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Help! Severe Depression / Anxiety + Daily SI After Psilocybin Mushrooms (Need Advice)

Bluname

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Boundary / request: Please don’t invalidate my experience or turn this into a debate about mushrooms. I know psilocybin helps some people—good for you. In my case, it didn’t. After these experiences, my mental health worsened dramatically and stayed that way. I’m not looking for comments like “you did it wrong,” “it’s your fault,” or “it was just underlying issues.” Maybe I had underlying vulnerabilities—fine—but mushrooms were the trigger that flipped everything for me. If your response is to blame me or defend psychedelics, please skip commenting.

In August 2023, I decided to stop my medication on my own. For about two years, I had been taking venlafaxine 225 mg and mirtazapine for mild/low depression, and I was doing pretty well: functional, emotionally stable, and my depression felt controlled. But I didn’t want to depend on pills long-term. My family was also pressuring me to stop, and I ended up discontinuing without proper medical guidance.

At first, I experienced a rebound effect. I felt worse for a few days, but then I improved. Since my initial depression had been mild, I assumed I might be okay without medication.

Shortly after stopping medication, in mid-2023, I decided to try psilocybin mushrooms after reading they might help depression.

First trip (5g, accompanied by a “guide”):
It went well. I felt improvement afterward. For several months, I didn’t have depressive symptoms. Looking back, I’m not sure whether that improvement was truly due to mushrooms or simply because my baseline depression was mild and I had stabilized after stopping meds.

In October 2023, after a night out where I got drunk, I woke up the next day feeling emotionally awful. Depression and anxiety returned hard. I don’t know whether I was already destabilized and the alcohol triggered it, or whether it would have happened anyway.

Because my first mushroom experience had been positive, I decided to do a second trip.

Second trip (November 2023, alone):
This was a negative experience. I got trapped in an extreme anxiety state—like prolonged “fight or flight.” I couldn’t sleep or eat, spent all day paralyzed in bed, and lost a lot of weight. My parents were very worried. This was also when I began experiencing strong suicidal ideation.

In December 2023, I did a third trip with a very high dose (~6g) with the same guide from the first time. I later learned that this was beyond a “heroic dose.” The experience was traumatic. I felt extreme anxiety and despair—to the point that during the trip I wanted to die. Fortunately, the acute effects wore off and the next day I was no longer trapped in the same “survival mode” state, but I was left with severe depression and anxiety afterward.

2024: major deterioration and functional collapse

From that point on, my mental health deteriorated significantly. I spent the first half of 2024 almost entirely in bed, unable to function. I tried multiple medications. At first, I avoided going back to venlafaxine because I learned it raised my blood pressure the first time using it, and I was worried about that risk.

  • Sertraline (Jan 2024 – Mar 2024): partial response, but I stopped because it caused bruising.
  • Vilazodone (Mar 2024 – Aug 2024): little to no benefit.
By August 2024, I tried desvenlafaxine:

  • It helped somewhat—I felt more functional—but it suppressed my appetite and I kept losing weight, so I stopped it.
Then in September 2024, I decided to return to venlafaxine, despite the blood pressure concern:

  • Venlafaxine (Sep 2024 – now; dose has ranged 150–225 mg, currently 150 mg): good response overall, but I still struggle with high anxiety.
Around this time I also took quetiapine 100 mg at night mainly to sleep:

  • It helped sleep, but I started noticing suicidal thoughts upon waking, excessive drowsiness, and lack of energy. I eventually discontinued it.
Throughout 2024, I battled depression with near-daily suicidal thoughts. I felt exhausted and had very poor quality of life.

2025

In January 2025, about a year after the bad mushroom trip, I tried Spravato (esketamine) because it was presented as a treatment for resistant depression. It didn’t help. In fact, during some sessions it seemed to worsen my suicidal ideation, so I stopped.

I also tried going back to mirtazapine for sleep/anxiety, but this time I experienced intense side effects: hot flashes, fullness, and significant weight gain. In retrospect, I think this may have also contributed to weight gain during the two years I took it previously (I didn’t recognize it at the time).

In February/March 2025, I started TMS (Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation). I also added bupropion, titrating up to 300 mg.

After finishing TMS (March–April 2025), I felt something I hadn’t felt in a long time: relief. I wasn’t depressed and I could imagine a future. But the benefit only lasted about 4 weeks, and then I fell back into the same pattern.

Later I realized bupropion was giving me a paradoxical effect—making me sleepy and contributing to weight gain—so it was eventually stopped.

I then added Abilify (2 mg). It reduced suicidal thoughts significantly, but I felt emotionally flat, with low motivation, and I gained weight. When I tried stopping Abilify, I experienced withdrawal that triggered a major increase in suicidal ideation and depression. I reinstated it and then tapered more slowly. During that process, I added Lamictal, which I’m still on.

Current situation and fears

I worry the mushrooms altered my brain/neurotransmitters, and I can’t tolerate things I used to tolerate. For example, caffeine and pre-workout supplements now trigger significant anxiety, which never happened before.

  • Ongoing suicidal ideation daily (Mild - Moderate)
  • Generalized anxiety, fear, and a sense of dread/hopelessness
  • Fatigue and low energy
  • Difficulty studying and focusing
  • Low motivation and reduced pleasure
  • Feeling like I do everything out of obligation, not enjoyment
I’ve tried many non-medication approaches too—exercise, meditation, therapy, mindfulness, reiki, affirmations, psychiatric follow-up—and I still feel trapped. I think every day about how much I wish I could go back in time and never have done mushrooms. Two years later, I feel like I’m surviving, not living. I’m scared I could end my life any day.

I feel that psychiatrists in South Florida (Miami) have failed me by just throwing a bunch of medications at me without really paying attention to the underlying issue. I am worried and fearful every day that it might be my last day, since I feel like taking my life daily. It feels more like a desire to escape the pain rather than wanting to die. I have a beautiful family and a girlfriend, and I don’t want to leave them or do that to them, but I am exhausted from feeling like this. Any advice would help.

Additional context: I was recently diagnosed with OCPD and CPTSD from childhood trauma. I don’t know how much that contributed, but I’m including it because it may be relevant. If anyone has practical guidance or suggestions, I’m open to hearing them.

Clean medication/treatment list (as I understand it)

  • Stopped baseline meds (venlafaxine 225 + mirtazapine) — Aug 2023 (self-discontinued)
  • Sertraline — Jan 2024 to Mar 2024 | partial response; stopped due to bruising
  • Vilazodone — Mar 2024 to Aug 2024 | little/no response
  • Desvenlafaxine — Aug 2024 to Sep 2024 | helped function; appetite suppression/weight loss
  • Venlafaxine 150–225 (currently 150) — Sep 2024 to now | good response; anxiety persists
  • Quetiapine 100 mg (night) — Sep 2024 to Jan 2025 | sleep help but morning SI/drowsiness/low energy
  • Spravato (esketamine) — Jan 2025 | worsened SI in sessions; stopped
  • TMS — Mar 2025 to Apr 2025 | strong improvement ~4 weeks
  • Bupropion up to 300 mg — Mar 2025 to Sep 2025 | paradoxical sleepiness + weight gain
  • Abilify 2 mg — Apr 2025 to Oct 2025 | reduced SI but flat, low motivation, weight gain; withdrawal worsened SI
  • Lamictal 100 mg — Nov 2025 to now
  • Lexapro 5 mg — just started (trying switch from venlafaxine due to anxiety)
Sorry for long post thank you all!
 
I'm very sorry that you have suffered so much. People have idiosyncratic reactions to drugs very frequently, and when it happens the consequences can be disastrous for the affected person, not just because the symptoms can be severe but because such reactions are often poorly understood or not understood at all by contemporary medical practice. When you are sick but improperly diagnosed, almost all treatments are either ineffective or worsen the situation, especially in the long run. Indeed, you may not even understand yourself what is going on, and people around you may mistreat you because they don't understand what is wrong. I personally have first-hand experience and only in the last year (I'm in my mid-40s) have I come to realize that I've been suffering consequences of a idiosyncratic drug reaction that occurred from taking corticosteroids when I was only 13.

People have definitely suffered lasting problems including trauma after taking psychedelics, and I think psilocybin can be particularly unforgiving as far as psychedelics go. However, I also understand that most people who have intensely difficult experiences recover just fine, even if it takes a few weeks or months to integrate the experience. Your first trip is unusual in that you experienced very typical beneficial effects at first, and it was only months later that things seemed to go very wrong. I have never heard of this kind of delayed negative reaction to anyone after psychedelics alone. That doesn't mean it doesn't ever happen, but I believe it occurs rarely if ever.

I believe it's far more likely that your "crash" in October 2023 was caused by a delayed post-acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS) from abrupt cessation of your meds. This may sound far-fetched, given that you experienced acute withdrawal and its resolution, but in fact your story is very consistent with others who experienced exactly the same thing: a short-duration acute withdrawal followed some months later by a severe PAWS. Unfortunately, almost all contemporary medical practitioners has a terrible understanding of PAWS caused by psychiatric drugs. Psychiatrists routinely encourage patients to taper too abruptly, and when the PAWS emerges, they treat it as a re-emergence of the original condition and reinstate the drugs and/or prescribe new drugs to try to counter it, often leading drug and therapy histories that are just as convoluted as yours is.

I also want to point out that once you are in a PAWS for a serotonin drug, your body and brain are likely to be much more prone to extreme and/or idiosyncratic reactions to other things. Hence, your psilocybin sessions may have been heavily altered by your PAWS, and the sessions in turn may have worsened your PAWS.

I strongly recommend you visit the community at http://survivingantidepressants.org/. They provider a lot of important information about PAWS from psychiatric drugs and how to safely taper. As I visit the site now, I'm very sad to read that they've had to stop accepting new registrations and will be going "read-only" at the end of this month because of a shortage of help. That is very tragic because many people need support that they can't get from doctors, friends, or family members. Unfortunately this forum isn't really appropriate for this kind of discussion being that it specializes in recreational drugs, but if you're welcome to reach out to me in a private message and I'll help where I can.

Assuming you are dealing with PAWS, I definitely recommend against trying any psychedelic or other experimental treatment until you have withdrawn completely and are symptom free, which would probably take you some years to achieve. And even then you are much more likely to have idiosyncratic results, so start with very low doses (like 0.1g of mushrooms) to gauge your response and work your way up very slowly.
 
Psychedelics fucked me too DMT in particular.
I found some peace on opioids and benzodiazepines and after some time I quit opioids and only take my prescribed benzodiazepines as prescribed only 1-2 years later I still have my bad days but overall I’m fine.
Try go to the gym and commit in it try every session to be better and get busy with your diet and macros
 
5HT2A & 5HT2C agonists can cut off Dopamine from wider CNS activity. Then you get the dysphoria of areas expecting dopamine being forced serotonin or It limited by how active 5HT1A Is. It would explain ADHD & Bipolar's mood issues, Even Autistic meltdowns.
 
I guess you should learn to red signs on telephone poles in the sfbay area, and forget the multidisciplinary association of psychedelic studies. And, for get psychedelics altogether, perhaps or at least forgive them. Nobody is perfect
 
I guess you should learn to red signs on telephone poles in the sfbay area, and forget the multidisciplinary association of psychedelic studies. And, for get psychedelics altogether, perhaps or at least forgive them. Nobody is perfect
I have reddit but have no idea what you are talking about
 
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5HT2A & 5HT2C agonists can cut off Dopamine from wider CNS activity. Then you get the dysphoria of areas expecting dopamine being forced serotonin or It limited by how active 5HT1A Is. It would explain ADHD & Bipolar's mood issues, Even Autistic meltdowns.
Can you explain how that relates to my story? Thanks
 
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Can you explain how that relates to my story? Thanks

You issues could be from acetylcholine/dopamine being out of whack from both stopping your meds & then doing Shrooms which are very potent 5HT2 agonists without much side targets. Venlafaxine Is a SNDRI at high doses adding Mirtazapine might of made Venlafaxine's dopamine activity more potent from 5HT2 antagonism.

When on Reddit I got some blacklash doing Concerta with DXM because me quitting my ADHD meds made me wonder If I've got some hidden mild bipolar.
 
You issues could be from acetylcholine/dopamine being out of whack from both stopping your meds & then doing Shrooms which are very potent 5HT2 agonists without much side targets. Venlafaxine Is a SNDRI at high doses adding Mirtazapine might of made Venlafaxine's dopamine activity more potent from 5HT2 antagonism.

When on Reddit I got some blacklash doing Concerta with DXM because me quitting my ADHD meds made me wonder If I've got some hidden mild bipolar.
Okay I understand. Thank you for explaining. What is your recommendation or suggestion?
 
Okay I understand. Thank you for explaining. What is your recommendation or suggestion?

Either get checked for severe ADHD or Argue for TCA meds, Try Bendaryl/DPH at 100mg to see If you can handle the side effects or get sudden hypomania from being yanked out of Acute depression. Anything that has anticholinergic activity are potent antidepressents from forcing Dopamine to rebound hard.
 
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Either get checked for severe ADHD or Argue for TCA meds, Try Bendaryl/DPH at 100mg to see If you can handle the side effects or get sudden hypomania from being yanked out of Acute depression. Anything that has anticholinergic activity are potent antidepressents from forcing Dopamine to rebound hard.
Thanks
 
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