Hello everyone. Im new as a member to BL, but have always watched and prayed for others after reading their posts. Ive experienced most habit forming drugs to the fullest extent, and been to hell and back with each one.
It started with a herniated disc about 12 years ago, and a doctor (who is now stripped of his license for over prescribing, and self prescribing) that introduced me to Lortab. I had no idea what being dependent on anything was about. I never actually knew what artificial euphoria was until then. Long story short, I fell in love. After about 6 years of being prescribed Lortab, and uping the dose to about 7 10mg Lortab 3 to 4 times a day, I realized I had to stop. Painful as it was, I did it. It took about 2 months for the physical withdrawal to pass. THe mental withdrawal, though decreasingly less, seemed to never fully dissapear over the next couple months.
That is when I found out about tramadal. THis helped with the pain that I still had in my lower back, and took away the mental grip that opiates had on my brain. Ive always heard that it was a non habit forming drug, and could do wonders for withdrawal. Well, I enden up taking about anywhere from 30 to 50 of them a day. I guess that some of us have different experiences and results with different drugs, but to me the Tramadol was far worse than hydrocodone. I had to take a 2 week vacation from work just to be able to get through the physical withdrawal I would endure. That was the most painful experience, physically and mentally, I had ever endured. But...I did it. Around that time, I studied all the withdrawal home and prescription remedies that were out there. I used my own version of the Thomas Recipe to help get through that one.
Finally after overcoming the physical aspect of tramadal dependence, slowly becoming less depressed and countless nights of insomnia, I decided that I needed real help with my lower back pain. I told myself, "no matter what, I wont take any opiates, and inform them of my situation". That all sounds good whenever youre telling your wife what your plans are, but when the doctor visit arrives, and asks if youre allergic to any meds, and what not, the light turns on, and the jonesin begins. I wasnt mentally prepared to turn down a prescription of Norco. Especially a 120count with 3 refills. Jackpot, I thought. I did this for just over 2 years, until they cut me off. Sad day. So this would be the 3rd time I went through a major withdrawal after years of use. Of course they gave me a script and a taper schedule, but that was gone in 2 days. Seriously, who is gonna taper with 15 pills when you are used to taking 20 a day. Cold Turkey, got through it, because to me, again in MHO, way easier than the tramadol withdrawal.
That brings us to about a year ago. I was doing fine. Almost completely have my physc back, and depression almost gone, atleast I think.... Anyway, I came home from work one day, and was discussing with my wife, that I wish there was something that you could take, that would give you some pep, and euphoria, that wasnt illegal, or addicting. We did some researching, and remembered someone telling her about an all natural, non habit forming, substance, that was almost like dros. This is when we discovered Kratom. We ordered, (easiest substance to purchase by far....) and that was all she wrote.
For those that say Kratom isnt that good, or Kratom is not addicting, or Kratom is overrated....I wish I was you.
Im not saying that you are wrong. Actually, youre probably 100% right. FOR YOU. Ive been through enough sh!+ and tooken enough different things, that I know each and every anything, has different effects on different people. But FOR ME....Kratom has a grip much like tram. I will say, that it is WAYYYY more Euphoric, and lasts wwwaaaayyyyyyyyyy longer than anything else Ive encountered. Ive went a couple days without it and it was Hell. I do know that it is going to be a bi+(# to overcome.
That brings us to today. I have a child on the way. I have an extremely physically and mentally demanding job in which I work close to 70 hours a week. I cannot continue to be this person any longer. Ive been preparing for this for about a month now, getting my body and mind ready to endure pure pain. Getting my body ready with (plenty) certain vitamins and natural herbs, so that the withdrawal wont hit so hard initially. I take many different items in the morning, and before bed. Ive spent close to $100 dollars just on the particular vitamins and supplements to help get me through this. I have a taper schedule that will start this coming Monday, leading to a vacation Ive tooken that will start the following Monday. I pray the Lord will be with me, and do what has to be done, so that I will never think about any mind altering state again.
The thing is, again for ME, I have to dose Kratom first thing in the morning, or Ill be sweating, extreme fatigue, and pain all over my body within the first hour of beeing awake. Then, I try to withstand dosing again for about 6 hours, until the symptons start again. I dose, and 15 minutes later, Im fine. Then I could go to bed, but without a dose before bed, I will wake up because of crazy mentally depressing dream, with cold sweats, CRAZY RLS, and twiching. The mental part of this drug SUCKS. So, I take a dose before I go to bed and sleep like a puppy. This has also become staggering to my bank account. At first, it seemed cheap, and easy to get, but now I have to buy the crap 2 to 3 times a week, just so I dont run out before the symptons start. The Fedex dude is probably sick and tired of me. Im up to about 80 grams of the Ultra Enhanced Indo which runs about 400 dollars a week. Id be better off with a heroin addiction at this point. Being that I live in Montana though, its probably a bit harder to obtain. anyway, this is by far the biggest grip anything has ever had on my body and brain.
Ive done so much research and studyiing about the body, the mind, and chemicals, vitamins, natural herbs, etc. that I should have a degree by now, lol. Ive spent plenty of time planning the perfect withdrawal remedy in every way possible. The only thing I think I lack at this point, is well............SUPPORT. That is what brought me to you guys. I know that alot of people on here, have gone through similar things, with similar results, and similar situations. I dont think I can do this alone, So if anyone, please-ANYONE, can help with advice or even stories, to help me, I will VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ANY AND ALL responses. I will keep you updated atleast 2 to 10 times a day once this begins. Hopefully It will reach someone else, and help them with their own problem or curiosity. Thank you so much for even taking the time to read about my endevoir and Thanks again, for your help
God Bless everyone in this place tonight
Ill keep you posted
It started with a herniated disc about 12 years ago, and a doctor (who is now stripped of his license for over prescribing, and self prescribing) that introduced me to Lortab. I had no idea what being dependent on anything was about. I never actually knew what artificial euphoria was until then. Long story short, I fell in love. After about 6 years of being prescribed Lortab, and uping the dose to about 7 10mg Lortab 3 to 4 times a day, I realized I had to stop. Painful as it was, I did it. It took about 2 months for the physical withdrawal to pass. THe mental withdrawal, though decreasingly less, seemed to never fully dissapear over the next couple months.
That is when I found out about tramadal. THis helped with the pain that I still had in my lower back, and took away the mental grip that opiates had on my brain. Ive always heard that it was a non habit forming drug, and could do wonders for withdrawal. Well, I enden up taking about anywhere from 30 to 50 of them a day. I guess that some of us have different experiences and results with different drugs, but to me the Tramadol was far worse than hydrocodone. I had to take a 2 week vacation from work just to be able to get through the physical withdrawal I would endure. That was the most painful experience, physically and mentally, I had ever endured. But...I did it. Around that time, I studied all the withdrawal home and prescription remedies that were out there. I used my own version of the Thomas Recipe to help get through that one.
Finally after overcoming the physical aspect of tramadal dependence, slowly becoming less depressed and countless nights of insomnia, I decided that I needed real help with my lower back pain. I told myself, "no matter what, I wont take any opiates, and inform them of my situation". That all sounds good whenever youre telling your wife what your plans are, but when the doctor visit arrives, and asks if youre allergic to any meds, and what not, the light turns on, and the jonesin begins. I wasnt mentally prepared to turn down a prescription of Norco. Especially a 120count with 3 refills. Jackpot, I thought. I did this for just over 2 years, until they cut me off. Sad day. So this would be the 3rd time I went through a major withdrawal after years of use. Of course they gave me a script and a taper schedule, but that was gone in 2 days. Seriously, who is gonna taper with 15 pills when you are used to taking 20 a day. Cold Turkey, got through it, because to me, again in MHO, way easier than the tramadol withdrawal.
That brings us to about a year ago. I was doing fine. Almost completely have my physc back, and depression almost gone, atleast I think.... Anyway, I came home from work one day, and was discussing with my wife, that I wish there was something that you could take, that would give you some pep, and euphoria, that wasnt illegal, or addicting. We did some researching, and remembered someone telling her about an all natural, non habit forming, substance, that was almost like dros. This is when we discovered Kratom. We ordered, (easiest substance to purchase by far....) and that was all she wrote.
For those that say Kratom isnt that good, or Kratom is not addicting, or Kratom is overrated....I wish I was you.
Im not saying that you are wrong. Actually, youre probably 100% right. FOR YOU. Ive been through enough sh!+ and tooken enough different things, that I know each and every anything, has different effects on different people. But FOR ME....Kratom has a grip much like tram. I will say, that it is WAYYYY more Euphoric, and lasts wwwaaaayyyyyyyyyy longer than anything else Ive encountered. Ive went a couple days without it and it was Hell. I do know that it is going to be a bi+(# to overcome.
That brings us to today. I have a child on the way. I have an extremely physically and mentally demanding job in which I work close to 70 hours a week. I cannot continue to be this person any longer. Ive been preparing for this for about a month now, getting my body and mind ready to endure pure pain. Getting my body ready with (plenty) certain vitamins and natural herbs, so that the withdrawal wont hit so hard initially. I take many different items in the morning, and before bed. Ive spent close to $100 dollars just on the particular vitamins and supplements to help get me through this. I have a taper schedule that will start this coming Monday, leading to a vacation Ive tooken that will start the following Monday. I pray the Lord will be with me, and do what has to be done, so that I will never think about any mind altering state again.
The thing is, again for ME, I have to dose Kratom first thing in the morning, or Ill be sweating, extreme fatigue, and pain all over my body within the first hour of beeing awake. Then, I try to withstand dosing again for about 6 hours, until the symptons start again. I dose, and 15 minutes later, Im fine. Then I could go to bed, but without a dose before bed, I will wake up because of crazy mentally depressing dream, with cold sweats, CRAZY RLS, and twiching. The mental part of this drug SUCKS. So, I take a dose before I go to bed and sleep like a puppy. This has also become staggering to my bank account. At first, it seemed cheap, and easy to get, but now I have to buy the crap 2 to 3 times a week, just so I dont run out before the symptons start. The Fedex dude is probably sick and tired of me. Im up to about 80 grams of the Ultra Enhanced Indo which runs about 400 dollars a week. Id be better off with a heroin addiction at this point. Being that I live in Montana though, its probably a bit harder to obtain. anyway, this is by far the biggest grip anything has ever had on my body and brain.
Ive done so much research and studyiing about the body, the mind, and chemicals, vitamins, natural herbs, etc. that I should have a degree by now, lol. Ive spent plenty of time planning the perfect withdrawal remedy in every way possible. The only thing I think I lack at this point, is well............SUPPORT. That is what brought me to you guys. I know that alot of people on here, have gone through similar things, with similar results, and similar situations. I dont think I can do this alone, So if anyone, please-ANYONE, can help with advice or even stories, to help me, I will VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ANY AND ALL responses. I will keep you updated atleast 2 to 10 times a day once this begins. Hopefully It will reach someone else, and help them with their own problem or curiosity. Thank you so much for even taking the time to read about my endevoir and Thanks again, for your help
God Bless everyone in this place tonight
Ill keep you posted
