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September 11th, International Enough Day

BeF

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International Enough Day
"September 11: Enough Day
Dubya, acting upon a joint resolution of Congress, has declared September 11 to be Patriot Day. According to his proclamation, we're supposed to "...observe this day with appropriate ceremonies and activities..." and to "...display the flag at half-staff from their homes and observe a moment of silence at 8:46 a.m. EDT," this in honor of the Americans who died in the terorist attack.
You know, personally I think this just stinks to hell. I have a better idea, so I'm making a proclamation of my own, which of course is completely unendorsed by any US politicians I'm aware of.
I'm declaring September 11 "International Enough Day." Enough flag-waving, enough violence, enough nationalism. Enough already. September 11 was not an American tragedy, it was a human tragedy. It was a tragedy not just for the people in the US who died, but for every innocent person killed as a result of the US reaction to the attacks as well. It was a tragedy for the human spirit, regardless of nationality, religion, and anything else.
On September 11, let's say "Enough." No more killing. Let's remember not only the victims of the hijacked airplanes in the US, but of the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998. Let's remember all the Israelis killed by Palestinian bombers and all teh Palestinians killed by Israeli troops. Let's remember all the innocent people slain by Union Carbide in Bhopal, India in 1984. Let's take the day to contemplate the people who've been victims of genocidal warfare in Africa, and the ones who've starved to death because of political games as well. Let's remember the victims of the Holocaust and of the firebombing of Dresden, too. Let's not forget those who were slain in the Mai Lai Massacre. Instead of waving the flag of one nation and thinking only about our own dead, let's make September 11 a day to remember all the people who've died at the hands of someone else's political agenda through no fault of their own, and let's say enough. We should stand up and disavow this, no matter what country we're in, no matter what religion we are, no matter our political affiliation or status or race or anything else.
If we had a moment of silence marking the time of every attrocity ever committed in the name of nationalism, religion... every attrocity committed in the name of the artificial borders that try to make us forget that we're all human, all in this together, all fragile creatures whose lives can be snuffed out in an instant through no fault of our own... then we would never speak again.
So we here in America should, I think, observe September 11 as the day when the nightmares that humans around the world have been living with for decades came lumbering ashore on the East Coast of the US. We should see it for what it is; the day the US truly experienced the horror that rings like a bell around the globe, from South America to the Middle East to Micronesia, the day we joined the human race at a most profound and fundamental level.
There should be no "Patriot Day," no day to further emphasize thaty we're different. Instead, let's say "Enough." Enough of putting the interests of any one nation above the interests of the human race. Enough dwelling on our small differences. Enough killing each other over them. Enough hate, enough fear, enough hunger, enough violence, enough bombing, enough enough enough ENOUGH.
We should each find our own way of expressing this. A moment of silence... or perhaps a day of silence. Meditation, art, whatever it is that you do... do it. Take the day to celebrate the lives of all of us -- wherever we're from and whatever we believe -- who are still here, and think on those -- wherever they were, whenever they were and whatever they were -- who weren't so lucky. Take the day to remember the fragility of human life and all the nightmares wrought by those who wanted to impose their will upon the whole of humanity. Commit no act of violence, however small. Let go of any hatred and prejudice and thirst for revenge and, for one day, see yourself in the other and the other in yourself.
 
I agree BeF...
Frankly, I'm disgusted by the prevailing attitude towards September 11...
"Tonight... BRAND NEW footage of a Plane hitting the World Trade Center KILLING hundreds of AMERICANS"
Thus the scope of Australian TV advertising at the moment.
YES, it was a tragedy..
YES, people are sad...
NO, don't remind me by screening new footage sponsored by Coca-Cola. FUCK THAT. Let the families get over it. Move on. While we're ooo-ing and aah-ing over bodies jumping from the 54th floor, the same number of people are screaming and not being heard. Instead of attempting a world co-operative movement, we're pissing off environmentalists and starting wars with Iraq. (Again). Wait a second... for what this time?
 
Very eloquently put. In fact it reminds me of a conversation i partook in with a friend of mine the other night over a slab of beer - his thoughts echo your own, and he is american also.
Personally, i believe than most "average" people have chosen to move on with their lives - it's the sensationalist press of the modern western world, and the self-serving politicians who choose to chew this issue up and constantly spit it in the faces of the genreal public. Most peole seem content to accept that it happened and move on.
"Watch out for the storm, becasue when it storms - it's gonna hail..."
 
This is SO eloquently put...it sums up what I think about the whole S11 thing perfectly.
What Vaile said about the extent of Australian TV being September 11 replayed footage disgusts me...I live in Melbourne, and it's so true..channel 7 must be absolutely wetting themselves at the thought of the ratings they'll get in a couple of days time with their "exclusive never before seen footage". And it's not just them, it's the media in general.
I could go on about this for ages, but I get really heated about it...and as I said before, I think the original poster said it with a lot of eloquence and meaning.
Peace,
Raz
 
Mad props, BeF...you summarized my sentiments, and I was having trouble doing that. Thanks, seriously :)
 
I think this was well said BeF, we should move on and let them rest in peace. I don't believe the media should be showing all this crap all over again, even though I was interested in exactly what we (the US) and others did over there, which I caught yeaterday, but I'm tired of all this gut wrenching, bring a tear to my eye, sob stories that the media has had on everyday for the last year.
I don't agree with your statement about no more killing though. Even though I'm probably going to get a bunch of shit for this. The reason I don't agree with it is because it sounds good, but you can never get humans as a whole to whole-heartedly agree with this. You have to admit that what certain groups in the mid-east are doing to other groups is horrible, and outrageous. For example I'm a male and I don't agree whats so ever with how the taliban treated their women, and as far as I know that was a political decision to have the women treated like that and not a religious one.
What's going on in certain areas of the world is wrong and we should step in as the big brother and try to put an end to this.
Another thing, what if Saddam does have access to nuclear weapons? Where will we be when he decides maybe in 5 years to light that fuse? I truly believe that if there is enough evidence that man has to be stopped, and when that does happen innocent people, the civilians of Bagdad, will die. Thats why its called War, it't not pretty.
 
PepeMarx:
where is this evidence? there is absolutely no evidence that states anything remotely close to warranting a pre-emptive attack on iraq.
this war has nothing to do with terrorism or potential nuclear capabilites. no terrorists come out of iraq. we're up to our necks in corporate scandals, the stock markets are crashing. this war is to protect america from it's already apparent financial miscues. walking around like an moron and thinking iraq is gunning for you is just so fucking dumb. i can't believe people like you exist. war isn't pretty, you're right. but for america to make it's FIRST pre-emptive strike in the history of our nation, with no world support except for tony blair and no real evidence, that's the most idiotic and ignorant decision in the history of the world. i hope someone kills george bush. call me extreme. but whoever did that would be a hero for a lot of people. but after bush, there are still bigger people. vp dick, powell, rumsfeld. kill them all.
ryan.
 
pepe marx sed:
>What's going on in certain areas of the world is >wrong and we should step in as the big brother >and try to put an end to this.
how apropos that you use the phrase "big brother"...
have you ever read 1984 by george orwell? you should read it and them come back and discuss.
shiva
 
pepe marx sed:
>What's going on in certain areas of the world is >wrong and we should step in as the big brother >and try to put an end to this.
how apropos that you use the phrase "big brother"...
have you ever read 1984 by george orwell? you should read it and them come back and discuss.
shiva
 
enough - why dun we sit around and wait for the next suicide bombing then we will say enough to that as well. Not to burst your bubble but its high time America took some action and stamp out all the terrorism, fact of life people die in war and as long as there is struggle for power, equality we will always have war. stop the pussy footing around and accept that America is doing what must be done, how can you let something like this past? When the time is right for International Enough Day is the day when the Atomic bomb wipes out the Arab nations. I firmly believe that America may not be all just and clean but at the very heart of the society are human values, that are the very core of humanity, and to not protect these beliefs for a notion of peace is just ridiculous. Peace cannot be given it is taken.
 
Look...Republican "Charlie Brown" got so excited about nuclear war that he couldn't even speak straight or use correct punctuation.
So, you think we should drop Nuclear weapons on the terrorists? Well, guess what? There are terrorists in just about every country, including the US... should we bomb ourselves?
No more people deserve to die, and a nuclear war is definatly out of the question. It's just stupid to say something like that. If we drop a nuclear weapon, somewhere, someone is going to retaliate and nuke us. Then the world will end in a series of explosions and radiation. No one, not even Sadam himself is stupid enough to start a nuclear war... he just wants us to think he has nuclear weapons so he can hold them over our head and watch us bow down to him. It's obvious but his past actions that he wants us to think he's crazy enough to drop a nuclear weapon, but that's his strategy.
People like you, Charlie Brown, are brainwashed by the media. You think Middle Eastern people are bad just because the television tells you to think that. Why don't you do a little research and add up how many inncent people we've killed in Iraq... in the whole Middle East, before 9/11, and now after. It's a hell of a lot more than the number of people we lost on 9/11.
Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity.
 
Im brainwashed by the media because I want to nuke the Arabs... are you telling me the footage on the TV was bullshit? That arab people werent responsible? That the death of the people in those two massive buildings were somehow less impacting, devastating than shown?
I just have to watch the footage to be outraged enough to warrant an action, the media did cover the story and they did a fine job at that.
Its very easy to say you care for innocent lifes and other bullshit when you are doing nothing at all to uphold your own freedom and rights. You are turning a blind eye to anarchy, terrorist with a prayer for peace, forgiveness, empathy but the world doesnt work that way.
Give Saddam a chance and I think he will nuke the entire USA, that is not a tactic it is a truth...the man will die for it so why wouldnt he. If he does what will the number of casualties by then?
I retract nuking the Arabs bcos I know there are many innocent people as well, and no Im not racist against Arabs. I know that everyone will lose if nukes are used, but I support war against the Iraqis and all others, and I do think nukes should be used as the last resort.
DJ shiva get a life you say such sissy arse shit it is sickening, why dont you say something thought provoking...
 
We should each find our own way of expressing this. A moment of silence... or perhaps a day of silence. Meditation, art, whatever it is that you do... do it. Take the day to celebrate the lives of all of us -- wherever we're from and whatever we believe -- who are still here, and think on those -- wherever they were, whenever they were and whatever they were -- who weren't so lucky. Take the day to remember the fragility of human life and all the nightmares wrought by those who wanted to impose their will upon the whole of humanity. Commit no act of violence, however small. Let go of any hatred and prejudice and thirst for revenge and, for one day, see yourself in the other and the other in yourself.
Lets call it MDMA DAY! For real, you pop a bean and sit around and think about how all connected and vast humanity is. Fuck countries, we dont need em, just keep munchin deez rolls. It would be a whole earth united. Men would lay down their arms and embrace one another, and women from around the world would be giving out the most exotic massages!
Im sorry I dont mean to be a dick, but ur still aknowledging it the day. Maybe the day should be called september 11th. And maybe people should realize that acts of hate and violence happen everywhere every day. Lets think about preventing violence before we celebrate a holiday much of it occurred on.
 
i guess all i gotta say is that i agree for the most part with you bef...but, to me, it honestly doesn't matter if we declare sept 11th "patriot day" for the american ppl or "enough day" for the rest of the world too..it dont matta to me...as far as i'm concerned, many innocent ppl died and i think they deserve to be remembered...this sept 11th was a very hard day for me to deal with because i have lost a lot of ppl in the past yr..so rather than dwelling on the wtc ppl ONLY, i focused a lot on my friends and family who have died...in addition, it - along with all my friends' deaths - has TOTALLY changed my perspective on the value of a life..and with each death that happens, my perspective changes even more and i begin to appreciate everything and everyone more and more...my outlook on life has changed and will never be the same..and as far as i'm concerned we ALL were victims of 9/11..i had good friends who were directly affected and heck obv we were all affected in some way or another..i think it brought the u.s. together as a country..which is something tha's been lacking...and here's why i say this..our generation hasn't had anything this traumatic happen to us...sure we've had wars in other countries and such, but i dont ever remember worrying that my friends were gonna be sent out to war or anything..it was never something that crossed my mind..however, now it has..i DO have friends that are shipped out..and because of all this sept 11th stuff, i can say i have patriotism..when i see the american flag, i feel totally different than i ever did before..and i know that every other american (well i would HOPE every other american) feels somethin different too..it just brings a sense of unity, knowing the entire nation experienced something traumatic and is standing TOGETHER and being there for each other - regardless of color, nationality, etc -...anyways...i guess i'm just tryin to say..sept 11th was a humbling day for the u.s. because it showed that no, america isn't invincible..like so many ppl thought we were...i dont think by declarin it "patriot day" that we're puttin our country above any other...(every other country has their own version of "patriot day" whether it was a genocide or war...they have their own holidays too..)i think it's just a day that we will always remember and will continue to keep our country unified...and like "THE WOOD" said...either way, we're still acknowledging the day..and i have no problem with that...i think we should acknowledge it...and frankly, i think "patriot day" works just fine for me..
 
charlie brown sed:
>Im brainwashed by the media because I want to nuke the Arabs... are you telling me the footage on the TV was bullshit? That arab people werent responsible? That the death of the people in those two massive buildings were somehow less impacting, devastating than shown?
well, if you paid any attention at all, you would know that the arab terrorists on the plane were predominantly saudi nationals, yet we are still buddy buddy with saudi arabia. funny that... we talk all kinds of caca about how were here to uphold freedom and all that, but saudi is still one of the MOST repressive regimes in the arab nation, and the supplier of bodies to commit the sept 11 bullshit.
and how exactly you infer that i would negate the horror of sept 11 is pretty funny. don't try and put words in my mouth, cuz it won't work. do some research buddy. the US has committed atrocities far surpassing the number killed on sept 11, it's just that our media is much less willing to showcase our own role in state terrorism than they are when the perpetrators are darker and pissed off about our role in their ongoing persecution and destruction. oh, but it's "over there" so it doesn't really matter to you, huh?
>>I just have to watch the footage to be outraged
>enough to warrant an action, the media did cover the story and they did a fine job at that.
and it's also easier to react to this with anger and violence when you have no knowledge of the historical context that preceded it. i was outraged too, but for an entirely different reason. why? because i expected this, and i was upset that the US continued to pursue nationalist agendas in the middle east knowing full well that this could be the result. thoes people didn't die for "no reason". they died because our government forged ahead in its racist, nationalist bullshit regardless of the threat that it uncurred toward its own citiznes.
>>Its very easy to say you care for innocent lifes and >>>other bullshit when you are doing nothing at all to uphold your own freedom and rights. You are turning a blind eye to anarchy, terrorist with a prayer for peace, forgiveness, empathy but the world doesnt work that way.
once again, you are very good at assuming that you know a fucking thing about me or what i do. doing nothing at all to uphold my own freedom and rights? what the fuck are you doing? i vote, i protest, i write letters to my politicians (as little as i think the bastards really care) and i get my ass out there and constantly question what my government does. THAT, my friend, is known as CITIZENSHIP. THAT is what is necessary to maintain a democracy. what's happening now is the mass brainwashing and subsequent lockstep marching of the media fed drones, claiming patriotism for no reason other than the fact that they have blanketed their gas guzzling vehicles in american flags (made in china) and claim a hatred for any peoples that happen to have darker skin than they... that has nothing to do with citizenship or patriotism; it has to do with kneejerk unthikning obedience to a leader that claims to have our best interests in mind, but instead is leading our country into an unending, strategically indefensible conflict with no possible resolution other than all out destruction and the new world order once promised by his daddy.
>Give Saddam a chance and I think he will nuke the entire USA, that is not a tactic it is a truth...the man will die for it so why wouldnt he. If he does what will the number of casualties by then?
again, you are reacting solely to propaganda and not to the facts. across the board, experts on the region are saying that after the persian gulf war, iraq does not have the weapons capability that george bush is claiming. he is hype and fear mongering for the sake of increasing the US hold on the region, with no regard as to the potential for destabilization of the entire region. for more on this, read: http://www.counterpunch.com/grinberg0913.html
>>>I retract nuking the Arabs bcos I know there are many innocent people as well, and no Im not racist against Arabs. I know that everyone will lose if nukes are used, but I support war against the Iraqis and all others, and I do think nukes should be used as the last resort.
it's so easy to SAY you're not racist, but take a look at the actions you are supporting. did we go after all white males in michigan after timothy mcvey bombed the federal building in oklahoma city? of course not. but its always easier to target those who we can set apart as "different", whether because of their skin color or their religious beliefes. you say you are not racist, but at no time in your little rant did you specify WHICH arabs. you put them all together in one category because it's easy to do when they are the "other". which arabs were you talking about? which coutries? what about that whole saudi thing? why are we friends with them when it was their nationals that committed the sept 11 attacks? what exactly do you know about the history of our presence in the region? do you care? do you understand that politics bred from inside a historical vacuum are dangerous and potentially threatening to our safety as a nation? how to commit a war on a concept that will inevitably bring more danger to our nation and not less? how do you defend a neverending war on a concept?
>>DJ shiva get a life you say such sissy arse shit it is sickening, why dont you say something thought provoking...
well, read the above and if you stil respond with ignorance than i will maintain that you are an idiot. i have thought long and hard about this subject, and will continue to find sources outside of the corporate-owned, government schill media. will you?
 
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