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Hey,

I'm an 19 year old male aspie and never had anything with a girl or woman, not even kissing. I think it's because I'm not too confident and also often don't know what to do or say. So I thought taking the right drugs could (temporarilly) help me with this, so I can at least once in my life experience the love of a girl/woman. Basically I'm interested in both love/relationships, but also in casual sex if there's an opportunity for that. Though I'd definetely prefer to have a loving girl on my side instead of just a one night stand.

What I tried so far:

  • MDMA(~110mg) -> This one makes me talk more and also makes me more cuddly, but still even on MDMA I'm just too socially inept to seduce a girl
  • Weed -> Doesn't help at all, just makes me a bit more giggly, if it has any effect at all, but definetely doesn't help with confidence and social skills, probably even has negative effects on it
  • LSD (2 strong tabs, ~220µg each) -> Well, I didn't take this before meeting girls/women, but I took it at home and tried to get a psychedelic breakthrough which I hoped would leave me more confident permanently. I didn't get a psychedelic breakthrough though
  • Kratom Thai Maeng Da(3-4g) -> I think it boosts confidence a little bit, but it's really too subtle

What I thought about trying:
  • Meth -> I never tried this, but AFAIK it's said to be a huge confidence booster
  • Speed -> Somewhat similar to Meth, but from what I heard the confidence boost is not nearly as huge(?)
  • Opiates -> Same
  • Higher dose of MDMA -> I guess this might help, since MDMA definetely has a noticeable effect on my confidence, but I also fear that I might be too fucked up and/or too selfless on such a high dose of MDMA so that I won't do what is actually good for ME. Even without MDMA I'm much too selfless and often don't defend my own interests so I guess with too high a dose of MDMA this might be even worse
  • Higher dose of Kratom -> I guess this might also help, but maybe it's too subtle? Any tips on a good dosage for a strong confidence boost from kratom?

So right now, to me it seems the best option for a short term confidence boost is Meth or maybe opiates. In the long term it would be great to achieve a life changing psychedelic breakthrough on LSD or some similar compound(maybe also using meditation or other spiritual techniques), but I'm not sure if I will ever be able to achieve this.

Also, I really would like to get girls by showing them my true self, which is a very sensitive and intelligent person, but how would they notice if I'm either not talking at all or saying irrelevant/stupid/unfunny stuff. So I guess maybe the better way, at least in the first stages of seduction, would be to act like a badass, which I guess Meth might help with.

Thank you to all who have been reading through this and maybe even have an idea for me about what to do.
 
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im more confident when i exercise 5+ days a week (like a 30 min run every evening) and eat healthy

im 21 in the same boat as you and no drugs have helped me get with girls but i am very socially awkward

even if a friend had meth, i would not try it just to try hook up with someone because i dont think its worth it

meditation helps me feel at peace with myself which is more important than pussy or relationships to me
 
Well, I know trying meth sounds like a really stupid idea, but if it really helps with this I want to try it just once. After that I can, hopefully, get this issue out of my mind. Or maybe I don't even need to dive into meth for this, but "normal" speed might also help a great deal?
 
The chances of opioids helping you pick up women are pretty low unless you're exchanging them for sex.
Most stimulants will increase your confidence, lower your inhibition and make you talk more.
There's no reason to take meth over amp unless you want that dopamine rush.

You'd be better off looking for a woman on MDMA ;)
 
Too sloppy.. How's he supposed to explain the bruises?
Girls don't really like beat up guys, the movies lied :(
 
It's hard to say - level of intoxication can vary wildly based on multiple factors.

I'd start with four or five drinks, and see how you're feeling. If you feel that you need more, allow some time between drinks in an attempt to gauge how intoxicated you actually are. It can sneak up on you.

Just have a few drinks with your friends here and there and you'll soon learn how much is enough, and how much is too much.
 
no-one is attractive when off their face but a low dose of amphetamine will make you confident and the sex will be out of this world.

drugs dont solve social problems, they create them.

maybe just put yourself out there over and over. if you want something you have to be prepared for rejection before you get success
 
I've had a lot of experience of hooking up while intoxicated...but getting intoxicated and getting with a girl is almost never going to lead to a relationship that lasts beyond a week or so...

But shit, you've never even kissed a girl...um, well, drugs aren't going to help you there...not really...your inexperience plus your being fucked up isn't really a good thing

I mean, how attractive do you consider yourself to be? Not to be rude, but this obviously matters if you're serious about this discussion.

basically...if you think you're less attractive than the average male, I don't see how drugs would ever help you out. except maybe amphetamines/meth, which would make you automatically more confident in a party atmosphere, but which might make you seem tweaked out in any regular dating setting...but if you're a pretty attractive guy to start with, then yeah, you should just get drunk, lower the inhibitions, and let your looks help you out from there

what I'm trying to say is that using drugs like you're talking about, just to help you pick up a girl for the first time, is OK to do in a party setting, if you're attractive to start out with, but if you're not that attractive, I don't really give a fuck what drugs you're talking about, it's not going to help a lot

- don't bother with the psychedelics looking for a breakthrough - as far as how you interact with girls in REALITY, trust me, psychedelics don't have any magical answers
- other than that, instead of thinking about all these types of drugs you should take to get with girls, maybe you should just go sober to show a girl you like your true self - my best connections have been made sober
- even if when you eventually get your first kiss/lose your virginity, you do so on drugs, drugs aren't the answer...the drugs you're talking about doing to boost your confidence also destroy your body/brain chemistry over time...and girls/relationships will take up a lot of your time if that's your thing...so...
 
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Work on developing self confidence and social/communication skills while sober and don't use the drugs. You're 19 and have plenty of time to work on yourself, meet women, and date them. Are you in college or do you take classes at all where you can meet women? Or do you have friends who could introduce you to single women they know? Good luck.

It sounds like the acid you had was either fake, or it was a very low dose and not 220ug/mics.
 
Mel22 said:
It's hard to say - level of intoxication can vary wildly based on multiple factors.

I'd start with four or five drinks, and see how you're feeling. If you feel that you need more, allow some time between drinks in an attempt to gauge how intoxicated you actually are. It can sneak up on you.

Just have a few drinks with your friends here and there and you'll soon learn how much is enough, and how much is too much.
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ehm, suggesting someone with no real experience with alcohol to drink "4-5 drinks" is pretty stupid. OP, if you go for the booze, try maybe two beers or something along the lines. you don't want to be too drunk, because if the girl isn't completely wasted herself, she might find it a bit disgusting.
 
Stop thinking of girls as aliens. They are people like you. Intoxication on anything will make you act goofy and foolish.
Just take part in social activities that brings you into contact with girls doing normal things.
When you start acting like yourself and stop trying to be "confident" things will go better.
 
Drugs don't solve social problems. If you're looking for something more long term, although it's not impossible to meet an awesome person on drugs, you don't want to be a completely different person than when you get to know them. You don't want to use drugs as an "escape" for this, trust me. Practice... that's what you need :)

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Meth -> Amphetamines are confidence boosters but, if you do go this route, be careful!
Speed -> I thought speed was a slang term for meth? So, same as above
Opiates -> not a good idea
Higher dose of MDMA -> not a good idea
Higher dose of Kratom -> I don't know much about this
 
Funny, I just recently posted something on Asperger's being taken out of the DSM, and the next thread I click on is this. But as others have said, overall drugs aren't the answer to trying to find a meaningful relationship. You're better off trying to work on your social skills, and I feel a little bit hypocritical saying that because I'm kind of antisocial. :\

There's a lot of videos on Youtube tho dealing with your situation...



 
5 drinks in Australia is standard for beginning a night or dropping by the pub with some mates, let alone using it as a confidence booster to get shagged.
 
Going with Bagseed on this one... You guys are seriously recommending that a 19 year old with little to no tolerance to alcohol consume 4-5 drinks as a way to improve his lack of social skills do to Asperger's? That's honestly the worst advice I've heard in a while.
 
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Going with Bagseed on this one... You guys are seriously recommending that a 19 year old with little to no tolerance to alcohol consume 4-5 drinks as a way to improve his lack of social skills do to Asperger's?
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Instead of using meth, speed, opies, high dose MDMA or kratom for the same purpose?

Yes.

Using four-five drinks as a social lubricant is hardly anything to get your panties all twisted about.

Of course, seeking treatment for the Asperger's and improving social skills via sustainable methods (therapy, exposure etc.) is highly preferable, but if the OP is a drug user and would like to feel more comfortable socially, I see absolutely no harm in recommending he try a moderate amount of alcohol before he hits the opies or meth.
 
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