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Setting up an IV line?

Raillery

Raillery

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Not sure which section this thread should go in, so I put it in the section I thought was closest, but please move it if a better section is available.

Anyways, I'm wondering how to set up an IV line, like the ones in the hospital where you have one needle in you that's taped down (I think it usually looks kinda like a butterfly) and you take a needle-less syringe, and put it into the butterfly and inject it into the needle into your vein. I'm not talking about the thing with the iv bag that's hanging up, just the butterfly+needle-less syringe. Basically like this guide, except without all the extra stuff, just this:
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Also, does anyone know where I could purchase these supplies, preferably not online?

Any information is greatly appreciated, thank you!
 

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Or if anyone has another idea on how to pierce the vein once and deliver multiple doses without air bubbles, that would be helpful too.
 
There have been a number of threads asking about this - mainly in OD I think if you want to look them up. Consensus is that it would be a really bad idea due to the infection risk which is high. Too much maintenance involved to keep it safe and usable to make it any practical use for recreational drugs. Don't know of any other - but safer - similar techniques. If there were any I'm pretty sure they'd be widely used. Suspect the fact that they are not used at all (other than the occasional extreme case that usually goes horribly wrong) means that there really aren't any. Proper injection hygiene, good technique and rotating sites religiously is the best way to look after your veins as best as possible.
 
The main reason I wanted to do this is so if I OD on opiates I can have another syringe with stimulants prepared in it and it would be a lot easier/quicker to bring me back (for the person who's with me of course, not me).
 
Not too sure stimulants would be so great for that purpose either, to be honest. Naloxone or similar would be far better and guaranteed to work - even Suboxone or Subutex can reverse acute overdose symptoms apparently - certainly anecdotally. A full opiate blocker would be your best bet though - some drug workers even give addicts a shot of Narcan or whatever to carry with them for just that reason. Very much doubt a second shot of a stimulant would be a good idea - and what if there are no stimulants to hand at the time?
 
Surely an extra shot of stims would increase the danger by adding cardiotoxicity?
Narcan would be a much better choice, as Shambles already said.
 
Well I'm prescribed suboxone... I got narcan when I OD'd last year but they didn't give me any to take home haha.

That's why I said I'd already have a syringe with stimulants in it already prepared. Then my sitter wouldn't have to fumble around trying to get the vein, with jittery hands since they're panicking, which makes them even more shaky once they realize they're too jittery to get the vein lol.
 
Yeah, but you'd still have a bacteria paradise stuck in your vein 24/7 and they need to be changed and cleaned out properly very regularly so would be an immense pain in the arse just to have there on the offchance. If you have Suboxone then that should (anecdotally) do the job in a pinch and keep you alive long enough to get proper treatment. Whether or not you would be able to get hold of a Narcan shot for emergencies I don't know... I know many people who do just that though so must be possible. Really wouldn't recommend a stim for that purpose - it's not like people never OD on speedballs... ;)
 
I only planned on using it for a day. I haven't used (potent) opiates in almost a year and I just don't want to OD. Do you know where they go to get the narcan?

Also, isn't the reason they OD on speedballs because there's too much down and not enough up? So if I had a large shot of meth on hand it would most likely be enough to counteract a shot that wasn't even meant to be a speedball.

The other reason I wanted to try this is for repeated stim doses without multiple punctures, as I have to do myself up in inconspicuous places as authority figures know I used to IV.
 
Speedball ODs are usually caused by the stim masking the effect of the opiate - the stim only masks the OD effects but doesn't prevent or lessen them at all so I really can't see it working for an OD. Totally understand the desire for such a contraption for IV stim sessions but it just doesn't work like that - really is more of a problem than a solution unfortunately :\

Search for similar threads in OD and there are many people who had the same idea but once the problems and risks have been pointed out they tend to change their minds - there's no way of avoiding the difficulties of keeping up with IV stim sessions that I am aware of. If you can't get a vein anymore it's most likely time to be getting some sleep anyway :D

I presume people get Narcan on the black market or online but I only have a few of the pills left over from when I left rehab so have no direct experience of trying to find the stuff myself.
 
Can't recall precisely - others who know the details better explain a number of reasons why in other threads on this topic. I would suspect vasoconstriction would be a major problem - when your veins are going into hiding and your blood is like treacle an IV line probably wouldn't stay in the vein anyway. Blockages and infection would also be an issue, I'd think.
 
Hm I read in another thread that it worked great for this guy, but he could have been lying I guess..
 
I knew a fella (more than one actually) who walked out of hospital with IV lines still attached. He used them successfully for a few days shooting mostly heroin. Then he went down with a horrid infection that killed him. Some people certainly have done it with varying levels of success but is a very risky bizniz that's truly more of a problem than a solution. Sadly :\
 
Well yeah wearing it for more than a day is out of the question, but it seems pretty safe to keep it in for under a day as long as it's kept sterilized.
 
One of the reasons it doesn't work great for repeated injections (at least with coke) is that coke is a vasoconstrictor, so an IV line that was originally in the vein may be forced out by the shrinking vein and end up introducing your injection under the skin. May be less of a problem if you tap a big vein, but I'd assume the larger the vein, the larger the risk of infection.

Also, you're probably more likely to go overboard if you don't have to struggle to hit a vein - I know there's times I would have done another shot of coke if I could but just couldn't for the life of me hit the vein.

~CTdopeLove
 
I think this idea has crossed the minds of most people who IV drugs at least once. I knew someone who had one put in a the hospital and used it to shoot meth. Still laying in the hospital bed, LOL. He ended up leaving AMA, but somehow managed to knock the thing loose and couldn't get it back in right. Spent quite alot of time trying, too. One of those things that's better in theory than in practice, I think.
 
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