Hi,
Hope im in the corred forum. Little background of myself first. Been addicted to opiates for years, started off with hydro/oxy and eventually had to switch to heroin when it got to be too expensive (no suprise there). Ive been in a suboxone maintence program since May, but I am still sick every single day since then. Within an hour or two after I take a suboxone, im in w/ds again. Ive tried everything. Smaller doses, larger, more doses throughout the day, literally everything. Potentiation, ethanol solution, enzyme inhibitors. I was on 12mg a day (8mg morning, 4mg night) but after a few weeks was switched to 8mg twice daily.
I cannot do this anymore. Its not psychological, I really am sick literally every single day. Suboxone just isnt working for me. Tried zubsolv for the last month, if anything it was worse... Something really, really bad is going to happen if this doesnt get solved. I tried asking my doc to switch me over to subutex to see if that helps, he refuses and wont perscribe it for anybody.
So I went to the methadone clinic last week, which ive also tried to do in the past. And just like before, they told me that I needed to get COMPLETELY clean off suboxone first, without it in my urine at all. Its apparantly ok to have heroin, oxy, methadone in my urine, but not suboxone. My doc doesnt understand it either.. its not like going from methadone to suboxone where you have to worry about precipitated w/d... literally have no idea why they are doing this to me.
They also said that maybe my doc and the supervisor could talk and work out a better transition for me. My doctor isnt cooperating because he just doesnt care; he knows that once I leave there hes losing money, and I pay $25 each visit 2-3 times per week. He said he would send them my records and begin to taper me off suboxone, but my problem is that im ill every single day, making me even sicker but a shittload isnt going to help me....
What do I do here?? I cant go and use my DOC for a few weeks to get the suboxone out of my system. For one, I dont have the money for it. Two, I dont have any transportation at all to get it anymore, i dont have a car like I did when I was using, I live in a rural area, couldnt walk anywhere to get it if I tried. 3rd I have no connects anymore, and no way at all to get it.
So I have no idea what to do. I know that if I dont get on methadone that something bad is going to happen to me. Im sick daily, im severely depressed. My doc wont do anything but just stack on more meds that arent helping... Im on 16mg suboxone a day, 300mg wellbutrin XR, 3x 50mg hydroxyzine and 10mg ambien. I also need major oral surgery to get every single one of my teeth pulled, and I need surgery on my sinuses. My doc said I can stop taking suboxone for 24 hours and go on painkillers for the duration, which is NOT a good idea for me, another reason why I would like to get on methadone, since subs do nothing for me for pain. Its all around better for me. I know about the worse w/ds from it, and all the other horror stories. Im not looking for people to tell me dont do it, this is what I need to do for myself for my future.
How do I go about this?? What do I do here? Im enslaved to suboxone with this doctor, and I have no other options. All I want is help and none of these methadone clinics will help me with bupe in my urine, and my doc wont help me transition... im at a loss. I even tried going into multiple detox centers, none of which will take me since I only have buprenorphine in my urine and no heroin/oxy. I literally cannot get my hands on it if I tried even to fail a drug test for that or to use during the transition... I really need some advice here. I've stuck with the subs for 4 months to try and see if things changed, and im suffering on a daily basis. Please, if anybody has advice on how to properly do this and get on methadone in my situation. Also I cant be on nothing, ive tried it many times in the past and it doesnt work for me. I need to be on maitenance, and subs arent cutting it. Im not looking for a high, I just cant live with being sick every single day. Its not mental, my doc even agknowlades it. Sweats, chills, dialated pupils, muscle aches, nausea/vomiting, intensive cravings, depression, anxiety. I cant live like this and nobody should have to especially when their doing everything they can to seek professional help before relapse. I am NOT trying to get high, just well. Thanks any helpful input is GREATLY appreciated.
Hope im in the corred forum. Little background of myself first. Been addicted to opiates for years, started off with hydro/oxy and eventually had to switch to heroin when it got to be too expensive (no suprise there). Ive been in a suboxone maintence program since May, but I am still sick every single day since then. Within an hour or two after I take a suboxone, im in w/ds again. Ive tried everything. Smaller doses, larger, more doses throughout the day, literally everything. Potentiation, ethanol solution, enzyme inhibitors. I was on 12mg a day (8mg morning, 4mg night) but after a few weeks was switched to 8mg twice daily.
I cannot do this anymore. Its not psychological, I really am sick literally every single day. Suboxone just isnt working for me. Tried zubsolv for the last month, if anything it was worse... Something really, really bad is going to happen if this doesnt get solved. I tried asking my doc to switch me over to subutex to see if that helps, he refuses and wont perscribe it for anybody.
So I went to the methadone clinic last week, which ive also tried to do in the past. And just like before, they told me that I needed to get COMPLETELY clean off suboxone first, without it in my urine at all. Its apparantly ok to have heroin, oxy, methadone in my urine, but not suboxone. My doc doesnt understand it either.. its not like going from methadone to suboxone where you have to worry about precipitated w/d... literally have no idea why they are doing this to me.
They also said that maybe my doc and the supervisor could talk and work out a better transition for me. My doctor isnt cooperating because he just doesnt care; he knows that once I leave there hes losing money, and I pay $25 each visit 2-3 times per week. He said he would send them my records and begin to taper me off suboxone, but my problem is that im ill every single day, making me even sicker but a shittload isnt going to help me....
What do I do here?? I cant go and use my DOC for a few weeks to get the suboxone out of my system. For one, I dont have the money for it. Two, I dont have any transportation at all to get it anymore, i dont have a car like I did when I was using, I live in a rural area, couldnt walk anywhere to get it if I tried. 3rd I have no connects anymore, and no way at all to get it.
So I have no idea what to do. I know that if I dont get on methadone that something bad is going to happen to me. Im sick daily, im severely depressed. My doc wont do anything but just stack on more meds that arent helping... Im on 16mg suboxone a day, 300mg wellbutrin XR, 3x 50mg hydroxyzine and 10mg ambien. I also need major oral surgery to get every single one of my teeth pulled, and I need surgery on my sinuses. My doc said I can stop taking suboxone for 24 hours and go on painkillers for the duration, which is NOT a good idea for me, another reason why I would like to get on methadone, since subs do nothing for me for pain. Its all around better for me. I know about the worse w/ds from it, and all the other horror stories. Im not looking for people to tell me dont do it, this is what I need to do for myself for my future.
How do I go about this?? What do I do here? Im enslaved to suboxone with this doctor, and I have no other options. All I want is help and none of these methadone clinics will help me with bupe in my urine, and my doc wont help me transition... im at a loss. I even tried going into multiple detox centers, none of which will take me since I only have buprenorphine in my urine and no heroin/oxy. I literally cannot get my hands on it if I tried even to fail a drug test for that or to use during the transition... I really need some advice here. I've stuck with the subs for 4 months to try and see if things changed, and im suffering on a daily basis. Please, if anybody has advice on how to properly do this and get on methadone in my situation. Also I cant be on nothing, ive tried it many times in the past and it doesnt work for me. I need to be on maitenance, and subs arent cutting it. Im not looking for a high, I just cant live with being sick every single day. Its not mental, my doc even agknowlades it. Sweats, chills, dialated pupils, muscle aches, nausea/vomiting, intensive cravings, depression, anxiety. I cant live like this and nobody should have to especially when their doing everything they can to seek professional help before relapse. I am NOT trying to get high, just well. Thanks any helpful input is GREATLY appreciated.
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