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Seretonin(Spelling?) reuptake inhibitors With MDMA

Effexor is my favorite antidepressant medication that is currently available. I can understand people might feel blasted away by the medicine after the first few dosages but the body does adjust to it and then everything is back to normal again.

Just for the SAR portfolio, out of all the effexor analogues tested, the dichlorophenyl aromatic substitution pattern was the strongest. The dimethylamine alkaloid pattern is the only one that worked. Cyclohexanol is far and away the best ring size.

Dichlorophenyl was roughly 1:1 Sert:Net. As we have already noted in other posts, the most potent inhibitors dont automatically imply that they are in fact most suitable one. In the case of Effexor, 4-bromophenyl was the most preferable ring substitution pattern. This one had a ratio of SERT:NET 2:1

The beta-adrenergic stimulation from effexor was shown to drop of with repeated dosage regimen (ie. the biometabolism adapts to it).
 
Smyth, you listed some Sert:Net ratios for Effexor and it's analogues. I'm wondering if (where ever you found those) you could also find the ratio for Cymbalta. It's supposedly an equipotent inhibitor of 5-HT and NA...and this is touted by some psychiatrists as it's main advantage over Effexor.
 
I knew this was coming, so last night I uploaded an image just to answer questions like this, and the gallery mods have gotten to it

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Unfortunately, duloxetine isn't on there, so, I found this paper which states "Duloxetine inhibited binding to the human NE and 5-HT transporters with K(i) values of 7.5 and 0.8 nM, respectively, and with a K(i) ratio of 9" i.e. Cymbalta has an affinity for the serotonin transporter 9 times higher than the noradrenaline transporter. Which makes it less selective for serotonin than Effexor (venlafaxine), which is about 40 times more selective for the serotonin transporter.

From: MOLECULAR AND CELLULAR MECHANISMS OF ANTIDEPRESSANT DRUGS
OWENS, MJ
DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY 4:153–159 (1996/1997)
 
I took 75 mg of 5-htp on 300 mg of effexor (which i, btw, also love as an anti-depressant - just wish i could still roll) - and didn't experience any negative side efffects
 
In my experiences on taking MDMA while being prescribed to various of SSRIs- they all soften up the effects of MDMA on my body.
 
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