Salvia - First Time - Salvia, the Goddess

[C r e a t i o n]

First Trip Report: Salvia (of all things)

**First off let me just hope this wont be a bore.
Today is Wed. the 19th & after cruising around to misc. places with not much to do after cashing my paycheck, I decide to check out the local head shop for the first time. I walked in, made sure to read all the info telling me what 'not' to say and whatnot. And proceeded around inside, checking out the different pipes they had for barter, considering I was looking to get one, as I look over and notice the words Salvia Divinorum.
Somewhat surprised I get excited at the fact they sell it there, considering i've been wanting to try it for quite a while now after having read numerous trip reports on it in the past. So I talk to the lady a little about it (getting the lowdown). I leave ensuring her that I would surely be back sometime if not tonight to try some out. I drive to my cousin's work 3 min. away to use his cell to call up my bud, and told him the situation. We decide to go meet up there in 10 min. Head to the Salvia and make a purchase on the [7x extract, 1 gram, $27].
We head back to another friends place and get his (not used in a year) bong since it's what we had. My bud goes first (with about 2 hits worth), I second (near the same amount). After about his second hit he is giggling short and hard bursts... at the littlest of things. I then proceed to take a hit. Almost immediately after my initial hit I notice a slight optical difference in my perception, and I too have the *bursting giggles*, which were pretty much uncontrollable.
My friend then get's a call and has to leave to pick up his brother and drive him elsewhere, leaving me with my sober friend for the rest of my 'short' experience (thought he's suppose to come back eventually). I screwed around on the computer and conversed with a friend of mine telling her the situation. I did find it rather difficult to type, as I frequently mispelled words, and struggled to concentrate on anything. After about a half hour & expecting more, I was somewhat disappointed from the relatively short experience, thinking the whole time how much better it would be if it lasted longer, and were a little more intense.
As I made a phone call to go pick up some other things at the doctors office, my other friend and I left and continued the evening (with my bud on the way), driving to acquire some fav's.. ultracet...as well as darvocets, and tylenol 3's for good measure... mmm. I then come home and relax a for a little, call my woman, blah and blah.
Now it's been about 2 1/2 hours since smoking the Salvia. And since my female friend told me it's more noticable the second time around, I then decide to try out my makeshift bong dubbed 'tin man' made from a red bull can, duct tape, pen casing, and a wrench socket, knowing I could get a much better hit with much less work (even if I have to turn it to the side so as not to cinge all my hair off, it's so small). Thinking that the poor bong of my friends may have been the problem at the initial smoke session.
I gave the Salvia some heat while I let out my breath, then started with a slow, steady inhale making sure to keep the flame on it to ensure maximum heat. It starts to burn, but I know it's just the product and not a large hit, I keep on it. Take in what appears to be a nice hit (for me). And I hold it in for about 15-20 seconds....exhale.....
This is amazing!, really (unique too).
However still somewhat sober...it was very odd and unusual. I immediatly noticed how perfectly sharp in depth AND color everything has just gotten. I also had my bursting giggles back too. My hearing also appears to be somewhat enhanced. The only way I could describe what I was feeling for these next five minutes is what I will describe as everything "pulling on itself" as I just sit and gaze into nothing. My left hand on my PS2 controller became very sweaty fairly quickly, as my body became mildly cold, I was unable to continue my Tekken. I then turn on my lava lamp I had next to me for visual stimulation ..(too late right??)....wrong! From just the dust on the outside glass alone and looking through to the other side, I was able to see the most amazing things i'm sure I would'nt have noticed on a normal day. I could pick out and draw very detailed 2-3 dimentional images from nothing more than fingerprints and dust on the glass. This 1 hit did more for me just now than 3 hits or so I took off the other bong.
The peak came quick and left quick. They are 2 different items, but I noticed the plain world coming back into view much like that moment of return on ecstasy (this was the only thing I could compare it too for me). After the initial comedown, I still had a steady stream of visuals coming from the lamp. All-in-all it was worth trying once. Will I try it again? If I can afford it, and willing to throw down the cash...certainly. I'm gonna have to perfect the 'technique' of smoking the Salvia.
I would like to know if anyone else refers to Salvia as anything with the word 'Goddess'. It may have been a recollection of a past trip report, but I kept thinking "Salvia, the Goddess".
I still have about 5 hits worth left. So if anyone has any tips feel free to pass them along.
Thanks for reading, hope it was at least, slightly interesting.
[ 20 February 2003: Message edited by: C r e a t i o n ]
[ 20 February 2003: Message edited by: C r e a t i o n ]

 

[NecroTrance]

Use an Native American smoking technique. I've done it with marijuana and got 10x as high. You inhale slowly and fill up your lungs, as much as you can. Then you hold it and lift up your chest. Your trying to get all the smoke in the upper part of your lungs, because that's where all the capilaries are. So, just try to push the smoke in your lungs to the top of your lungs. Hold it as long as you can like that, then, without dropping your chest, exhale in short little bursts and inhale equally. Do like 5 short bursts out, then 5 short bursts in. Do this maybe twice until you feel your lungs getting empty...Then drop your chest and expell your remaining air fast and hard and let your whole body relax, but don't lay down, just hunch your back over and bend at your abs forward, let your head dangle and your arms be limp. I'm pretty sure this will work very well for you. Oh and is Salvia worth it? I've been wanting to try it, but I've heard the trip reports and personally, I think they're all bullshit. However, if it gets you high at all, I'll smoke it. Peace.

 

[nephil]

great report! i enjoyed reading this
salvia is a very testy substance.
I have never tried it yet myself, but from reading and hearing of many different experiences, I must say you are on the right track to finding a full blown salvia experience. I think the best experience comes from mastering the technique.
thanks for sharing

 

[DJ Saiyan]

Alright, I'm going to give you a salvia divinorum dissertation. It is ALL in the method of which you smoke it. If you do it wrong... wrong at ALL, you won't get much more than a giggle fest.
First off, Salvia divinorum is one of the most terrifying and enlightening substances I've ever come across. Sure, I read all the reports and thought it was just too good to be true. To some extent it is true, to some it is not. The effects of Salvia are purely mental.
Nothing I ever experienced was physical. I didn't 'SEE' anything, I just experienced and felt. I felt what it was like to not exist... to not be 'real'. Much like ketamine, salvia takes away your ability to comprehend and it bends reality and time. Everything in my vision was framed and coming at me in blocks of time. If I took a two steps forward, my brain would get the information from the first step when I reached my second, if that makes sense.
Here's how you get the best effects from salvia.
1. Use a butane torch lighter and nothing else.
2. Use a water bong and nothing else.
3. You need to be sensory deprived for the substance to really 'take' you, so try being in a dark room with no sound and lights. Pull the wires from your phones.
4. Pack as much salvia as you possibly can into your bowl. There should be bits of leaves or what not falling out of the sides.
5. Start up your jet engine and put your mouth on the pipe. Place the flame DIRECTLY onto the bowl and begin inhale. You need to do this as hard as you can.
6. When you burn up the contents of the bowl, exhale through your nose, keeping your mouth on the mouthpiece, then in one massive breath, take every last bit in that you can and hold it for roughly 20 seconds. Salvia will only effect you give you take in a lot and all at once.
Keep in mind... salvia is not for the faint of heart. She has rules and regulations. She has safety precautions and job interviews. If you want to get 'high', don't mess with salvia. It will rip you from reality and leave you in a terrified heap on the floor.
Most people are skeptical because they don't get any major effects the first few times around. That's because she's testing you. She wants to see if you're worthy of what she has to show you, or if you're just there to get messed up.
Just for clairification, I started out with plain old dried leaves and have moved on to 15x extract with significant results. If you have any questions about it, refer to my post which I made several months ago. If you're too lazy, ask me on AIM and I'll gladly reply.

 

[C r e a t i o n]

Originally posted by DJ Saiyan:
3. You need to be sensory deprived for the substance to really 'take' you, so try being in a dark room with no sound and lights. Pull the wires from your phones.
I had actually discovered the very next night how true this is. I won't go into it now. But i'll come back soon and tell all my almost disturbing incident that next night from smoking the Salvia. Amazing it was. I may not even be able to remember fully what the hell happened.
But i'll come back to do my best. It's something else I tell you. And I enjoy your help and input into the world of Salvia DJ Saiyan.
Tommorrow, I was going to do some meth(first time). But I was probably going to show my same bud how to smoke Salvia before that. It's going to be a long night tommorrow. Though i'm sure i'll allow time for Salvia to run it's short course first.

 

[Splatt]

Thanks for posting about your experience!

 

[chompchomp]

Salvia is very powerful stuff. There's lots of info at www.erowid.org and various other sites. My method of intake was the same as DJ saiyan. I used a 15x extract smoked two cones and was physically unable to take another cone even though my girlfriend was lighting and holding the bong for me. For me the visuals were definitely solid- nothing like the fractals that I have on acid. Talking to more experienced Salvia takers - they tell me that there are roughly 6 levels, the first few are hallucinations anywhere from mild to extreme, then there's a level where you "break through" and time and sometimes ego becomes non-existant. I haven't been there yet as I was too scared to go all the way the first few times and Salvia is now a prohibited substance in Australia(the only place in the world by the way). Many sites suggest using a sitter but I prefered that my girl sit in an adjoining room. The trip lasted for about 15-20 minutes decreasing steadily, but the initial feeling was so intense I was expecting it to kick in even harder like acid but it seems to metabolise rapidly. I was so out of myself I couldn't even crawl but within 20 minutes I could walk around and do stuff. One warning I have been given by others is that it affects everyone differently, some people take one toke and break through, others need more. All I can say is that this stuff is not a placebo or a cannabis substitute, it's powerful. [NO SOURCES!] I also suggest reading the experiences section on the erowid site.

 

[Soul Rape]

Salvia sounds very interesting. I am going to mexico soon, anyone ever seen and identified salvia growing in the wild?