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Saudi Arabia is preparing to behead and crucify a 21-year-old activist

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Written By - Svati Kirsten Narula - QUARTZ

A young Saudi Arabian Shi’a activist, who was sentenced to death last year, has lost his final appeal for justice and is due to be executed by beheading, followed by the mounting of his headless body onto a crucifix for public viewing.

Human rights groups and Saudi critics are appalled by both the nature of the execution and the flimsy case against Ali Mohammed al-Nimr, though neither of these factors are unusual in today’s Saudi Arabia.

Al-Nimr was arrested in 2012, at age 17, in the predominantly Shia province of Qatif, and accused of participating in anti-government protests and possessing illegal firearms. He has repeatedly denied the latter charge, although he was reportedly tortured into confessing the offenses after his arrest.

According to Amnesty International, al-Nimr spent a short time in a juvenile detention facility before being transferred to prison when he turned 18, and was sentenced to death in 2014.

Al-Nimr was likely targeted because he is the nephew of Sheikh Nimr Baqir al-Nimra, a prominent Shi’a cleric who was also sentenced to death in 2014. Al-Nimr’s father is also a political activist.

“Ali was a vulnerable child when he was arrested and this ordeal began,” said Maya Foa of the legal charity Reprieve, in a statement. “His execution—based apparently on the authorities’ dislike for his uncle, and his involvement in anti-government protests—would violate international law and the most basic standards of decency. It must be stopped.”

US talk show host Bill Maher raised al-Nimr’s situation on television a few days ago, encouraging viewers to stop fretting about the American Muslim who was arrested for bringing a clock to school and instead show some concern for the Saudi who’s going to be crucified for attending a protest.

“If you haven’t used up all your heroism hashtagging for the clock kid, maybe do it for this guy,” Maher said.

Al-Nimr’s imminent execution is drawing massive opposition to the United Nations’ recent appointment of the Saudi ambassador to lead an influential human rights panel...

link:http://qz.com/506932/saudi-arabia-is-preparing-to-behead-and-crucify-a-21-year-old-activist/
 
I believe Bill Maher misspoke when he said this individual would be crucified and then beheaded. I think the beheading takes place before the crucifixion.

(my source is the article, not something I care to learn much about - obvious reasons)
 
Let's give a warm welcome to the new head of the United Nations Human Rights Council

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meehhh, Saudi Arabia is one of these places that doesn't fuck around, its cultural relative. We use the term activist, they think treason. Guilty by association. Its appropriate given the context.
 
meehhh, Saudi Arabia is one of these places that doesn't fuck around, its cultural relative. We use the term activist, they think treason. Guilty by association. Its appropriate given the context.

I don't give a shit about their cultural context, it's wrong, i'll say it's wrong, i think the world not only should say it's wrong but has every right to inflict sanctions for it. Cultural tolerance only extends so far.
 
Sentencing someone to death--no matter how death is meted out--for his ideas cannot be possibly be called "appropriate". The barbarism that we still tolerate--from the electric chair and gas chambers in the US to beheading in the Islamic states to firing squads in Indonesia--is abhorrent. Sentencing people to death for any reason is state sanctioned murder.
 
Sentencing people to death for any reason is state sanctioned murder.

If they have undisputedly committed mass murder, fiddled or raped minors, I think the death penalty is quite justified. In this context however, the death penalty is absolutely ridiculous. Also, I wasn't sure what Bardeaux was referring to, so I googled it.. what an absolute piss take.. you just can't make this stuff up.
 
I'm just saying if I lived in Saudi Arabia I'd be a good lil' Muslim. The mere thought of going to a protest would make me fearful, so much so I'd piss my pants.
 
I'm just saying if I lived in Saudi Arabia I'd be a good lil' Muslim. The mere thought of going to a protest would make me fearful, so much so I'd piss my pants.

Sure, but that doesn't make it 'right' that the situations like that or make the punishment just.
 
If they have undisputedly committed mass murder, fiddled or raped minors, I think the death penalty is quite justified. In this context however, the death penalty is absolutely ridiculous.

Ethics aside. I am against the death penalty for two simple reasons.

1. Innocent people have been sentenced to death.
2. It usually costs more to sentence someone to death than it does life in prison.

SS said:
Also, I wasn't sure what Bardeaux was referring to, so I googled it.. what an absolute piss take.. you just can't make this stuff up.

Yeah, I came across this story a few days ago but I figured it was either false, misreported, or maybe some low level position that the media was trying to hype because of its obvious absurdity. So I waited, checked many different outlets and apparently it is true. This and the allegations accusing that illustrious Prime minister of getting fucked up and sticking his junk in a pigs mouth made for a very strange news day.

Wouldn't even want to imagine what the punishment would be in Saudi Arabia if you got caught intoxicated with your dick stuck in a pigs mouth. As far as I know they don't care for alcohol or pork very much.
 
Sentencing someone to death--no matter how death is meted out--for his ideas cannot be possibly be called "appropriate". The barbarism that we still tolerate--from the electric chair and gas chambers in the US to beheading in the Islamic states to firing squads in Indonesia--is abhorrent. Sentencing people to death for any reason is state sanctioned murder.

I agree.

Mistakes are made. The justice system is flawed / corrupt.

I'm disgusted at what people allow to happen. (And I don't want to start a discussion on it, but I feel that abortion is similarly barbaric and abhorrent.)
 
And yet the US and the west in general is more then happy to support this Totalitarian barbarian regime that still practices Crucifixion ffs. This is hardly a isolated case as maybe a decade ago a few Canadians and British people where arrested by the Saudi government for bootlegging and the Canadian was actually threatened with a form of Crucifixion. As the Canadian government is not only cowardly but possibly even worse then the US government in defending it's own people when arrested abroad the Canadian may very well have been crucified or atleast hung had the British government not intervened on his behalf. Yet when the US makes a deal with Iran who are a much more moderate country (yet still have a long way to go though they are miles ahead of the stone age SA) and who's younger people born after the counter revolution by and large hate their government and will probably overthrow the government the first real chance they get then it's a scandal. Why may a sane person ask? Because of good ol Capitalism that's why. The Oil Saudi Arabia has and because Saudi Arabia is the biggest bum buddy of the US in the region ensures that the US won't intervene in any domestic matters in that country as business always beats ideology. It also doesn't hurt that Saudi Arabia and Israel both have many of the same interests in the region and even cooperate with each other to some extent on things like intelligence and military operations. They especially have the same interests when it comes to Iranian influence within the region.

So despite the Saudi governments barbaric practices, the fact that women are 3rd class citizens quite literally in that cuntry, the sectarianism which is actually a part of the fucking government and the fact that they not only came up with but have exported Wahhabism and every shaggin group of butchers that follow it such as the Mujahideen aka the Taliban before they became the bad guys and of course lately ISIS the US and Canada and most of the west are more then happy to bend over backwards for these stuck in the dark age and are quite happy to remain that way bunch of butchers.

What is no better of course is that bigoted opportunists will use this as a excuse to further hate on all Muslims despite the fact that the kid arrested was Shia Muslim himself ffs. But then again these bigots can't be expected to understand such complex things as different sects of Islam hating each other worse then they do any Christians. Saudi Arabia has a history of oppressing and terrorizing Shia Muslims (hence the shared interests and cooperation between Saudi Arabia and Israel on the Iran issue) which is something that is beyond the grasp of the majority of Right wingers. The reasons behind this and other divisions within Islam are far too complex for the mind of the bigot so you will just get instead the usual Islam is evil, Christianity is good and the religion we are all supposed to follow and Judaism is good as long as they support what Conservatives in the US are doing mantra.
 
PA said:
It also doesn't hurt that Saudi Arabia and Israel both have many of the same interests in the region and even cooperate with each other to some extent on things like intelligence and military operations.

I have read some reports about Israel conducting airstrikes in Yemen. I am always suspicious though- difficult to decipher what is or is not propaganda

In other news related to Yemen supposedly a mosque was just bombed during Eid prayer - might have been a suicide attack.
 
Yemen is starting to look like 1936 Spain, all the big players in the region are testing their abilities. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised in Israel is conducting campaigns in the country, especially as the Iranian-backed Houthies are holding so much ground.
 
meehhh, Saudi Arabia is one of these places that doesn't fuck around, its cultural relative. We use the term activist, they think treason. Guilty by association. Its appropriate given the context.

No, they are out of order. It's not just cultural. It's a message.
 
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