Misc Seizure after ketamine (possibly because of past 3-meo-pcp)

[illustrain]

Hey guys,

I recently had a seizure after doing a VERY VERY small amount of ketamine at a festival. I did about a 1/3 or 1/4 of a line and about 10 minutes later dropped like a fly. The line was split up between 4 different people and I know it was pure from previous experience and nobody else reacting badly to it. This was the first substance that I partook in the whole weekend, so I know that it was from that. After I dropped, my friends crowded around me and I guess I had a blank stare, looking right through them, then I ended up crawling into somebody else's tent thinking it was my own and staying there for a couple hours. I don't remember any of it and did not even know that it happened until my friends told me the next day. I barely remember climbing into the tent and I thought that I just made a mistake since they were similar tents.

I haven't tripped, rolled or done any dissociative since a "bad" experience 9 months ago on 3-meo-pcp. I basically overdosed on it but did not end up going to a hospital. I was stuck in a "hole" that completely broke down my reality and gave me visuals unlike anything I've ever experienced before. I was doing key bumps of it, and re-dosed 3 times during the course of the night - the last one being a very large key bump so I don't know the dose. I know that this was very stupid and let this serve as a warning to anyone trying it out.

I was stuck in a parked car by myself for an unknown amount of time outside my friends house who left me there because he couldn't get me out. When I finally came out of the "hole" I couldn't find his apartment and made my way back to my house. When I got to my house I thought God was playing tricks on me and things were happening like I would look at the remote control for the TV and it would be 2cm big for a minute, then it would instantly turn to being 5 feet big, crystal clear. Everything else would be the same size. It was an incredibly lucid experience and this happened with different objects, including cars on the road and people. When I was in the "hole" time slowed down to the point that I thought it had stopped and I was stuck in another dimension. I've never had anything so intense happen to me like this before and it makes me wonder if I had a seizure when I was in the 3-meo-pcp hole since I was by myself for a stretch of time, but I don't think that I did. I treated it like MXE, which it absolutely isn't.

When I had the real seizure, I also had not taken my normal xanax dose in a few days previous to doing the bump of K. That may have played a role in making my body more prone to having a seizure since I'm no stranger to K and have done grams upon grams in the past with no problem. I feel like I might have damaged some of my glutamatergic pathways because I did SUCH a small amount before it happened.

Now, many of my muscles hurt very badly, specifically my back. Many of my other muscles hurt a couple of days before, but they have seem to be better each day. Only my upper back is absolutely killing me and I can feel knots in it when I do yoga or sit in a chair with a back. I also feel some numbness in my back where the worst area is.

So... obviously I can never do K again, which sucks because it is my favorite substance. I'm going to continue to do yoga and stretch my back the best I can and schedule a massage as soon as I can afford one. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas on what might have happened? Is there anything I should avoid other then things in the dissociative family? Do you think I should see a doctor and get any tests or scans - I've never had a seizure before even when I was partying hard and touring festivals.

For those who have had a seizure before - is it normal for your muscles to hurt afterwards? Do you remember them at all? If you have one are you much more likely to have another later on? Anyone care to share similar experiences?

Thanks for the help everyone, scary stuff - be safe out there!!

Also, if I did damage my glutamatergic pathways would taking L-Glutamate be a good idea? Any other specific supplements one would recommend after having a seizure?

 

[ShaunG]

What is your "normal" dose of xanax and how often were you taking it? It sounds like you might have answered your own question. Stopping a daily dose of xanax cold turkey with no taper can definitely cause a seizure. It might not have had anything to do with the K.

 

[illustrain]

Normal dose is 4mg a day, sometimes 1mg a day. I feel like if it was because of that I would have been in a hard withdrawal. Maybe not? I was feeling fine up until that point, and even then it was a black out of memory.

 

[Crashing]

Sounds like much more of a benzo issue than a dissociative issue. I've never heard of a very very small amount of K doing much of anything to anyone.

 

[thesameoldfears]

It could very easily be because you stopped your xanax. I feel that had to at least contribute...otherwise you'd expect someone else to have a negative reaction.

From the wikipedia page about bezo withdrawal, "Further, these symptoms are notable for the manner in which they wax and wane and vary in severity from day to day or week by week instead of steadily decreasing in a straightforward linear manner." I know this isn't the best source, but it suggests that the seizure could be your first symtpom of withdrawal.