Ethnobotanicals [Salvia Subthread] Extract 100X Strength

[thoughtsUnThought]

i'm interested in this ferris wheel, could you guys describe this sensation??

is it a visual ferris wheel effect, or a sensation of circiularly oriented movement?

 

[psood0nym]

^Yeah. Could you describe this more, I'm not sure what you mean. I've twice experienced a vision of a "saw blade". I understood the phenomenal world to comprise just its cutting edge. The blades ripped through my, and the world's, cellar floor and would form into people or concepts as they neared contact. I understood myself to be a passenger of its teeth.

What you're talking about might just be a variation of the gravity phenomenon though. It's hard to tell. In other words, the gravity sensation undulates instead of remaining focused to one side or whatever--so you have a feeling of going up and down on a Ferris Wheel or a roller coaster.

I've thought about getting 100X and extracting the salvinorin A with IPA and then insufflating it. It would be fairly pure using 100x. I know salvinorin A isn't water soluble, but water insoluble DMT freebase has effects when insufflated. Might be worth a try. Otherwise 5 or 10x is plenty for smoking.

 

[EntheoDjinn]

Fairground Attraction!

i'm interested in this ferris wheel, could you guys describe this sensation?

Well this is how it is for me. Many years ago when I was a teenager, I went with my brother to an amusement park where they had the biggest Ferris Wheel I have ever seen. We went onto it. Now in those days (the good old days ) there weren't very good safety bars - just a single bar in front of you which you could easily slide under. The only thing that kept you in if you were heading down the way was how tightly you could hang on to the bar (well that's how it seemed). I remember being pertified every time the bench seat came over the top and the seat swang so that we were facing down to the ground for a few moments. I was literally hanging on for dear life

Well, Salvia gives me that feeling of being just over the top and heading downwards - except the feeling just stays at that point. There is the sensation of "falling over" constantly, but also curiously of not going anywhere.

That's the best I can describe it. I thought it was something particular to me and my experience (e.g. Salvia causing a regressive memory of fear) until I noticed a few other folks mentioning it.

The reason I figured out it might be a flashback was because my Salvia experiences always take me back to my childhood.

Curiouser and curiouser 8)

 

[MattPsy]

I've vaporised pure salvinorin A.
It is, to put it mildly, quite crazy =/ . Not something i'll be doing again without very careful preparation for it.

Went through complete mental deconstruction over the period of milliseconds, seeing everything from seemingly infinite splittings of the multiverse (multiple timelines, etc) all represented by probabilistic factors.
It was more brutal than 5-MeO-DMT, and that's really saying something =/ .

 

[squerll]

…Farris wheels and amusement park rides. I have never been on a Farris wheel with Salvia but I have been on lots of similar things, trains, conveyor belts ect.
My theory on the on the carnival rides is. On saliva most people get to a certain point reality comes apart and turns in to random repeating patterns with a gravitational pull. At that point reality comes apart and people try to label “it” and make sense of it with their brain so they put labels on the patterns like train, conveyer belt, roller coaster, farris wheel, ect. I think carnivals and circus are a popular theme because that is about the only thing from planet earth that we can relate that kind of strange experience to.

This is just a theory I have, I would like to hear others if people have any?

Every time on my entrance to Salvialand reality rips apart and I get the revolving repeating patterns, I have been on trips where I didn’t go all the way though and just stayed at the carnival ride place and a lot of trips where reality fell apart even further and I went all the way beyond deeper into Salvialand.

I have smoked 100x quite a few times 9mgs takes me to Salvialand, one medium hit lay back and hold on. It is the same trip as 20x or 40X you just don’t have to choke down 3 or 4 hits. 100x is probably a little faster because you are getting the chemical in your lungs in about 40 seconds instead of 300 seconds. I have smoked pure salvinorin A before 2mgs it felt like I didn’t get a hit and I thought I didn’t get enough but then it hit me and I knew I got it.. Pure Salvia is too hard to measure and use. I like 100x because you can taste it and you know you got a good hit from the taste but it is not too much smoke that it burns your lungs out. But you *need good scales* to play with stuff like that.
I actually wrote a trip report on 100X a few months ago. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=326365&highlight=100x


I did Salvia every week for about a year and during the last part it got to crazy and scary so I am taking a long break from it. I was getting to deep and it was too much to handle and too much to experience. Maybe after a few years of integrating I will go back and see what is further but I don’t know, I have seen enough for now.

 

[EntheoDjinn]

…......I did Salvia every week for about a year and during the last part it got to crazy and scary so I am taking a long break from it. I was getting to deep and it was too much to handle and too much to experience. Maybe after a few years of integrating I will go back and see what is further but I don’t know, I have seen enough for now.

Any chance you could summarise what was happening that made you pull back Squerll?

BTW, not sure if I can identify with the fairground/circus thing. The Ferris wheel was just the closest thing I could think of to describe the feeling. Having said that, I read somewhere that a common motif with the DMT experience was of a carnival roundabout (the kind with horses on it). Never tried DMT, but I think I read it in Strassman's book.

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[delta_9]

Seems unnecessary to me. I tried 5x on a few occasions and I brokethrough and was perfectly satisfied.

 

[squerll]

Any chance you could summarise what was happening that made you pull back Squerll?
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It is hard to put into words but I will try.
I think what scares me the most about it is the loss of my soul on Salvia; it always makes me feel strange and uncomfortable. The whole feel of Salvia is strange like being possessed by something; I would always have that feeling of something is here watching me so strong!

The more I did Salvia the more awareness I would get in that state, similar to most psychedelic drugs, after too much it seemed very intense and it felt bad like maybe my mind is not ready or should not see these things. Salvia will show you a lot of things you don’t want to see. It was like going to a new place the more you are there the more things you realize about it.

I love break though experiences but Saliva is the most difficult one I have ever experienced by far. Stuff like 5-meo-dmt is very intense and will blast you in to nothingness but you still have a sprit or a soul when you come out of the void. On Salvia you come out of the void with no soul no identity you are a nothing, it is scarier then losing your life, you are losing your soul.
I know a lot of people will say things like “you just need to let go of your ego” blablabla Whatever.
It is a teacher plant and it has taught me a lot of things probably more then my mind can digest at this point of my life.

 

[Ugster]

I don't know if i'd ever want to do 100x, the cost alone would be enough to deter me... that said, 15x was enough for me. I broke through and the whole experience, while definitely pretty crazy, just had this "evil" feel to it which settle well with me. The physical side effects kinda annoyed me too.

 

[Buckey]

I smoked 20x once and that was the only time I've ever done it. The feeling that you get when you come down is the most uncomfortable I've ever felt and I could only imagine what 100x has got to be like.

 

[SanGaz]

i'm interested in this ferris wheel, could you guys describe this sensation??

is it a visual ferris wheel effect, or a sensation of circiularly oriented movement?

I literally rotate just as on a ferris wheel through the present dimension into salvia world and the same in reverse when coming down off it then 'pop' through the ceiling onto my bed again.

 

[MrLeading]

i had no idea it came in such high strains. the two times i tried it were amazing. 40x both times. the first time i was wasted out of my mind and i split and bong of it with my friend. due to the alcohol in my system the salvia seemed to last a lot longer than it should have (peak for 20 mins/aftereffects for a good 45 mins.) the second time it was with a group of 4 people. with each person it felt as though i could control their actions as easily as it was to control my own actions (lifting my arm, walking around, ect) it upset me very much when i was trying to make my friend dan walk around it he wasnt. luckily the trip started to wear off right when i started getting upset that my "powers" werent working.

 

[psood0nym]

I literally rotate just as on a ferris wheel through the present dimension into salvia world and the same in reverse when coming down off it then 'pop' through the ceiling onto my bed again.

Facinating. I did this exactly only the bed was against the wall, so I was rolling up against it. It only happened once when I used salvia 10X on top of ayahuasca. I perceived more than 3 spatial dimensions and it struck me that the only way to move through this higher dimensional space was by rotating in place. By rotating in place, I symbolically understood my body to be repeatedly passing through the same point in 3 dimensions but to be moving "linearly" through higher spatial dimensions. I never experienced anything like it on salvia alone though, and I understand you're probably using "dimension" in its "tangential world" sense. I think DMT is required for higher spatial perception, but salvia seems to facilitate it even on low doses of DMT. In fact, I've only experienced it with the combo, unlike others who have with DMT alone during smoking sessions.

 

[Op8's]

it has to be amazing Salvia 100X.... wow!!!

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

Because most people in the US are lazy and it can be harder to obtain enough bulk salvia to do the extractions in other countries.

Americans are not lazy! thats a gross misconception and stereotype, did you know the average U.S citizen will......egh my favorite t.v. show is on, ill get at you after my nap.

 

[skahead17]

im done with Salvia. my last experience with it was HORRIBLE.

i had just gotten to college this year and meeting new people and hanging with new friends for the first times. so there are these 2 semi-cool girls i know now but at the time i didnt know them at all, and they have these stupid fucking overly exaggerated laughs. its actually really annoying. so when i hit this 20X salvia i was drunk which was prolly the first mistake. and from tripping hard i feel into a laying down position on the couch i was sitting on into my friend J's lap. but then i saw girl C with the really annoying laugh and she appeared to be crying hysterically. i thought i had sexually violated her and had no clue what i was doing. i tried to sanp outta of it but NO WAY was that happening. so i stood up trying to say sorry and compose myself. My friend P tried to get me to calm down, but in Salvia land i thought he was trying to fight me. i felt a whack to my head and back and severe pain in my back. and my friend P standing over me like he wanted me to get up and fight him. i thought my great friend P was beating me up cause i "touched" C inappropriatley. i erupted into screaming stop stop stop. and then when it all wore off they told me what happened. they were just laughing hysterically cause they were tripping as well. and i randomly did a flip over the coffee table and whacked my back against the fireplace. thats what the pain was and my friend P was trying to help me up but i thought he was hitting me. Fuck it NEVER again. i did it a shit ton of times when i first started using substances about 2 years ago. but now im past Salvia and somewhat i think its lame, but i used to have alot of fun with it id say.

I think that i have a good reason for being done with this drug

and by the way SCREW 100X, 10x was always a mind blowing experience, an 15x and then 20x were over the fucking top with too much paranoia, and sense of something being wrong.

 

[therapture]

Terrible preparations, terrible set and setting. Sorry to say, you did it to yourself.

im done with Salvia. my last experience with it was HORRIBLE.

i had just gotten to college this year and meeting new people and hanging with new friends for the first times. so there are these 2 semi-cool girls i know now but at the time i didnt know them at all, and they have these stupid fucking overly exaggerated laughs. its actually really annoying. so when i hit this 20X salvia i was drunk which was prolly the first mistake. and from tripping hard i feel into a laying down position on the couch i was sitting on into my friend J's lap. but then i saw girl C with the really annoying laugh and she appeared to be crying hysterically. i thought i had sexually violated her and had no clue what i was doing. i tried to sanp outta of it but NO WAY was that happening. so i stood up trying to say sorry and compose myself. My friend P tried to get me to calm down, but in Salvia land i thought he was trying to fight me. i felt a whack to my head and back and severe pain in my back. and my friend P standing over me like he wanted me to get up and fight him. i thought my great friend P was beating me up cause i "touched" C inappropriatley. i erupted into screaming stop stop stop. and then when it all wore off they told me what happened. they were just laughing hysterically cause they were tripping as well. and i randomly did a flip over the coffee table and whacked my back against the fireplace. thats what the pain was and my friend P was trying to help me up but i thought he was hitting me. Fuck it NEVER again. i did it a shit ton of times when i first started using substances about 2 years ago. but now im past Salvia and somewhat i think its lame, but i used to have alot of fun with it id say.

I think that i have a good reason for being done with this drug

and by the way SCREW 100X, 10x was always a mind blowing experience, an 15x and then 20x were over the fucking top with too much paranoia, and sense of something being wrong.

 

[Osbie Feel]

The only possible use I can imagine for 100x salvia would be for sublingual dosing.

Anyone tried it this way? Could be interesting ...

 

[chemanthony]

Fuck 60x is about too much for me.

I did the bargain shopper thing and bought 10x, 20x 40x and 60x (2 grams of each) I decided to jump straight into the 60x for some un-goddly reason. I'd done it several time prior to this so I thought I'd be fine. I was wrong. More wrong than I had ever been about using an excessive dose of anything.

 

[bluedolphin]

Facinating. I did this exactly only the bed was against the wall, so I was rolling up against it. It only happened once when I used salvia 10X on top of ayahuasca. I perceived more than 3 spatial dimensions and it struck me that the only way to move through this higher dimensional space was by rotating in place. By rotating in place, I symbolically understood my body to be repeatedly passing through the same point in 3 dimensions but to be moving "linearly" through higher spatial dimensions. I never experienced anything like it on salvia alone though, and I understand you're probably using "dimension" in its "tangential world" sense. I think DMT is required for higher spatial perception, but salvia seems to facilitate it even on low doses of DMT. In fact, I've only experienced it with the combo, unlike others who have with DMT alone during smoking sessions.

I have experienced what I remember to be almost exactly like you describe.

Only it was plain leaf with no DMT mixed in. But then again my reverse-tolerance to Salvia is pretty well accumilated I suppose. I find the plain leaf to be very intense these days!