actually use for pain treatment and the sad thing about it is that some of those sources don't even need them and get them prescribed and they are the ones who are abusing the system yet manage to get them, and i someone who needs them cannot. After reading about you getting stabbed and only 2 weeks after this happening can't even get oxy 20's let alone 40's?

Endone is the same as oxycontin allthough endone is all at once while oxycontin is over a 12hour period time released. Crushing up an oxy 40 and snorting that would give you relief. But from being on fenatyl and morphine for 2 weeks straight will build a tolerance up quite high in a short amount of time as you were requiring it 24/7. Panadeine forte is usefull for the smallest of pains. Having been prescribed that after what you have been on would do absolutely nothing, endones are alot stronger then panadeine forte but still only 5mg's at a time as they are fast relief, which anyone could get of oxy's by snorting or iv'ing.

If your pain is still unbearable i suggest scouting a few different doctors out. Explain what has happened to you and try find a doctor who is willing to help. Bring in information explaining what you have been on while in hospital etc so they are aware your not using them for pain med abuse. You should have a good chance of getting somethign even atleast abit stronger through another doctor.

GL with your recovery 2 man, sux what the world seems to be coming to. Can't even walk around the city safely.. and guys punching girls? fuckn weak...
 
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