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Salvia - Inexperienced - My Friend's Death

therapture

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I'll start by stating my good friend has never had a hallucinogen stronger than a hit or two of X along with some regular weed use. He saw another common friend have a bad trip on it, and was a bit scared of it at first. After a couple beers and some mild weed smoking, he was relaxed and decided to try a small amount. He thought he wanted to "get his feet wet" and feel the pull without entering salvia space. Boy, was he wrong...


I had some honest 20x, and I spooned out ~1/12g into the bong. He totally vaporized it and got it all down, and held it for ~15 seconds before losing about half of it, then another 5 seconds he exhaled. He was relaxed though, and the salvia gravity got him! I saw his face change as he leaned back in his chair, and I knew he was going big. He laid back like that with hands crossed for a little less than 2 minutes, at which point he seemed to come awake and looked directly at me. He mumbled something completely unintelligible, but it sounded like a question. He then closed his eyes and shook his head a bit, like he was confused. Then he leaned forward with eyes opened, and stared directly into my eyes for a few seconds, then he asked me "are you ready to take me yet?" completely stone faced and serious. I told him no we were not going anywhere. He then asked me "have you taken my mom and jamie yet?" (jamie is his girlfriend). Again, I told him no. Then he procceded to look at his thumb and try to peel some loose skin from it, and was saying "this is my life, the skin layers are my life, and I am a layer on my dad's hand". At this point I knew he was really out there, he was completely ensconced in salvia space and was believing his trip 100%. He asked me "is this when I am supposed to try and run?" and again I told him no, you don't need to run, we aren't going anywhere. Then he said, "oh ok, are we leaving after this song is over?" and again, I told him were were going to listen to more music. This portion had gone on for about 4-5 minutes, and he asked me "did I smoke something?" seeming like he wasn't sure what had transpired to get him into this place. He still did not realize the salvia had taken him there. After a couple more minutes he was back into the reality, but confused because he still did not know he had smoked salvia, but a couple minutes more and he remembered. He relaxed a bit, then drank a few sips of a cold beer I had gotten for him. He then explained to me that he recognixed me in his trip, and thought that I had given him something to get him ready to leave! As in LEAVE THIS WORLD, he thought I was an undertaker of some sort, (his words) that was come to take him to heaven or hell!!!! He thought that he was at the "end of everything" and had died. In his trip world, he saw me, but the room around us was not there, we were in a plasma like existence with no form or linear functions. A void, if you will. The intense concentration as he looked/stared unblinking, into my eyes, was almost...primal...and I think we connected at some deep level. He trusted me implicitly, still thinking I was "death" come to take him. I was only 15 minutes out of my own salvia trip and it was an experience I won't forget ever!!!

After recovering fully, we talked a bit, and he was dumbfounded at how REAL the entire trip felt, his mind was having a hard time figuring out which was the reality and which was salvia induced. It was an amazing experience for him, he did not regret it at all, and stated he would do it with me again as his sitter (he has sat me 2 times before). The next day, he told me he felt as if he was unburdened of a worry, although he wasn't sure what the worry USED to be. I told him he had a complete ego death and saw something beyond our normal human experience. For a person that has never used ANY hallucinogen (other than x, which doesn't compare) in his life, he handled it incredibly well and was simply blown away at a deep level, by how powerful it was, and by how REAL it felt. No matter how many times I explained my trips to him, he had NO IDEA what it was like until he tried it. He understood now what I meant by the "pull" of salvia "gravity" and let it take him instead of fighting it.

Amazing, if only more people could understand this sacrament and use it properly, the world would truly be a better place. Enjoy it while it is legal, because some people with no real clue about what it is and how it SHOULD be used, are going to decide FOR us, that we don't need it.


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Nice report!! I haven't ever had the experience of taking a drug, which in turn gets me so tripped out that I forget I've taken a drug at all.. =D It seems like it would be a pretty confusing place to be in while you're right in the depths of salvia space. Maybe one day....
 
Doooofus said:
Nice report!! I haven't ever had the experience of taking a drug, which in turn gets me so tripped out that I forget I've taken a drug at all.. =D It seems like it would be a pretty confusing place to be in while you're right in the depths of salvia space. Maybe one day....


Being IN the space is not confusing at all as you have no idea it isn't real....it's when the real world starts intruding back into your trip, that the confusion begins. I have tripped so completely that when I started seeing the real world come back to me, overlaid with the end of the trip, that I thought I was tripping inside of the trip! The mind had a hard time figuring out which version of "reality" to believe.
 
therapture said:
The mind had a hard time figuring out which version of "reality" to believe.

salvia space seems more 'real' than any other headspace to me (sober or high, including NDE's and all other peaks and valleys), and i think that's due to it's unique reductive quality, which is just so unfuckwithable!

the infinitely complex universe which our egos have built a house of cards with, is fragmented into seemingly objective little bits. and instead of creating some bogus illusion of unity and harmony, we experience the randomness and chaos which make up the true creative force in nature. i don't want to sound like jeff goldblum in j-park, but i think it's a more realistic 'big picture' than the one you get from euphoric psychs that can often lend a god complex.

this system just seems to accept reality as it is, rather than impose a vision ordained in a moment of false wisdom. and it's liberating in the sense that the impossible task that many of us have assigned ourselves - that of integrating into the 'whole' - goes out the window as we see that there is no 'whole' or 'oneness', no balance / stasis / peace to enter into. and we can take a truly bold step towards accepting our alienation and transience, and abandon our egos legitimately, rather than pretending to via some holy union of 'man and the world'.

just some musings, not intended to hijack your report OP! thx
 
therapture said:
I have tripped so completely that when I started seeing the real world come back to me, overlaid with the end of the trip, that I thought I was tripping inside of the trip! The mind had a hard time figuring out which version of "reality" to believe.
That has happened to me a few times on Salvia. Salvia is the most extreme headfuck I have ever experienced by far.
Cool trip report.
 
therapture said:
The intense concentration as he looked/stared unblinking, into my eyes, was almost...primal...and I think we connected at some deep level. He trusted me implicitly, still thinking I was "death" come to take him.

Very deep, and amazingly worded. Experiences like this strip you down to your base, who you really are inside. The fact that in this state, thinking that he would be dying and still completely accept it and trust you completely shows alot about the type of person he is. Sounds like your friend is a very real, happy, accepting person.

great report.
 
Salvia is straight up fucked man, in my trip i thought that everyone I ever knew was in on this big conspiracy about my life and the universe.. its trippy shit. Everything was cartoon too, I think thats very common cause everyone i tripped with experienced the 2-Dimensional thing too...crazy O_O
 
therapture said:
......The next day, he told me he felt as if he was unburdened of a worry, although he wasn't sure what the worry USED to be...

This, to me, is one of the serious benefits of a breakthrough experience. I had a mad time on tincture - 1.25 hours of first confusion, then terror and then pure joy. But for two months after I had a feeling that I was, in very subtle way, more sorted than I had ever been. More relaxed around people than I had ever been, and I'm usually very relaxed anyway =D

I think there's a powerful, albeit subtle healing power inherent in big Salvia experiences. Pity the "authorities" are blind to the positive effects of entheogens :(
 
EntheoDjinn said:
This, to me, is one of the serious benefits of a breakthrough experience. I had a mad time on tincture - 1.25 hours of first confusion, then terror and then pure joy. But for two months after I had a feeling that I was, in very subtle way, more sorted than I had ever been. More relaxed around people than I had ever been, and I'm usually very relaxed anyway =D

I think there's a powerful, albeit subtle healing power inherent in big Salvia experiences. Pity the "authorities" are blind to the positive effects of entheogens :(


Yes, I feel the same way the day, even as soon as the first couple hours after a salvia session.....freed...unburdened....

I like salvia in the sense that it loosens my mind, that I can explore it, that my ego has it's ass kicked. We all need to let loose of the Ego once in a while.....

I am having a session thursday, with a friend that will be his second trip, and 2 newbies! I am looking forward to it....
 
I've had a similar trip. I decided to smoke some Salvia 10x with some friends in his DARK garage out of a bong. Packed up a large amount and inhaled a large hit. Soon after I fell to the floor and everyone around me turned to black shadow-like people. I couldn't recognize who was who and lost my sense of reality. I thought that they were talking about starting the world over and that they were going to eliminate me and the human race just to start it over again. I saw someone at the top of the stairs looking down at me and I was wondering why they weren't doing anything to try and stop this from happening. I also felt that the ground was moving into the wall (like those things that have at the airports, it's like a flat escalator) and that the wall was moving up and down and getting rid of anything that happened to move under the chomping-like motion of the wall. I had such a difficult time understanding what had happened after the salvia began to wear off. Pretty crazy shit.
 
Nice report ;)

I now want to smoke some salvia!

I've never broke thru and managed to remember enough to be interesting :(
 
I can relate to the song/melody which helped the process of combining/striping/collapsing/transforming fragments of layers...too hard to describe...I also remember others there with me going through the same process.(maybe multiple aspects of myself?)

I felt like i was intertwined in multiple dimensions and having a view of 360 degrees. It also felt like a circus(probably the color schemes and bizarre nature)but also like a ride. I kept feeling like i was being reassured because it was taking me somewhere and not to resist ..which did happen. It felt like some kind of rotating wall but i was part of it.. and it felt as if i got stuck in its layers because i feared what was on the other side..like was i going to be a spectacle for a huge audience..

Anyways it was bizarre yet intriguing atmosphere which helped me clear out my fear because i don't think i can feel as much fear as what i felt there. I smoked a 1/3 gram of 21x and from what i read it was a top level trip. I'm sure if i went back i won't fear it as much and would have a wonderful breakthrough
 
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