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search engines any info on duckandgo?

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search engines any info on duck duck go?

I see alot of folks have been using this for the past few years. I'm kinda addicted to da big G, but have found it's getting worse and worse over time. It just seems to show the results that it chooses or that people have paid big bucks to get to the top of the list. I'm gonna defect, even bing sounds like a better option.
duckandgo seems a bit convoluted to use, but for a more unbiased result; maybe it's worth a few days, weeks or months getting used to.
any thoughts?
 
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I think you mean "duck duck go."

There is no such thing as no tracking, so I think they are full of shit there. I don't trust any site that says they don't track, because it's just the very basics of the Internet that all traffic is tracked.

Just an FYI: you can't buy organic Google search rank. Their organic search and paid Adwords ads are completely separate departments, and they are very strict about intermingling between the two. You can't pay to be on the top of Google.

But anyway, lots of search engines scrape Google, which is against their ToS. Duck Duck go seems to be the small shop that people go to when they want to escape "the man," but meh, the man gives me the best results and have smarter people working for them, so I like them better. I like personalized results as well as the options.

You could always try Duck Duck Go. If you own a website, Duck Duck Go won't even be a blip in your reports. Bing barely brings in traffic.
 
Thanks for your reply Lysis.
It's given me alot to think about; from your post I'd assume your a website owner.
The difference between Adword search vs. an organic search, the latter is unfamiliar to me.
Google has Advertising, the advertising seems to be targeted to an individuals search history and interests that span Google apps. I'm unsure of what an organic search is.
It's a sad state of affairs if other smaller companies revert to trawling other search engine bot's to fill their own database.
My only gripe is that through many years of using Google dot com, there are many websites that used to be contained and easily found within the context; but now are history or bookmarked.
 
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Thanks for your reply Lysis.
It's given me alot to think about; from your post I'd assume your a website owner.
The difference between Adword search vs. an organic search, the latter is unfamiliar to me.
Google has Advertising, the advertising seems to be targeted to an individuals search history and interests that span Google apps. I'm unsure of what an organic search is.
It's a sad state of affairs if other smaller companies revert to trawling other search engine bot's to fill their own database.
My only gripe is that through many years of using Google dot com, there are many websites that used to be contained and easily found within the context; but now are history or bookmarked.


There are three things at play here. Organic Seach, Adwords and Adsense(which includes doubleclick.com etc).

Organic search - These are the regular search results. Google doesn't fully disclose the formula for their secret recipe but from what we know it doesn't have anything to do with advertising and is almost purely based on website content and what you are searching for. Ranking is mostly based on an algorithm that includes the website's content(keywords, authority etc), load speed, backlinks, reputation etc.

Adwords - These are the advertisements that are mostly shown when you get your search results and are usually have "sponsored" or "ad" clearly written somewhere. These are also shown based on the keywords you search for but the algorithm is different. When someone sets up an ad campaign with adwords they import a huge list of keywords for the specific ad. When the consumer searches for one of those keywords the ad has a chance of showing up, this depends on competition for that keyword, how much the advertising is bidding for your click etc.

Adsense - This is the google ad platform that people use on their websites. These are the ads you may see on an actual website if they use adsense, This is almost completely based on demographic/location targeting etc.

Lysis is correct in that you can't pay to be at the top of google organic but it's kind of difficult for some people to tell the difference as the some adwords results are at the top of google. Here is a picture of the google search page. I put red around the adwords/sponsored content and green around the organic search.

li07p.png
 
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Startpage.com. Been using for a couple years and love it.
No tracking at all, & it's a proxy search for google.com . It even provides a proxy to visit any website from your search results.
 
Thanks for the detailed information LuGoJ.
I try to circumvent most Ad's if possible with Adblock or Adblock plus. It has a generally fair system whereby the default setting doesn't block all Ad's, or you can choose to customize the allow or deny list to suit.
Stylish though has a great simple piece of code that isn't available on userstyles website anymore. Basically all it does is shrink all pictures until you hover over them. This is a godsend for shrinking the size of a page and helps to avoid scrolling endlessly. It works in firefox and chrome.


img {
width:22px !important;
height:22px !important;
}

img:hover {
width:auto !important;
height:auto !important;
}}

Just simple CSS.

No Google Ads or Sponsored Links w/ Adjusted Pages is good also

Midnight surfing alternative

Thanks also to lazylazyjoe, I'll check it out to be sure.
 
Thanks for the detailed information LuGoJ.
I try to circumvent most Ad's if possible with Adblock or Adblock plus. It has a generally fair system whereby the default setting doesn't block all Ad's, or you can choose to customize the allow or deny list to suit.
Stylish though has a great simple piece of code that isn't available on userstyles website anymore. Basically all it does is shrink all pictures until you hover over them. This is a godsend for shrinking the size of a page and helps to avoid scrolling endlessly. It works in firefox and chrome.


img {
width:22px !important;
height:22px !important;
}

img:hover {
width:auto !important;
height:auto !important;
}}

Just simple CSS.

No Google Ads or Sponsored Links w/ Adjusted Pages is good also

Midnight surfing alternative

Thanks also to lazylazyjoe, I'll check it out to be sure.

That's cool.

I just run noscript it blocks most ads as an added benefit.
 
Yeah I agree LuGoJ, noscript is the answer to a number a threads that have been posted on bluelight recently.
Even just clicking on a website (untrusted or not) can run malicious code without any pop-ups unknown to the user.
It's bitch'in though and fires warnings here there and everywhere; no javascript, no flash, no java. It's brutal but for good reason. It's good and updated but takes some getting used to :)
 
I can't vouch for it 100% but extension defender should block dodgy add-on installs from known corrupt plug-in developers.
Even legit download sites (chrome, firefox, opera) don't check; especially when the source code has been used and is generally regarded as 'safe'.
Illegitimate vendors buy the code and ranking on these sites and implant anything they want.
Last update was the 18th of last month. extensiondefender dot com.
Dr.web antivirus link checker seems to be fairly highly rated, but there was another similar extension that appends a green positive or a red negative to Google search results, the name I forget but it was a handy visual aid.
Stay safe.
 
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Thanks for your reply Lysis.
It's given me alot to think about; from your post I'd assume your a website owner.
The difference between Adword search vs. an organic search, the latter is unfamiliar to me.
Google has Advertising, the advertising seems to be targeted to an individuals search history and interests that span Google apps. I'm unsure of what an organic search is.
It's a sad state of affairs if other smaller companies revert to trawling other search engine bot's to fill their own database.
My only gripe is that through many years of using Google dot com, there are many websites that used to be contained and easily found within the context; but now are history or bookmarked.

I haven't had personalized Google results since about I noticed that it started happening. Firefox with Disconnect, uBlock (AdBlockEdge back then, it was much better than AdBlock+ when that one started to whitelist some ads),NoScript (this one is really for geeks I guess, it's not that hard to get it to work, and slowly make sites that connect to 56 sites when connecting to it and if really paranoid, RequestPolicy, but that one at the same time as NoScript is ridiculous and I say, use one or the other if you're going to take control of that browser. Of course all this takes into consideration that you do not have your browser in some kind of Sandbox environment. When I am in Windows 7 x64 ultimate (I only keep it to game games that don't play well in Linux even when emulated with stuff better than wine like the closed-source CrossOver, I got version 13.2 and it does 70% of games), I got that Firefox behind a program called Sandboxie which isolates one's browsing from one's computer in a bunch of manners, kinda like running win7 in a VM, which is even more secure.

. I prefer an iptables firewall based on some paylist that's updated constantly since the year 2000, it used to be free, but some argument between the analysts caused a rift and, well, I'm not gonna name it, but 25 euro a year for something that's updated every week at least, is better than an antivirus suite, even high quality ones, because you have to still give it rules regarding connections, and I don't pretend nor would have the time to do what these people do. That and blocking entire nations, no racism, just the fact that a lot of unwanted connections happen often from certain sites. And it makes torrenting safer too, much much safer. With that list, a vpn is optional for most people living in a country where outrage about downloading isn't present (it's not in Canada, and that 2005 ruling that sharing mp3's by the Supreme Court was legal was pretty neat).

If you know what you're doing, you can be very hard to get content from, and that's just some ideas how to do so, that do not involve tor or vpn's (vpn's are superior, but I won't go into that. At least now anyway, google allows one to basically get the ol' not-so-pêrsonalized google, but you gotta tell them you want it to be like that. Which imo is okay, but it's really cool to have a virgin internet connection's google results, even if one does not use google much, sometimes its necessary, the most annoying reason for me is that I do record myself (I don't show my face cause I don't wanna be a rock star) covering, with solos, songs from the like of Possessed, Slayer, Sacrifice, Propagandhi, etc. on guitar, if I could, I'd drop everything and just be in a serious touring band, but yeah, I do my internet whoring too, but it's to find people who like my kind of music, I was born a bit too late unfortunately. The closest to anything serious, angry, political at times, thrashcore/crossover is a guy who is like me, but who plays everything, can't play drums for shit, and I got trouble with bass so nah. But that doesn't matter.

Sorry for bumping this old thing, but somebody said there was a thread about duckduckgo and tracking recently and God approved results (Google of course) didn't give me anything more recent than this.
 
I used to use I2p which was pretty damn solid.

I got pretty cocky getting way out my league running so much encryption shit that I had to factory wipe.

I2p is still the shit as far as I know and there is always TOR.

I ain't here to help you score drugs, I can't be, but proctecting your privacy is a motherfucker these days but I go through extreme lengths on something that could come back to fuck me over but honestly the nsa collects so much data as long as you are a drop in the bucket chances of getting crucified are small.

But hey its still sketchy. Fuck SOS got hacked. I didn't have an account but that was a rather vital darknet tool. Its up to you if it is worth it. I have gone to jail and done time over petty stuff, honestly nothing really to do with drugs other than what people had to make up.
 
i2p is a slow bitch, I didn't like going slow like a 33.6 modem with my 60mbps cable back when I tried it, that and freenet.

Anyway I meant I needed Google mostly for Youtube, which explains the me covering songs on guitar, although as no one needs to see my face, I either wear a ski mask or my older ones, just filmed what's really necessary to see, guitar and fingers.
 
You're supposed to run i2p on a gateway machine...Those cool-guy darknet proxies are routers. You can run them on whatever your workstation is but it's not really the best choice, especially for a service like i2p. i2p bootstraps itself a swarm, so it gets faster with more uptime. If you're only letting the router run when you get a hair up your ass to check things out through the i2p service then it's always going to be ponderously slow for you.

It also helps if you have a caching proxy, which is a fucking lot more useful imo.
 
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