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Severe panic attack on 2cb- what the heck happened?

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jess046

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First up, a bit of background on me. I'm regular drug user and every month or every two months or so use a psychedelic drug. Mostly acid, as it's the easiest and cheapest to obtain and you know exactly what you're getting.

However, I decided to try 2cb. I purchased a bag of powder- which was told to be about 30mg. I was waiting for the right moment to try the drug, but decided to dabble a bit with small doses, a line here or there, to see if it would mimic the effects of mdma, as reported by other users. These doses were pretty disappointing, with nothing but a feeling of being a bit 'off' and uncomfortable, as often happens when taking a psychedelic drug. No trip to speak of or visuals or feelings of euphoria or extra energy.

So I was pretty peeved. Decided one night to take the whole bag- which is what my dealer/friend told me would be a 'good, strong trip.' I am young, pretty underweight and female, whilst he is over 6 foot and male. Silly me did not take this into consideration when planning my dose.

But I figured- hey, I've already done like three or four lines, so it must be down to about 20mg....And I'm pretty sure I lost a little bit of the bag, as I nearly vomited when I swallowed the powder.

To this day I still don't know how much I took. But boy did it fuck me up big time.

It started off pretty good. I felt okay, pretty relaxed as my vision sharpened and my body started to feel nice and light.

Then, it all went to shit. Eye wobbles were intense and crazy- could barely see anything. I was pretty much blind for about 2 hours. About an hour into the trip I also went completely silent, according to my friends. I was trapped in my own little world, although didn't feel particularly uneasy. There were no negative thoughts in my head. I was sort of ready to go with the flow. Waiting for the eye wobbles to subside, when I thought everything would be ok.

It wasn't and the eye wobbles continued. Then, everything turned into some bright cartoon. I can barely remember what happened, except for the cartoon visuals and me walking to a bar with my friends. Somehow, I actually got in. I sat on a couch with my friend, completely zonked out. I don't even remember what I was thinking about, all I know was that I couldn't speak very much. But it wasn't like a 'bad' acid trip where you start to feel shit about stuff in your life. Nothing like that, I just felt very uncomfortable from the intense body load.

I gave up and agreed to go home. I wanted to try and stick it out, but everybody was really worried for me. I tried to walk, but could barely stand. In the car on the way home, I freaked out and nearly jumped out of the taxi when I thought my friends were going to take me to the hospital (I have a phobia for hospitals). When we got home I sat on the couch, completely fucked up. My head was swimming, my hands were shaking so hard and my heart was beating like a jack-hammer. I tried to drink water but could only handle a few sips. I sat down with the others and waited for everything to return to normal. It took me a little bit to be able to communicate, but I slowly calmed down. The visuals had subsided a lot and was reduced to things like moving patterns and facial distortions. When I looked at myself in the mirror I was a complete and utter mess. Hair drenched with sweat and I couldn't get rid of this ridiculous, exaggerated, 'sad' face.

I tried to go to sleep after taking a bit of xanax, but was just seeing closed-eye visuals. Eventually I managed to fall asleep.

When I woke up in the morning I was a complete zombie. Felt extremely depersonalised and didn't know what to do. Was very, very tired and lethargic. I was scared, but I don't know what of. Into that night I continued to see residual visuals. Colourful patterns on my ceiling. Closed eye visuals. Those didn't subside until about two days later, although they reduced in frequency. I was scared I would never feel normal again- I was scared of everything. The next weekend I went out with my boyfriend and friends, but felt like an alien. Like I couldn't communicate properly. And I found it difficult to enjoy anything. I just wanted to go home, which is very unlike me as a party animal and social butterfly of sorts. This continued for several nights and the next week I felt worse. The next weekend was much the same, until finally on the Sunday when I went to a music festival and was able to take speed without freaking out, I finally had some fun and felt like the old me.

I'm ok now, I think. Something still feels off. I still find it difficult to enjoy the things that used to make me happy. I can use drugs again without any big problems, but haven't tried any psychedelics. I really want to as I love psychedelics, and my main purpose of drug use is mind expansion. But I'm scared of having another panic attack. Even on other drugs, like mdma, speed and meth, I experience a lot of anxiety on the come-up. I never used to. Now I have to do 'baby' starter doses, before I feel comfortable taking my full dose. I feel this is related to my trauma from 2cb and want to fix the damage.

Can anybody relate to me or give me advice on how to come terms with what happened? Can anybody shed some light on why my experience was so terrifying? I was under the impression 2cb was a very gentle psychedelic, but this was horrific.
 
When you snort it, the potency is roughly doubled. Let's say your estimation was correct and you railed 20mg... That is a massive dose. 20-30mg is a hefty dose just consuming it orally. You took too much, that's all.
 
You snorted an eyeballed dose of a potent psychedelic drug. Not much more to add really. Even the most experienced user can be caught off guard if they don't know their dose and properly respect the drug.

Let this be a lesson to those reading - never measure drugs by eye. It's pointless and dangerous.
 
I've had panic attacks on 2c-b. I think all psychedelics have the ability to take you to a dark place if that's your frame of mind.
 
jess046 said:
But I figured- hey, I've already done like three or four lines, so it must be down to about 20mg....And I'm pretty sure I lost a little bit of the bag, as I nearly vomited when I swallowed the powder.
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I think she took what was left Orally, rather than snorting it.... Still I bet it was a rather large dose, especially one to attempt to eyeball, the 2C-X's potency curves can get really steep over 20mg.... Always get a 0.000 scale for 2C's. They aren't that expensive online, and worth every penny!
 
Yeah, I ate the bag, which was why I nearly vomited! Worst-tasting drug ever.

I guess I'd figured that originally, I was supposed to eat the whole bag. My lesson learnt is to work my way up to the right dose instead of bombing the whole thing. I still wish I could get more comfortable bombing on mdma, again, though. The anxiety I experience during any come-up of any drug, is also really annoying.
 
I think the lesson here is to use scales. You can work your way up all you want but if your eye is off, you're screwed.
 
I don't know about your typical use of language but if you're even calling the container a 'bag' then it does sound to me like there was actually quite a lot more of the drug there than you thought. Seems like any baggie of any size would look virtually empty with 30 mg in it.

Seems most probable to assume you took too much but since you didn't weigh we can only speculate, and we try to minimize that here. Please get a scale next time, they are very important (otherwise borrow someone else's). :)
 
2c-b is one of my favorite drugs of all time. I would put it in my top 3 psychedelics. I've used it on probably 40 separate occasions, but I'd never tried snorting it until about a month ago.

My usual dose at this point is around 30mg orally to really get into a trippy headspace, so back then, I decided to try sniffing 20mg, in hopes that it would be on that level. I was not ready. People talk about the physical pain in your nostrils and sinuses from snorting 2c-b; I felt that. It was like snorting sriracha sauce. But that wasn't what made it so difficult. Within 2 minutes I was completely overwhelmed. My head felt like it was going to burst. It was a discomfort like no other. The only way I could think to describe it was psychic pain, something I think I've read about in fantasy and sci-fi novels but never experienced. The reason I describe it that way is because it was different than any pain I'd ever felt before. Not stinging, not aching, not burning, but something almost indescribable. I believe it was a product of both the unpleasantness of nasal administration, combined with the fact that I was not ready for such a rapid and intense come up. I spent about a half hour retching in the bathroom and then another hour in my bed, curled up into a ball and trying to talk myself down. Eventually it worked and I ended up having a pleasant 4 or so hours on the drug, but in the end, it wasn't worth it.

As much as 2c-b is lauded as an easier psychedelic than LSD or mushrooms, the potential for a bad trip is still there. 30mg snorted is a very large dose. In my opinion, a very experienced tripper could turn that into a positive trip, but if you've never tried 2c-b before, or don't have too much experience with psychedelics of that nature, I could easily see the come up experience resulting in a bad trip and serious panic attacks.
 
it was in a tiny snap-lack bag. My dealer sold me 30mg, so my dose must have been around 20-25, as I'd already consumed a few lines a few weeks earlier and I didn't eat all the contents because the taste was too much for me too handle. It looked like quite a lot though, which was why I was reluctant to snort. In fact, I think he may have gotten the contents wrong. I asked for 5 serves (I thought he was going to sell me pills) of 5mg pills. He gave me the powder instead, claiming the pills had not been pressed yet. But I recently bought a few more pills, which turned out to be 7mg each. So maybe he sold me 5x7mg?
 
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