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Salvia- not very exp- Green carpet creature terror

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Last night I took 20mg of ambien, which does nothing besides relax me some due to tolerance. I had planned on taking some then doing salvia, because I am very hesitant to do salvia sober. I have done it less than 10 times over the past few years but never really had a breakthrough, just strangeness and sometimes a little bit of fear.

I am not sure exactly what happened and am still a little, disturbed by it. What I do know is, I took 2 large hits out of my glass pipe and kind of got pulled to the side. I laid on the couch as something intense was ripping me out of reality like Velcro coming undone. I could even hear a Velcro-like noise.

Then I was in a dreamlike state, or nightmare state to be more accurate. Like a dream because events happened randomly without the linear time dimension and it was very visual. I have a foggy gapped memory of what went on but will do my best.

I saw my whole room change into something else. I don’t know if I closed my eyes or not but my vision became of a huge green carpet, taking up all dimensions of a room and more. There were hand-like creatures that were ripping through from the back of the carpet, from another reality, making Velcro ripping sounds. They were invading and coming through by the dozens. They were composed of skin like tubes and thumb looking objects, like really long fingers on a hand that was behind the carpet. I had a dreaded sense that this was really happening and wasn’t unusual, I had lived in green carpet land all my life. I didn’t know what I was anymore. I have the feeling voices were talking to me or getting a message to me by some non-language means.

Then I became very paranoid. Perhaps my mind was fighting back. I saw a very distorted view of my room, which was probably imagined with my eyes closed or intensely hallucinated either way. Three dark men were coming through the door and were going to bust me or attack me. Even though I saw their shadows it didn’t fully register that it was happening at that exact time, it was just something that was going to happen very soon. I’m pretty sure I ran to my kitchen to hide then decided that was useless so I went back and laid on my bed. Then my phone vibrated and I thought that it was related to the shadow men about to come for real. But it wasn’t and recognizing the number as a friend made me feel relieved although I didn’t answer it. I was just finding myself after probably 5 or 10 minutes of fear and intense loss of reality.

I got on the computer and had a hard time typing. I felt the salvia still kicking strong but fading. I ended up going to bed soon after and having very odd dreams about being at a prison that was to be bombed and that I was going to try and outrun the fireball but then ducked down and accepted death as the bomb ripped me apart.

I definitely want to experiment again; my memory is possibly compromised some by the ambien. I will probably get a sitter though since the fear mixed with reality loss was a lot to handle without moving around.
 
I always find it hard to accurately describe what I've experienced on Salvia.

It's as if my mind is desperately searching its database to apply something relevant to the trip, and in the process produces a slightly skewed view of things.

I've heard of the Velcro feeling and "noise" referenced in a few trips, though I've never actually experienced anything like it.

Intriguing.

Nice report.
 
I've never experienced anything like that, but my friends have said they felt as if their world was being torn in two.
 
^^^
There seems to be theme with salvia about divisions and multiples...i.e. things being split in two or duplicated etc.

Good report, I hope that it's a happier experience next time.
 
Well, as always I enjoyed your report, Hiss.

There is absolutely no point trying to understand a salvia experience.

Just roll with it and smoke some more. Doing it on any sort of depressant is a waste imo. Much more fun, much less scary, but a waste.
 
i've had tryptamine evenings where you randomly hear velcro ripping sounds out of seemingly nowhere, just roll with it, otherwise you twig yourself out thinking about it .
 
good report. i too find when im in the depths of a salvia trip that what i am experiencing is the norm and has been that way as long as i can remember. whats wierd is you know its strange and uncomfortable but still it feels like it has been that way for ever.
 
nativenick said:
good report. i too find when im in the depths of a salvia trip that what i am experiencing is the norm and has been that way as long as i can remember. whats wierd is you know its strange and uncomfortable but still it feels like it has been that way for ever.

yes, this is definitely a quality of salvia.
 
i get the same feeling from salvia that what I'm going through is what I should be going through. It seems normal. When you come down, you kind of have to patch and restructure neurons to get back to the life you have convinced yourself is reality.

You have to be a fool to say there is no reason to try to explain a trip. To put things into language is to better understand them. And don't say that language is just another barrier to understanding because of its inherent shortcomings, because language also exists in the world of salvia tripping. If we don't seek to understand salvia and share our understandings with others, we are merely bastardizing the intent of the indians who we discovered the plant from.
 
Salvia is one hell of a trip for sure.. When you fall into water HEHE =D
 
divinorum said:
did you literally fall into water? i think i'd probably drown for sure 8o

The first time was ok i guess, then around 10 minutes later we try it again . My friend was holding the bong while i was pffing , What i remember is falling into water, I was in a car and couldnt feel the car or such.
 
the thing about multiples is talked about extensively in
Mescal and Mechanisms of Hallucinations
by
Heinrich Kluver originally published in 1928

multiples is itemized as one of the 3 basic effects of mescalein

(personally I think it applies to all psychedelics and and may be the most significant experiential evidence supporting holographic processing and extended fading of signals by psychedelic in the brain - aside from memory persistence after surgery)

http://www.erowid.org/library/books/mescal_and_mechanisms.shtml
 
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