Severe drug-induced brain damage does not permit me to fall asleep, now I want to die

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Severe drug-induced brain damage does not permit me to sleep;need to suicide

TLDR. Im a loner whose first 18 years of life consisted of severe physical and mental abuse from my parents and my peer group. When my very first friend and very first girlfriend dumped me, I had nothing to live for and had a total nervous breakdown, and stayed suicidal from ages 15-23. I stopped being able to sleep. I became a cocaine addict, and started taking sleeping pills. initially I only had a problem with the cociane, and took the sleeping pills responsibly. I cleaned myself up after finding true love an amazing woman, and entered graduate school, while continuing to use sleeping pills responsibly. after my dreams of becoming an electrical engineer shattered, i started abusing the sleeping pills i legitimately needed, trying to sleep my life away. Now I have horrific tolerances to ALL cns depressant drugs, and not even a 180mg clonazepam is guaranteed to knock me out. Now that I finally want my life, it's too late because my brain is so damaged I can't have any reasonable quality of life. I'm 28, and for the first time since I was 23 I want to kill myself. How ironic, sad, and pathetic.


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I am a 28 year old male who was severely physically and mentally abused by his parents & his peer group, as well as completely friendless. i started smoking pot at age 11 and it was my medicine. at 15 i made my first friend and first love; for once i had something to live for, and we were together for 3 years. when she dumped me for another guy, i became suicidal and had a complete and utter nervous breakdown. i had no friends, no family, no job, no hobbies, and no life, she was my all. for months she played cruel games with me, telling me to meet her at strange places at 4 in the morning to get back together again, which idiot me did for months, but of course would never show up. i trained myself to stay awake for this piece of shit, and i stopped being able to sleep completely. pot no longer helped, within a few months i began to abuse hard drugs alone in my bedroom.

after about half a year i caved saw a psychichiatrist who prescribed me 6mg lunesta and 1mg clonazepam for severe chronic insomnia. these were the only drugs i did not abuse, and stayed on them for over half a decade without abusing them. even still, as a result, i suffered from insomnia, and remained suicidal from ages 15-23 over that piece of shit (if she would have asked me to kill myself would have done it in a heartbeat). i continued to have zero friends; the only people i knew were drug dealers. at i met a new girl,unbelievably i fell in love again, something i never thought possible. for once i wanted to live! she treated me with caring, love, and compassion. however, by this time i had become a serious drug addict, mainly to cocaine, but i got sober, for my new girl and for me, and stayed sober for a year.

That year was a glorious year in my life. I was 24 i was in school and in love and saw a bright future. The thought of suicide, with me nonstop from ages 17-23, was lifted. Full of confidence, i was admitted to graduate school to become an electrical engineer. I wasn't good enough and flunked out, and my confidence deflated and i sank deep into depression. Then i made the biggest mistake of my life - severely depressed (though not suicidal), i started abusing my sleeping pills that i legitimately needed, because i wanted to sleep my life away. then they stopped working, so i started buying more and more sleeping pills off the street. i rationalized, that since i was not abusing cocaine,that what i was doing wasnt that harmful. 3 years later, 180mg clonazepam won't necessarily even knock me out anymore. Last month, the last sleep aid that worked at all became ineffective, and ive become suicidal again, for the first time in 4 years. It's a sad irony that i realized that even though i now want my life, my brain is now too damaged to to function properly, so I do not have much of a choice.

Please everyone, take care of your brains. I can't believe I did this to myself, I don't even enjoy GABaergic drugs, i just wanted to sleep and stop thinking about being a failure.

Reading over this i can't believe how pathetic it is. and no, there isn't anything out there that can knock me out, i know all the cns depressant out there and an extremely tolerant to all of them, see this thread for details. i can no longer smoke my weed because it gives me extreme panic attacks. thank you for listening. theres no future for me.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...aergics-sleep-aids-thinking-of-killing-myself
 
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Have you spoken to psych doc or neurologist about this stuff. I was in a Psych hospital once and they gave this old man who ruined his brain from alcohol abuse chloral hydrate. That stuff would knock him on his ass.
Try to think positive. I find help for whatever I need. Sometimes it takes time to research and find answers. You have to arm yourself with knowledge, and talk to more doctors, till you find the correct one.
 
Please explain how u can take 180 mg of klonopin? You are only 28 you can recover. Is there anybody on this board older than 35?
 
Is there anybody on this board older than 35?
Yes, I'm 51 and feel like I have fifty million miles on my brain. There are a couple of us still around.

Tom, you have to find a way to get off these pills. I read your other thread too but many drugs were mentioned. I'm not clear on exactly what you are taking right now? The methadone is especially concerning if you're using with sleeping pills and clonazepam. Insomnia can be maddening, believe me I've suffered from it for years.
I know you're reluctant to tell your doctor everything but to truly get well, you really should. So what if they cut you off your meds, they are not helping you anyway.

Medications can only do so much as you've seen, and now you're in this situation that seems hopeless. I don't think you really want to kill yourself, really more like you don't want to live like this anymore. It's not too late for you but it's going to take some time and hard work to get sober.
 
Damn dude I'm sry to hear all that shit man. Sleeping pills didn't really work for me either til they gave me temazepam, 1/2 hr and it's a wrap for 8hrs. Dude there's really really strong sleeping meds out there that drs are hesitant about giving out but they do exist. U need to say fuck everyone and do u! Being alone sucks but I actually prefer it, it took time but I found a little daily routine that brings me some comfort, maybe that would work 4 u. I'm a miserable pathetic drug addled loser too but fuck it dude, that's what gets me through without wishing for death. No friends no fam fuck it and fuck them too lol. Find a way to make life bearable bro, u can do it but u gotta be creative and not giv a a fuck what people think, peeps aren't showing u love anyways so fuck em! Good luck and god bless my friend...
 
Well the best I can say is think positive like seriously you will drive yourself deeper otherwise and also see every single doctor you can about this before you lose your girl since well that would be awful and I can imagine you would suicide after that you may also want to consider numbing some of your emotions (not the way i suggested in another thread except for the meditation and intense workouts and martial arts) see a hypnotist about it and it may help keep living friend you haven't done anything awful (like murder) (assuming anyway) try getting into a mind state of doing at least 10 nice things a day I know it sounds like more work you don't deserve and I bet you don't but trust me that people start liking you more well I hope that helped and I hope you get better my friend message me if you need to talk I'm always available and if you would like I may be abled to be an internet friend i hope you get better!

-Streetcow
 
Yes, I'm 51 and feel like I have fifty million miles on my brain. There are a couple of us still around.

Tom, you have to find a way to get off these pills. I read your other thread too but many drugs were mentioned. I'm not clear on exactly what you are taking right now? The methadone is especially concerning if you're using with sleeping pills and clonazepam. Insomnia can be maddening, believe me I've suffered from it for years.
I know you're reluctant to tell your doctor everything but to truly get well, you really should. So what if they cut you off your meds, they are not helping you anyway.

Medications can only do so much as you've seen, and now you're in this situation that seems hopeless. I don't think you really want to kill yourself, really more like you don't want to live like this anymore. It's not too late for you but it's going to take some time and hard work to get sober.

This!
 
You're going to have to be honest with your psychiatrist & do what they advise, it's often best to do a long slow taper with sedatives to avoid dangerous withdrawal symptoms. You've still got most of your life ahead of you, you can get off the pills & recover. You can rebuild your body, mind, social relationships & still have a good life, it might be hard at first, but people have recovered from worse.
 
Man that's F'd up. I'm 34 and have been living with brain cancer (thank god I'm in remission now) and epilepsy since I was 17 years old. At 17 I literally thought I was going to die. A neurosurgeon drilled my head open, cut out the tumor, and I had to relearn how to do math, read clocks, and hand-eye coordination. My cheerleader girlfriend (first one I ever had) dumped my ass because she didn't know how to tell her friends her boyfriend had brain cancer - it destroyed me. I haven't had any "real" relationship since. Sure I've had several girlfriends, but none of them ever work out - I can't relate, I hate all the stupid drama. Anyway, I realize all these people are telling you to "listen to the doctors" but honestly man, from my personal experience, listen to yourself. You sit there saying how your brain is completely destroyed but yet you can find these forums and tell us all what's going on with no problems. I mean come on dude... really? It's all in your head. You gotta figure out how to stop living in the past and live in today - its the only thing that will work. The past is gone bro, you can't change it; but the future didn't happen yet did it? It took me YEARS to figure that out on my own. Nobody ever helped me out with anything. If I can do it, you sure as hell can.
 
So. Here's the good thing AND the bad thing. You can't sleep because being on benzos for so long made your sleep fucked up. That's bad because you are miserable and the drugs you sought to solve your sleep issues are now exacerbating them. But that's also good because now it's time to get off the benzos so you can sleep again.

I was on klonopin for ten years and I sleep better now than I ever have. Benzos are a short term solution, that are unfortunately prescribed as a long term solution. So you need to start a taper, like, now.

It's gonna get worse before it gets better but please realize that your brain isn't damaged! It's just the drugs! Take the drugs away slowly, and your brain is totally gonna return to normal. Stay on the benzos forever and you run the chance of early onset dementia and a whole bunch of other crap. You aren't flawed! The brain has an amazing ability to heal itself, you just have to give it a chance.

I wish you luck! I've been there, although I can't believe 180 mg of k-pins wouldn't knock you out, much less kill you. Though I've heard of weirder things. You can probably cut WAY down on the kpins before feeling serious withdrawal - they are really long lasting and usually the hard shit doesn't start until the final part of the taper. At least ime.
 
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