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Salvia - First time - Jesus Christ

tippin666

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Being the hardass I am I decided I would try salvia with my friend who cant do anything else with his house arrest and court ordered drug tests. So we go out and my friend goes in and comes back out with 1 gram of 15x extract. (told him to get the 5x but he decided that just wouldnt cut it despite what ive told him ive researched) Well I was pumped, I always enjoy a good trip, weither it is beautiful like shrooms or visiting hell like on 1050mg of dxm I always have a good time, well in comparison.

So im sitting outside my friends house and im very chilled out expecting a great trip, I expect something trippy and somewhat enjoyable despite the reviews of many online who warn me of its power.

Im sitting there with the homemade bong made out of a bowl piece going into an airtight 16 ounce water bottle that we had to make due with but didnt expect to break through like the great trip reports ive read. Well my friend packs the bowl with a more than sufficient amount of the 15x extract, this being my first time I was very excited at the trip i was about to face. So I was there and I began to hit that overly packed bowl, taking the biggest hit of my life, it was really easy on the lungs which was suprising...............

Good god, at the time I released the hit I was staring at a tree and think I heard my friend ask if its hitting. By the time I look down from the tree I began to loose contact with my consiousness...more so than any other drug...but there was way more to come. I sit there as my friends spin in a never ending flip book which is the only nature I know, it never stopped flipping, but at the end of the book it was always my goofy friend who was geeking out hardcore....then it just started over and over again....as it continued I slowly lost track of who I was and lost complete comprehension of the universe, all that existed was the flip book which now no longer consisted of my friends but of blobs of nothing....I didnt know what people were....the laughing was a mere buzzing sound of something evil, the buzzing was not a sound nor was it a subconsious sound but it was something on a level I cant even understand now that ive come back

After regaining some sense of my soul I crash landed back to my chair, but it was far from over...my friends sat in front of my but I didnt know who they were or what they were. I percieved humans as no more than clay bloby figures that were connected to the ground, a thought that was very uneasy in my mind, probably the scariest moment of my life....I was being reborn in a new world made of clay where people were no more than large columns of a clay like substance connected to the earth. The only universe I understood was that within the circle I was sitting in, No matter how hard i tried to escape into the world I once knew...I could not I was stuck in this new world of clay "people"

This was not like any other trip...no useful thinking, but more of a new stream of consiousness I would have never believed possible. When I started "coming down" I was overwhelmed by this new life I was a part of. IT DIDNT STOP. My friends kept talking to me like I would have expected but I thought it would never stop. They told me 10 minutes have past and I would be coming down very soon. I was trapped, despite being outside and ran around franticly trying to get back to the reality I so dearly missed. I ran to the bathroom hoping to come back when I saw a familiar place, but then tried to sit back down in the chair I tripped in. I was hopelessly doomed.

My personality was so skewed as I slowly began to come back, it was slow and I was very impatient as I couldnt comprehend coming back to the real world I used to be a part of. My drive home, over 25 minutes after my trip helped a lot, but I was still in a very scared and depressed mood that I would not make it back. After coming back home I layed down on my bed, at this point I had hope as I layed down and closed my eyes hoping I would awake and be normal again.

Sure enough I made it back about 40 minutes after I had taken the big hit. This drug is unlike any I have tried, the world I had entered was terrifying, I can now comprehend the idea of not existing. Being able to comprehend this finally makes me understand the thought of my soul being completely deleted from any existance after death. Salvia is more than a drug, it shattered my existance and sent me into a world of nonsense that "I" didnt exist in. Nothing can prepare you for this, its just unbelievable.

I might try salvia again...soon in fact, I hope this time I will be better equiped for the experience understanding where I think I might go....or so i think

In other news im being comfirmed into the Catholic religion tommorow, Forced might I add but this just throws out new ideas into the mix which makes me once again rethink religion and existance once again.
 
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Do you see your soul and your "I" (ego) as one in the same? I get that from your "thought of your soul being completely deleted from any existance after death."

You were still there as an observer man... Your "I" died. Whatever your name is, was dead. If you ask me, the soul didn't die - the soul has never died for me, and for you also, some kind of consciousness still existed.

I just thought I would give you my outlook on it because I have felt exactly the same thing.. but I would hate to chalk it up as the death of self = completely deleted existance. You used the word soul...so I figure you believe in one.. If so, why believe in a soul if you think it is deleted from existance exactly when your ego is?
 
I guess im poor with my word choices. Theres no way to explain it other than I could feel myself being ripped apart until there was a moment where there was nothing at all. In this world I entered I could feel myself getting more distant and torn away from existance until there was that one moment where there was nothing left. Its hard to remember any of it but I remember it up to that one point, after that is when I woke up I guess you can call it and was reborn into my clay world in which I was a new person. I guess I can atleast say that up to the point of nothingness, I was scared of being torn from subconcious self, and in the state of being scared I learned that I must except the fact that there was going to be nothing there if it kept going. That exceptance to me is very meaningful for some reason. I guess im using the word soul as the person I know myself to be and the person I live with daily. Im using the soul as the person I can only know so well being that person myself, and I have never been so distant from that myself in my life to the point there was nothing. No feelings, no fear for that moment, just the end of the flip book in which there was nothing. A sort of sense of relief as it began to end, then there was nothing. That is when I was reborn into the clay world. Im not sure if it has meaning or if I forgot key parts to my journey but looking back at it, it was one of the most intense experiences ever and this includes non drug induced experiences too.
 
wow I never realized that the freak out isn't because of the "other dimension" its because of our world... lol
 
My trip was alot like yours. My and my friend both have that 'flip book' feeling on it too
 
I thought this stuff was supposed to be like really week grass? Thats why it was legal?
 
Dude...have you read my "Savlia fucked me up" thread....sounds like we had similar experiences...
 
As for the ego death / ‘soul’ death bit… My 2 pence would be that:
On a good strong Salvia hit your ego can quite easily go bye-bye or merge with other objects in bizarre ways (being a wall, a chair, the floor, or any other particular object of perception). But there is also something beyond even the cold fear of your sense of ‘Iness’ going… there is something else that seems to dissolve right on the boundary of experience just before full amnesia. That last something goes bye-bye as well and there is basically the Abyss and awareness. That’s it. There isn’t even a concept of ‘this is forever’ present, because nothing like Time or Concept exists there. Whether this is something like a ‘soul,’ ‘ID,’ or ‘subtle body’ disintegrating I couldn’t say. My best guess would be something like your ‘world ego’ or fundamental ‘operating instructions’ underlying the self structure dissolved; i.e. not only has the program been altered or wiped out, but even the machine level code has ceased to function in any meaningful way. All stop.

If this doesn’t scare the piss out of you or make you question every fundamental assumption regarding reality, you are either one wise cat or you didn’t take a big enough hit.

And to think, some years back people used to debate whether Salvia really ‘did anything’ or not.

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I think I'm going to make a website spreading a rumor about how a peak salvia experience causes a strange lack of brainwaves exactly similar to a persistant vegetative state, where a body lives on after the soul has passed.

Anyway I still question whether salviar really "does anything"
 
You need to use better punctuation when you write, tippin666, because it's incredibly annoying to have to read abominations like "cant" "im" and "wouldnt" over and over again, despite what people on myspace and Messenger would have you believe.
 
Xorkoth said:
Nothing could be farther from the truth.
Me and my mate tried to buy it when we were 15. We had the impression that it was just week grass..I'm glad the guy wouldn't sell it to us.
 
LeoC said:
You need to use better punctuation when you write, tippin666, because it's incredibly annoying to have to read abominations like "cant" "im" and "wouldnt" over and over again, despite what people on myspace and Messenger would have you believe.

I agree, but tippin666 actually has better writing skills than the majority of Internet users.
 
I think it was very easy to read but on the other hand i talk and write like that too

and salvia is definetly very very freaky once you get a breakthrough

im wondering if smoking it after taking a benzo or maybe e would make it enjoyable / put some happiness in the experience
 
Smoking it after a benzo or even a moderate dose of alcohol makes it far more enjoyable, and its way easier to keep your head, too.

however, like you might guess, its way harder to remember the trip the next day. Even when I take a really small dose of benzos or booze and smoke salvia, most of the trip is wasted.

As a plus, the afterglow of salvia really alters the alcohol/benzo buzz in a crazy way. Hard to describe, but for me its like being more aware of my intoxication
 
salvia is very powerful drug...only people who have lot of experience with drugs should try it...and even then you wont be prepared...the feeling is unlike anything....if you want to try it, get ready.
 
Yeah it seems like lots of people have the flipbook feeling...weird...maybe that's part of the effects? It did that for me too.....but sort of like I said something to my sitter and then I started to lean back and well it felt like that happened about 100 times over (seriously no exageration) before I "broke through". I knew it was working when I felt like I was being sucked back and had 100x the same thing happen (leaning back and saying "damn") over and over and over and over and over and over; I thought it would never stop and I was stuck in that moment forrrreeevvveeerrrr....creepy.....then just poof...I was completely sucked into a different dimension w/ a few aliens telling me my job was to grab something in space, too much too describe and I'm too lazy to write a report. Salvia is crazy. Hope you have fun trying it again :)
 
^ i had the same exact feeling of the flip book over and over again also!
it was crazy. i was sitting down but it felt like i was falling down in the same room over and over again
 
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