therapture
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Let me start by saying I am experienced with the psychoactives. LSD mainly (although it has been years), good hydro smoke, occasional rolls, but more recently, shroomies. The mushies blew me away in a good way and I WILL be visiting them again...but this stuff was quantitatively different....
I first tried salvia a week ago, with a good trusted friend of mine in another town. I don't believe in halfway doing anything, so I wanted to hit a level 4-5 my first time, and I research something quite intensely before I try it, so I was quite prepared for my journeys. We had some 20x, a reputable brand, 1 gram. We used a one hitter w/ @1/12 of a gram and got some good (but very short) sessions in which we were kind of trapped between the physical world and the inner mind. Never quite left reality completely, as we had expected to do. So somewhat under-whelmed, I decided to try it again last night. This time I had a water bong, filled it with pretty warm tap water, drank a 16 ounce beer to soothe me a bit (I was excited somewhat).
I am not a cig smoker, so taking deeeeep rips is pretty hard for me, so I went a 1-2 approach, loaded up a 1/10 gram dose in the cone, and took a good medium rip. Held for 20 seconds, then grabbed and cleared the rest of the dose. I held that for...as long as I could...felt like about, maybe 15 seconds....then reality as I knew it, was gone
as a hard pull from the right side took me...out of this world.
I was completely at home feeling, very comfortable, sitting on a canal edge of stone, looking out across some water, a deep blue sky, with rolling green grass all over the far side. There were some "entities", maybe people, maybe something else, sitting to my front quarter, speaking to me, although I do not know what they were telling me, but I was not threatened, or in any manner feel in danger. My entire right side of my body was part of something else, not a wall, but like a plasma divider between this world I was in and somewhere else. My right leg was the defining part of fusion to this plasma, and when I tried to move my leg out of it, it was part of my leg, and seemed to stretch out a bit, and I had the feeling I could not be seperate from this plasma, but not in a bad way. I was looking around this environment the salvia had created for me, and what seemed like about 5 minutes had passed, when I was starting to feel something changing, another pull to somewhere else, and I started hallucinating within this dream world (which seemed like the real world) and my friend's faces started to appear in my vision, then a corner of a room faded in, and I realized my canal/water world was being ripped away, although to my right side, in a curving fashion, this plasma was still in existence, and I thought "what the FUCK is happening!" as I was coming out. As the room materialized more and more, I was dragged away, feeling confused as to why I was in this situation, again, I said out loud, "what the FUCK"....I was sitting in my chair, leaned way back, as the dream left me almost completely. At that point I started to remember I had smoked some salvia, and I was trying to speak to my friends/sitters, to tell them my story. I was completely sweaty, even my shirt had sweat spots all over. They said the entire time I was out, I was leaning back, my hands cupping my face, and mumbling a few words here and there, for a little over 4 minutes, then another minute of semi-conscious confusion as I transitioned back to this existence.
Oh my god, I had broken through sooo much more than the previous weekend! Incredibly intense and way more powerful! I took a few minutes to think about the event, sip some water, and about 15 minutes later I was ready to re-enter the salvia domain again.
This time I went to the living room and set on a soft sofa, lights very dim, with some trancy techno rap in the background. Again, I used the same method above, 2 good medium rips about 20 secs apart, using a 1/10g dose, and WHAM, this time I went so fast I don't know where the transition even occured! My sitters were on my left on another sofa, a tv to my right with something playing. I entered a realm of spherical plasma, like sitting inside a ball, seeing the curves wrap around me. The surface of this plasma was almost featherlike, or scale like, multi colored and fascinating complexity in texture. My sitters were entities, fused into the left side of this sphere, my body again was fused from the entire right side into this plasma sphere, sharing that side with the tv which was like a window into this plasma. I heard a voice speaking to me from far away, almost a chant, telling me it was ok, this was a good place. I assume it was the music in the background. I spent a couple minutes looking and exploring this sphere, and trying to move away, out of the plasma, was futile, it was PART of me, or I was part of it. Then some smoother daggerlike projections started to grow out of the carpet and right side of this speherical world, like grass growing, and were actually filling up the space, as I started coming out of my dream. I ended almost abruptly, seemingly in a matter of seconds, and I was back in the living room, still a bit mind muddled, and laying on my right side. My sitters told me I had laid over to my side almost immediately after the second rip, and just laid there in complete silence and stillness!
I took a third session, same amount as before, and to tell you the truth, I remember very little of it. At that point I decided to try to integrate my experiences, and save the salvia for another night. I had an incredibly deep and ego shattering travel, and I want to respect this plant, not abuse it. Going level 4 and 5 all three times was....incredibly and deeply moving to my inner mind, and it is hard to tell someone what you feel. To know something incredibly more powerful and wider, than what our normally feeble minds can experience, is just a paradigm shattering event!
To smoke salvia and leave this world, and on the other side you are not even aware that you smoked salvia, because that other side is so real, intense, and powerful, then the feelings that when you start to re-enter this world, that somehow the world you were were in is more real than this one...in some way.
Questions are asked of me....why are the earth growing psychoactives so powerful, unique, and ego shattering? Considering psilocybin mushrooms grow natural and are so unique in comparision to the sheer numbers of other fungi, that salvia also grows in the dirt as a form of sage, unique in it's own right, there is something going on here we can't see. I have no need for any man made chemicals any longer, X does not even attract me any longer, drinking has become so less of a pasttime, and things like coke and what not, no thanks.
I had lost faith in organized religion a while back, but I know, something, someone, is out there, that a higher form does exist, and that I want to go there again. I have no fear of death, I believe there is another side, call it whatever you want. There IS something beyond the mundane human experience. I live my life as decently as I can, take care of my family, enjoy it, knowing that lthis life will not end meaningless.
I first tried salvia a week ago, with a good trusted friend of mine in another town. I don't believe in halfway doing anything, so I wanted to hit a level 4-5 my first time, and I research something quite intensely before I try it, so I was quite prepared for my journeys. We had some 20x, a reputable brand, 1 gram. We used a one hitter w/ @1/12 of a gram and got some good (but very short) sessions in which we were kind of trapped between the physical world and the inner mind. Never quite left reality completely, as we had expected to do. So somewhat under-whelmed, I decided to try it again last night. This time I had a water bong, filled it with pretty warm tap water, drank a 16 ounce beer to soothe me a bit (I was excited somewhat).
I am not a cig smoker, so taking deeeeep rips is pretty hard for me, so I went a 1-2 approach, loaded up a 1/10 gram dose in the cone, and took a good medium rip. Held for 20 seconds, then grabbed and cleared the rest of the dose. I held that for...as long as I could...felt like about, maybe 15 seconds....then reality as I knew it, was gone
as a hard pull from the right side took me...out of this world.I was completely at home feeling, very comfortable, sitting on a canal edge of stone, looking out across some water, a deep blue sky, with rolling green grass all over the far side. There were some "entities", maybe people, maybe something else, sitting to my front quarter, speaking to me, although I do not know what they were telling me, but I was not threatened, or in any manner feel in danger. My entire right side of my body was part of something else, not a wall, but like a plasma divider between this world I was in and somewhere else. My right leg was the defining part of fusion to this plasma, and when I tried to move my leg out of it, it was part of my leg, and seemed to stretch out a bit, and I had the feeling I could not be seperate from this plasma, but not in a bad way. I was looking around this environment the salvia had created for me, and what seemed like about 5 minutes had passed, when I was starting to feel something changing, another pull to somewhere else, and I started hallucinating within this dream world (which seemed like the real world) and my friend's faces started to appear in my vision, then a corner of a room faded in, and I realized my canal/water world was being ripped away, although to my right side, in a curving fashion, this plasma was still in existence, and I thought "what the FUCK is happening!" as I was coming out. As the room materialized more and more, I was dragged away, feeling confused as to why I was in this situation, again, I said out loud, "what the FUCK"....I was sitting in my chair, leaned way back, as the dream left me almost completely. At that point I started to remember I had smoked some salvia, and I was trying to speak to my friends/sitters, to tell them my story. I was completely sweaty, even my shirt had sweat spots all over. They said the entire time I was out, I was leaning back, my hands cupping my face, and mumbling a few words here and there, for a little over 4 minutes, then another minute of semi-conscious confusion as I transitioned back to this existence.
Oh my god, I had broken through sooo much more than the previous weekend! Incredibly intense and way more powerful! I took a few minutes to think about the event, sip some water, and about 15 minutes later I was ready to re-enter the salvia domain again.
This time I went to the living room and set on a soft sofa, lights very dim, with some trancy techno rap in the background. Again, I used the same method above, 2 good medium rips about 20 secs apart, using a 1/10g dose, and WHAM, this time I went so fast I don't know where the transition even occured! My sitters were on my left on another sofa, a tv to my right with something playing. I entered a realm of spherical plasma, like sitting inside a ball, seeing the curves wrap around me. The surface of this plasma was almost featherlike, or scale like, multi colored and fascinating complexity in texture. My sitters were entities, fused into the left side of this sphere, my body again was fused from the entire right side into this plasma sphere, sharing that side with the tv which was like a window into this plasma. I heard a voice speaking to me from far away, almost a chant, telling me it was ok, this was a good place. I assume it was the music in the background. I spent a couple minutes looking and exploring this sphere, and trying to move away, out of the plasma, was futile, it was PART of me, or I was part of it. Then some smoother daggerlike projections started to grow out of the carpet and right side of this speherical world, like grass growing, and were actually filling up the space, as I started coming out of my dream. I ended almost abruptly, seemingly in a matter of seconds, and I was back in the living room, still a bit mind muddled, and laying on my right side. My sitters told me I had laid over to my side almost immediately after the second rip, and just laid there in complete silence and stillness!
I took a third session, same amount as before, and to tell you the truth, I remember very little of it. At that point I decided to try to integrate my experiences, and save the salvia for another night. I had an incredibly deep and ego shattering travel, and I want to respect this plant, not abuse it. Going level 4 and 5 all three times was....incredibly and deeply moving to my inner mind, and it is hard to tell someone what you feel. To know something incredibly more powerful and wider, than what our normally feeble minds can experience, is just a paradigm shattering event!
To smoke salvia and leave this world, and on the other side you are not even aware that you smoked salvia, because that other side is so real, intense, and powerful, then the feelings that when you start to re-enter this world, that somehow the world you were were in is more real than this one...in some way.
Questions are asked of me....why are the earth growing psychoactives so powerful, unique, and ego shattering? Considering psilocybin mushrooms grow natural and are so unique in comparision to the sheer numbers of other fungi, that salvia also grows in the dirt as a form of sage, unique in it's own right, there is something going on here we can't see. I have no need for any man made chemicals any longer, X does not even attract me any longer, drinking has become so less of a pasttime, and things like coke and what not, no thanks.
I had lost faith in organized religion a while back, but I know, something, someone, is out there, that a higher form does exist, and that I want to go there again. I have no fear of death, I believe there is another side, call it whatever you want. There IS something beyond the mundane human experience. I live my life as decently as I can, take care of my family, enjoy it, knowing that lthis life will not end meaningless.
