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Seratoni - 45mg - Not what I expected

shadybeep

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Today after work on an empty stomach I poured 45mg of seratoni ont a little bowl, and attempted to snort it. After several minues of absolute agony I put it in a gel cap and went to the shops.

Its pretty hot here today, but by the time of the walk back (probably due to the snorted amout) I could feel a definite change coming on. Seratonic drugs tend to fuck with my (everyones?) temperature control, and I was really warm by the time i got homel This was the only real come up sign I saw, forgot to check my pupils. i then embarked on the most sociable facebook epic I've ever attempted, annoyed my house mate with constant chatting, and can't not think how wonderful this would be in a club circumstance. Stimulation appears to last 5 hours plus.

I didn't really expect this stuff to be more than just a mildly euphoric stimulant, but i think the closest comparison I could give is that its a more empathic 4-fa (and i LOVE 4--fa)
 
Oy vey, brand-name 'benzo-fury' style nonsense. Whoever named this shit 'serotoni' was an outright fool, since search engines are obstinate in replacing the term with 'serotonin'. Why make your product hard to locate because of a stupid attempt at pretending you have marketing skills? Yeesh.

Anyway that's no comment for or against the drug itself, just the retarded branding. I had no idea what the fuck I was reading about, so some searching cleared that up, and in the interest of keeping others from getting as confused as I was, the name of this compound is 4-5-dihydro-4-methyl-5-(4-methylphenyl)-2-Oxazolamine. There's a thread on the stuff here on Bluelight, and as for an easier name for reference purposes Ebola? suggested 4',4-dimethyl-aminorex / 4,4-dm-amr.

Anyway thanks for the report dude, always good to get the word out when there's a new, sketchy, shite name brand thing being vended upon the unprepared masses of the Internet. That's what Bluelight is for after all, disseminating ACCURATE information, and accurate info is always at a premium when there's something new and potentially harmful (see the linked thread) out on the market, since the majority of people want somebody else to go first and often a lot of initial reports on the online RC scene are shilling for the vendors in question.
 
The debate on how stupid the name is has actually made me remember it, and I suck at remembering at these number/letter drugs.

4-5-dihydro-4-methyl-5-(4-methylphenyl)-2-Oxazolamine.

That's awesome lol.
 
Tried 40mg again the day after, still surprisingly nice, but probably a 50% reduction in intensity due to tolerance and less taken. Note in that previous report I had done 400ishmg of 5-MAPB and 30mg of serotoni the day before, so people not stupidly destroying their brain for no reason would potentially get a much more powerful effect. Given I did 45mg and those pellets going round were/are supposed to be 60mg, they'd almost certainly be verging on excessive for someone with low tolerance for that sort of thing. Having said that, the come up is much milder and amphetaminey than the typical seratonin-splooshing drugs. (Yeah, I know they're mostly all amphetamines too, but you know what I mean!)

Some more details: Looks a LOT like MDAI, very shiny white clumpy material, but it absolutely isnt that (these doses of MDAI would be scarely noticable to me I think ruling it out completely).
Incredibly painful to snort, I won't be trying that again.
Extremely long lasting, 7+ hours of noticable sleep-disabling stimulation, and I also felt quite buzzy at work (not euphoric at all, just residual stimulation).

I actually woke up real early today, thought it'd be a lovely day so I should go to work early and leave earlier to enjoy the sun. I often get a similar level of residual stimulation from 4-fa, so I planned to take advantage of it. Next thing I realised it was 6 hours later and I was very, very late. Even in the afternoon I was definitely aware of it. Then I did some MDPV so I can't comment on how long it actually lasts.

Finally, whilst I did do it two days in a row, don't imply from this that it's particularly moreish. It still might be, but it was also the only thing I had in the house and I was bored. There was no real compulsion there. All it's really made me want to do is revisit 5-IT some time to compare :)
 
I wonder how bad the psychosis from 4,4-DM-AMR will be. It's definitely the case that the nature and severity of the psychosis that develops after the sort of many-day marathon binge sessions that those of us partial to stimulants (not me, not anymore) unfortunately often engage in. MDPV is an example of a compound that seems in my experience to produce a worse psychosis than amphetamine or methamphetamine does. More paranoia, more anxiety, more fiending, more shadow people.

You mention that this stuff isn't that more-ish, so that's where this line of inquiry stems from. Hopefully in accordance with the lesser compulsion to redose there will be a smaller probability of getting to the psychosis stage at all, and also ideally the psychosis will be itself on the more tame side of things. Then again, who knows: sometimes what may be a seemingly begging drug that isn't too bad with redose compulsion turns out to be a totally fiend-inducing nightmare if a certain amount of redosing is done anyway. Cocaine is a nice example of this. When I was first using come it was really easy to leave some and put it away for another time as long as I had only done a few lines, like >10 perhaps. But past that point the negative effects ramped up in a frighteningly nonlinear manner.
 
I wonder how bad the psychosis from 4,4-DM-AMR will be. It's definitely the case that the nature and severity of the psychosis that develops after the sort of many-day marathon binge sessions that those of us partial to stimulants (not me, not anymore) unfortunately often engage in. MDPV is an example of a compound that seems in my experience to produce a worse psychosis than amphetamine or methamphetamine does. More paranoia, more anxiety, more fiending, more shadow people.

You mention that this stuff isn't that more-ish, so that's where this line of inquiry stems from. Hopefully in accordance with the lesser compulsion to redose there will be a smaller probability of getting to the psychosis stage at all, and also ideally the psychosis will be itself on the more tame side of things. Then again, who knows: sometimes what may be a seemingly begging drug that isn't too bad with redose compulsion turns out to be a totally fiend-inducing nightmare if a certain amount of redosing is done anyway. Cocaine is a nice example of this. When I was first using come it was really easy to leave some and put it away for another time as long as I had only done a few lines, like >10 perhaps. But past that point the negative effects ramped up in a frighteningly nonlinear manner.

first time me and a friend did mephedrone way back in 2008 we had a line each and it was nice but we just chilled and it wore off. didn't even seem that great, but next time it was a bit more morish, and that just got worse and worse over time
 
this stuff is shit and dangerous that sober feeling you get in the brain is the start of serotonin syndrome and i got it very low levels best to saty clear of it full stop mdma is easy enough to get
 
I don't know why I had thought at one point that this was rti-336

-Bpayne
 
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