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Salvia - somewhat experenced - Too alien for comfort

Ghettotastic_bong

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I'm a fairly experienced salvia user, having had smoked it at least 5-6 times prior to this experence. It's been at least 3-4 months since the last time i used salvia, and i was excited to give the drug another try. In previous attempts, i would relate the salvia trip akin to being in a fun house. Everything is distorted and your understanding between reality and fantasy gets blurred and you aren't entirely sure what to make of your surroundings

For this experence, i tried a different setting, deciding my back yard would be an ideal place to smoke a fairly sizable bowl of salvia. This time, i decided to use my trusty, albeit likely carcinogenic homemade bong, constructed from an aluminium foil-based bowl (Please, no lectures about the health issues resulting from inhaled aluminiumfoil, i'm well aware of the risks and do not use it often). Walking into the backyard, i sat down in the still slightly-damp lawn chair, and proceeded to take the first hit. As i slowly breathed in, i started to feel odd random twitches, first in my neck, and then in my legs. As i let go of the first hit and inhaled the second, a strange sensation came over me. It felt as if my bong were trying to trick me into smoking more, and by instinct reaction, hurled the bong to the ground.

I then looked straight ahead at my house and suffered intense lilliputian hallucination The entire concept of size melted away, and everything (seemingly randomly) was given a certain size. I am most certaintly at a solid +++ at this point. All of a sudden, a force came over me, causing my head to turn abruptly to the right side, and down towards the garden behind me. The large wooden planks that sseparatethe different sections of the garden seemed to gain a personality of their own. The planks, which are raised aat leasta foot above the rest of the garden, melted into the dirt, and for a moment, was ienslavedby them. Now, another force pulled my head forward again, causing my gaze to shift upon the ground. On the ground appeared many spinning glowing platforms. At this point, i felt trapped into another universe. All of the forces around me were again trying to "trick" me into staying in this state. Ssuddenlyremembering an old erowid ttrip sittingguide, the idea of having your feet in solid contact with the ground was a good way to calm people down from a powerful trip. I began to run my bare feet through the cool wet grass, and ccontinueddoing so until my reality became more mmanageable I did this for perhaps one or two minutes, and then gazing at the house in front of me, realized i had some down from an extremely intense trip.

Overall, salvia is so dramatically different from any other psychedelic i have ever used due to it's utterly alien feeling. With psilocybin/LSD, there's an element of understanding, an emotional attachment to your fantasy world. With salvia, there's nothing. No strong emotions, just the feeling of being trapped in a bizarre fun house. I don't find salvia especially fun, and really don't see any reason to want to use it again.

(edit: The spellcheck screwed up somewhat badly, elimating the space after the word and doubled the first letter. Admin, is this a known problem?)
 
Oh phew, I just thought all those double letters was the acid talking ;) What browser are you using to access Bluelight?
 
I agree, Salvia isn't worth it.

I would be very curious to read a trip report written from the position of a positive breakthrough experience: what did you feel, what gifts did the smoke leave you with?

I am almost convinced that people who have positive experiences on Salvia just haven't broke through to that psychotic place it took me, and you apparently (and I didn't even breakthrough?). If the shaman who cultivated this drug learned from it what did it teach them? I am inexperienced with Salvia but when I broke though it invaded me and messed with space and time like it was having fun humiliating me.

I am tempted to buy the liquid extract and see if I can experience a meaningful encounter with the Salvia spirits but I have read too many trip reports about demonic forces unleashed for me to want to take the risk.

That said, some of the Erowid trip reports on DMT left me afraid to breakthrough DMT, which I had been primed to try. Maybe I'm just a lightweight when it comes to exploring these consciousness enhancing drugs but I think I'm sticking with mushrooms, because they leave me with feelings I can deal with, positive emotions and insights I can call profound.
 
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nicnicnic said:
I would be very curious to read a trip report written from the position of a positive breakthrough experience: what did you feel, what gifts did the smoke leave you with?

Last night, my friend.
After inhaling all of the 10x I waited until I could start feeling the strong gravity that I could not surpass earlier. I reached out for the nitrous and started inhaling to the best of my ability. The world began molding into a mosiac. Everything was made of these triangles and the world was two dimensional. I had visited this two dimensional world earlier in light salvia trips. I felt the presence of the triangle creatures and the world popped back into three dimensions. I was now in a small room, sitting elevated. It was very bright and with wooded patterns on the sides. I sat in this world, realizing that I had been pulled out of my life by a being that had created the universe. Being and atheist I was stunned. I knew that my life was gone. I would never see another human. I would never go to school again. I would never live again. It made me nervous but I also felt very intridgued, like I was about to communicate with this great creature. I felt like I had been in there at least 10 minutes, contemplating what I'd say and getting over the fact that I was about to meet death. The room began to change to a plaid design which came from the designs on my friends shirts. They were pulled into the room and they were staring at me. I all of a sudden had a realization that these were three important characters, ones I had never met but known of. They were very foreign to me and I felt somewhat intimidated by them. In my mind they were a magical group led by Rentendo. I was very dissapointed that I was leaving my old life and sorrow began to fill me. I looked at each of them and said "You're magical" just to prove that I knew what they were. I looked back and saw a floating foam hat that said Magic Hat on it. I read that and thought "What the fuck kind of world is this?" and I said "Magic hat" and bursted into laughter. The "gods" and I were deep in laughter for what seemed ten minutes. I began to remember that I had taken a drug but I could not get over the fact that I had faced death. Everything still felt extremely foreign to me but my mind was being filled with thoughts from my true life. I just accepted the fact and worked as hard as I could to come back.

Us three, smoked each about 2 bowls plain leaf salvia, along with the nitrous oxide. One smoke-intolerent friend noticed great size distortions, one merely felt out of it and that life was shifted, and I happened to trip mildly, eventually standing up on the chair, dancing and bouncing, jumping on top of the couch, balancing nervously (as they'd seen), leaping off onto the cement (they thought I was going head first), landing, running, turning around, and slipping, falling onto the cement. My friend (above), luckily, got above me and held me down for about 30 seconds. Good person. He asked me "What's 7 times 9??"

"It's 56!!"

"No it isn't!!"

"I mean... it's 63!"

*lets me go*

"I never was good at those numbers."




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It's fascinating that the themes "entrapment", "enslavement", and "funhouse" are so often associated with Salvia trips.

Once on a powerful Salvia trip my body turned into plant-eyes, all of which were clearly slaves to the "Shadow God" (I never saw Salvia as a female entity).

Indeed this stuff is strange enough to make me wonder how many realities there actually are...
 
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