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Heroin Second time about to use need help / possible harm reduction knowledge

FinKarma

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I am a super long time opiate user (100mg of methadone a day for a few years) 30mg oxycodone x5-9 a day for a few years after that, currently x4 oxycodone 30mg per day and 20mg of methadone. I ran out and got some powder dope to snort from my brother so I know it can be trusted, but I don’t know how much to take? This is only my second time using and he cut my lines the last time but it will just be me this time. He recommended 1/4 of each bag a day / dose? Is this about right or should I start with more? Anything I need to know? I’m getting it tomorrow morning so need some advice with dosages.
 
Youre equivalent oxycodone dosage with the methadone is 160-200mg of oxy not including methadone long half life and daily doses compounding. I would say mg by mg oxy and H are close but since most H is cut to shit I would say you'll need 1-3bags a day. Start with a 1/4 of a bag to assess its purity, especially with a lot of heroin containing fentanyl these days.

I remember when I only used 80-100mg of oxy a day, didn't take long to get to 3g of h a day. I say stick with the pills. Id rather have methadone than heroin unless were speaking on injection. I Was on 300mg mdone daily now opioid free.
 
Thanks for the advice. I’m planning to stick with the pills, just ran out and desperate bc I can’t make it 8 days withdrawal going when new semester is about to start up. *knock on wood* is there anyway to know if it has fent in it? I’ve heard they have strips or whatever but not sure where I’d get those or if I’d have the time to wait. My brother said he’s going to the one dealer he trusts the most for me bc I don’t normally do it and wants me to be safe as possible, but still always worry about that.
 
There are test strips online. Although I have extensively used Research chemical variations of fentanyl and would frequently pass UAs. Ive had heroin that you could tell had regular fentanyl hcl in it because id be sick 5 hours later. Ive also had heroin with fentanyl like BUFF which would keep me well for 24 hours+. Theres countless kinds of fentanyl available in pure form and in heroin. Best bet is using smallest amount possible and not reducing for another hour or more but test strips would be advised as well.

I understand being sick and having to use. Loperamide is also available and will keep withdrawal away 100% although at those doses it is dangerous to the heart but personally id take that over an overdose risk plus its dirt cheap.
 
Most heroin is just heroin or just fentanyl but ive had H that contained both. I seasoned addict could tell if its heroin by the strong bitter taste alone but that doesn't help if it contains heroin and fentanyl.
 
Actually almost all heroin these days, even product users swear is fent free, contain some level of fentanyl. Out of literally hundreds of analysis done on DrugsData.com ive only seen one report in the last year that DIDNT contain fentanyl.

Always be wary of street dope these days. It’s becoming obvious today’s users can’t tell.

-GC
 
Fentanyl is most certainly in your product.

Just proceed with caution please.

Just to demonstrate how much a “hot spot” can occur with fentanyl I once mixed a shot, did half the night before. Did the second half of the shot the next morning and ODed on the second half. The night before I barely caught a nod.

One mg of fentanyl is deadly to a opiate naive user.

Clearly the shot was no homogenous mixture or whatever the fucking chemistry word is. Or not “even throughout”

I don’t think I shook the needle so maybe if I did that I’d be dead that night idk
 
I always felt safer buying my fent 'pure' from china. At least I could volumetric dose it. Not to mention for the cost of a gram of dope I could get high for weeks.

OP i would go with the lope. If the doses are kept low the chances of QT elongation and cardiac instances are slim. Think the 30-75mg max range. Its an opioid that will completely stop withdrawals and gives a mood boost. Its saved me many times. Its very sedating though I always had to use caffeine with it.

I understand the allure of heroin, but imo if its not pure or IVd then what's the point. Not worth dying although I'm one too talk. Dozens of overdoses never stopped me. When I was heavy into dope fentanyl was barely on the scene, it wasn't until many years clean and a year of relapsing it became so prevalent as did the fent RC scene. All I can say is the dope game isn't what it used to be, not that it was ever safe.
 
I always felt safer buying my fent 'pure' from china. At least I could volumetric dose it. Not to mention for the cost of a gram of dope I could get high for weeks.

OP i would go with the lope. If the doses are kept low the chances of QT elongation and cardiac instances are slim. Think the 30-75mg max range. Its an opioid that will completely stop withdrawals and gives a mood boost. Its saved me many times. Its very sedating though I always had to use caffeine with it.

I understand the allure of heroin, but imo if its not pure or IVd then what's the point. Not worth dying although I'm one too talk. Dozens of overdoses never stopped me. When I was heavy into dope fentanyl was barely on the scene, it wasn't until many years clean and a year of relapsing it became so prevalent as did the fent RC scene. All I can say is the dope game isn't what it used to be, not that it was ever safe.
I thought snorting was safer than IV in terms of over dose risk? That’s what I’ve read somewhere. I figured I’d be safer because I’d start with tiny doses each time and back off when I started to feel high. I’m not looking to get wrecked just not feel like shit for a week until my script arrives.
 
Sorry I meant that the best part of heroin is the insane rush and instant high from IV but as far as safety IV is the least safe.

You are correct so snorting is safer. Snort very small bumps if you must use it that would be safest. Wait awhile to redose. Sounds like you have your head in the realm of harm reduction. Good luck.
 
I am a super long time opiate user (100mg of methadone a day for a few years) 30mg oxycodone x5-9 a day for a few years after that, currently x4 oxycodone 30mg per day and 20mg of methadone. I ran out and got some powder dope to snort from my brother so I know it can be trusted, but I don’t know how much to take? This is only my second time using and he cut my lines the last time but it will just be me this time. He recommended 1/4 of each bag a day / dose? Is this about right or should I start with more? Anything I need to know? I’m getting it tomorrow morning so need some advice with dosages.
Are you sure it's supposed to be snorted? If your in the UK it is 100% supposed to be smoked if your in America probably 50/50 I'm not sure actually if it's not black tar you should good as for dose you have to get a feel for it really and to make sure you don't overdose have a little test like 1/4 what you normally would and he patient also keep in mind if it's your first time you might make a mistake and not do it right it don't mean the gears bad when I thought I was overdosing (I couldn't barely breath) I went downstairs and sat with my grandma told her I was feeling bad and I took something and if I pass out and she can't wake me to phone 999 I suggest in case this situation happens and it might because snorting is common overdose roa I wasn't snorting I was smoking but the gear was a lot stronger then I thought and I had weed and promethazine actually the overdose symptoms started when I was nearly at my grandmas I was literally off my face and started stumbling I was aware of this though and my breathing I knew I had to get to my grandmas asap and walk normal in case someone tried to rob me cus no way would I have been able to fight or run straight a lie ahead would stand a better chance anyway I made it stressed out my grandma and went back to my old place this was over a year ago it's a dangerous and forbidden drug bro show it some respect and be careful
 
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