Kul69
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This was my third attempt with salvia but my first experience. The first two attempts were with plain leaves and nothing happened. I used 10x standardized extract. This took place in a small sort of cabin in the woods with me, my girlfriend, and two of our friends.
I loaded up a bubbler with what I would call a smaller bowl of the 10x extract. I looked around at everyone and asked who was going to hit it first, and everyone said me. So, I started reconsidering starting with 5x standard extract instead which I also had. However, it looked like it would be nearly impossible to get the bowl I had already packed out of the bubbler unless I wanted to pour out the water and such. I decided that I would just go for it and expect a very intense experience.
I took a somewhat large hit although not the largest I could have taken, I wanted to take it kind of slow first. Held it in for awhile, I'd say about 15 seconds and exhaled nearly no smoke. Very smooth hit, I think the water element works well with salvia.
I sat there for about 5 seconds wondering if I wasn't going to have any effects same as before, then I began laughing about something. I couldn't stop my laughing. I thought that maybe it was just placebo and I was making myself laugh. My head was tilted back and I was out of control laughing at nothing, I felt great though. I looked back at my friends who were laughing about how obviously fucked up I was and the room seemed to fold in half. I felt as though I was very close to everything and my girlfriend told our friend to grab the bubbler from me. I began talking about how folded I was and that "it just folds you right up". The actual feelings are impossible to describe for me, all I can say is that reality was folded into itself. I was laughing this whole time.
I could already feel the effects leaving me. My thought pattern went along the lines of, "Am I already sober? ...No.. Am I already sober? ...No...". After a little while I began to want to come back to reality and had to calm myself down from getting overly anxious that it hadn't worn off yet.
I said all kinds of things during this time I can't even remember now. Mostly about how folded I was and how weird this whole experience was. Eventually I felt sober enough to pack another bowl the same size as I'd had for the next person. They smoked the bowl I had hit but said it was mostly ash and they felt a little strange but nothing really.
I watched as one of our friend's hit the bubbler and held his breath as I explained and handed off the bubbler to our other friend. My girlfriend declined and said she would do it sometime but not today. I felt mostly sober by this point and was observing our friends to see what happened. I asked one of them, Tom, if he was still holding his breath or if he'd exhaled already. He said he just did right before I asked.
I could tell by the expressions on their faces that something was happening. Then Tom said, "Here's the thing though.. I don't even feel like I could smoke a ciggarette on this". We all started laughing at this and pretty soon we were out of control laughing like madmen. Tom remarked that it felt like someone just punched him in the face and this got us all laughing again. I don't really know what was going on in their world, they were pretty out of it. I decided then that I needed to take another hit, and this time I should really torch the bowl and not hold back.
(Looking back at this point, it had probably only been about 5 minutes and I was still under the influence when I smoked another bowl. I could see continuing to smoke this to insanity very easily.)
I loaded up another bubbler bowl for myself. Really ripped this bowl and ashed it in one hit. I remember the taste being stronger when I inhaled and thinking that this time would be stronger, I was positive. Held my breath for 15 seconds or so again and upon exhaling was back in the peak of the last time I'd smoked.
Everything was folded again and I said something like, "I'm all folded up again" and everyone laughed and said, "Wow.. I didn't expect that..". I started laughing and talking about how obvious it was that I'd be folded again, but couldn't quite think clearly enough to say anything. Then everything began to vibrate and I knew the experience was approaching the peak and I hadn't reached it yet. Suddenly the side of the cabin I was on felt very seperated from everyone else. I was sitting on one side of the room and everyone else on the other.
The cabin started to twist and I found myself looking sideways at everyone. I felt as though the side of the room I was on was some kind of carnival ride that had been switched on. Like a ferris wheel that started spinning but I was on the ferris wheel and the other side of the room and the people there wern't. As the "wheel" turned, the cabin continued to twist around. Everywhere the walls touched in the room it began to split open and white spilled in the cracks. The roof started peeling off of one of the walls, everything was expanding and breaking apart. I felt like the walls would just be blown away at any moment and some sureal landscape would appear. In my mind the white light was like stepping into the sun and needing time for your eyes to adjust. I kept wondering what would happen when the blinding light subsided and what was outside our little cabin was revealed. Suddenly I percieved an image. I didn't "see" it as a visual but it was a very clear image to me, crystal clear in my mind. I had a vision of our cabin sitting on the stomach of a giant person who was laying in a room that was also giant. The whole building was no larger than this giant's finger. Then as quickly as that image came I saw another one that is harder to remember of rolling fields of grass on a large sphere with white light radiating all around my vision making the sphere the only thing I could percieve. These later two images seemed to occur only over the course of 5 to 10 seconds and then I found myself back in my folded state and my girlfriend was asking me various questions about what it was like.
I had been talking this whole time about it and my friend's were trying to go with it. When I told them I was on this ride they were asking me who else was on the ride and such. However, this began to really annoy me because I was trying to percieve what was happening not try to impose my thoughts on it. Asking questions like, "Who else is on the ride?" just made it hard for me to focus on the experience I was being given. My girlfriend was asking me questions I can't remember now but I began talking about how people who don't even do a drug a drug just sit there and ask questions and become annoying for some reason when you're on that drug. I just wanted her to shut up and listen to what was happening cause it was occuring too fast for me to answer questions along the way. I continued to feel folded up and very "stoned" for a couple more minutes and then returned to a mostly sober state.
Our friends said they wern't sure they really liked it. That they laughed a bunch but it felt like there was a nervous edge to it or it was somewhat forced or something. I apologized for my comment about people asking a bunch of questions or whatever and that I was just out of my mind. I didn't mean to be rude or anything, my acting that way was just part of the experience.
If you ever plan to try salvia, don't bother messing around with leafs or whatever. Get some 10x standardized extract. I didn't have to meditate for an hour to the Salvia gods and then smoke a gram of Salvia with a torch in a bong in pitch black darkness to experience it which is what most people seem to need to do. I'm sure the above things might increase the effect but I don't feel like they should be a requirment.
I will be trying higher doses of salvia and at the moment I find it to be a very pleasurable thing to do both physically and mentally. I didn't experience any of the fear most people seem to report except for brief moments. Nothing more than I would expect for an intense psychadelic experience.
I loaded up a bubbler with what I would call a smaller bowl of the 10x extract. I looked around at everyone and asked who was going to hit it first, and everyone said me. So, I started reconsidering starting with 5x standard extract instead which I also had. However, it looked like it would be nearly impossible to get the bowl I had already packed out of the bubbler unless I wanted to pour out the water and such. I decided that I would just go for it and expect a very intense experience.
I took a somewhat large hit although not the largest I could have taken, I wanted to take it kind of slow first. Held it in for awhile, I'd say about 15 seconds and exhaled nearly no smoke. Very smooth hit, I think the water element works well with salvia.
I sat there for about 5 seconds wondering if I wasn't going to have any effects same as before, then I began laughing about something. I couldn't stop my laughing. I thought that maybe it was just placebo and I was making myself laugh. My head was tilted back and I was out of control laughing at nothing, I felt great though. I looked back at my friends who were laughing about how obviously fucked up I was and the room seemed to fold in half. I felt as though I was very close to everything and my girlfriend told our friend to grab the bubbler from me. I began talking about how folded I was and that "it just folds you right up". The actual feelings are impossible to describe for me, all I can say is that reality was folded into itself. I was laughing this whole time.
I could already feel the effects leaving me. My thought pattern went along the lines of, "Am I already sober? ...No.. Am I already sober? ...No...". After a little while I began to want to come back to reality and had to calm myself down from getting overly anxious that it hadn't worn off yet.
I said all kinds of things during this time I can't even remember now. Mostly about how folded I was and how weird this whole experience was. Eventually I felt sober enough to pack another bowl the same size as I'd had for the next person. They smoked the bowl I had hit but said it was mostly ash and they felt a little strange but nothing really.
I watched as one of our friend's hit the bubbler and held his breath as I explained and handed off the bubbler to our other friend. My girlfriend declined and said she would do it sometime but not today. I felt mostly sober by this point and was observing our friends to see what happened. I asked one of them, Tom, if he was still holding his breath or if he'd exhaled already. He said he just did right before I asked.
I could tell by the expressions on their faces that something was happening. Then Tom said, "Here's the thing though.. I don't even feel like I could smoke a ciggarette on this". We all started laughing at this and pretty soon we were out of control laughing like madmen. Tom remarked that it felt like someone just punched him in the face and this got us all laughing again. I don't really know what was going on in their world, they were pretty out of it. I decided then that I needed to take another hit, and this time I should really torch the bowl and not hold back.
(Looking back at this point, it had probably only been about 5 minutes and I was still under the influence when I smoked another bowl. I could see continuing to smoke this to insanity very easily.)
I loaded up another bubbler bowl for myself. Really ripped this bowl and ashed it in one hit. I remember the taste being stronger when I inhaled and thinking that this time would be stronger, I was positive. Held my breath for 15 seconds or so again and upon exhaling was back in the peak of the last time I'd smoked.
Everything was folded again and I said something like, "I'm all folded up again" and everyone laughed and said, "Wow.. I didn't expect that..". I started laughing and talking about how obvious it was that I'd be folded again, but couldn't quite think clearly enough to say anything. Then everything began to vibrate and I knew the experience was approaching the peak and I hadn't reached it yet. Suddenly the side of the cabin I was on felt very seperated from everyone else. I was sitting on one side of the room and everyone else on the other.
The cabin started to twist and I found myself looking sideways at everyone. I felt as though the side of the room I was on was some kind of carnival ride that had been switched on. Like a ferris wheel that started spinning but I was on the ferris wheel and the other side of the room and the people there wern't. As the "wheel" turned, the cabin continued to twist around. Everywhere the walls touched in the room it began to split open and white spilled in the cracks. The roof started peeling off of one of the walls, everything was expanding and breaking apart. I felt like the walls would just be blown away at any moment and some sureal landscape would appear. In my mind the white light was like stepping into the sun and needing time for your eyes to adjust. I kept wondering what would happen when the blinding light subsided and what was outside our little cabin was revealed. Suddenly I percieved an image. I didn't "see" it as a visual but it was a very clear image to me, crystal clear in my mind. I had a vision of our cabin sitting on the stomach of a giant person who was laying in a room that was also giant. The whole building was no larger than this giant's finger. Then as quickly as that image came I saw another one that is harder to remember of rolling fields of grass on a large sphere with white light radiating all around my vision making the sphere the only thing I could percieve. These later two images seemed to occur only over the course of 5 to 10 seconds and then I found myself back in my folded state and my girlfriend was asking me various questions about what it was like.
I had been talking this whole time about it and my friend's were trying to go with it. When I told them I was on this ride they were asking me who else was on the ride and such. However, this began to really annoy me because I was trying to percieve what was happening not try to impose my thoughts on it. Asking questions like, "Who else is on the ride?" just made it hard for me to focus on the experience I was being given. My girlfriend was asking me questions I can't remember now but I began talking about how people who don't even do a drug a drug just sit there and ask questions and become annoying for some reason when you're on that drug. I just wanted her to shut up and listen to what was happening cause it was occuring too fast for me to answer questions along the way. I continued to feel folded up and very "stoned" for a couple more minutes and then returned to a mostly sober state.
Our friends said they wern't sure they really liked it. That they laughed a bunch but it felt like there was a nervous edge to it or it was somewhat forced or something. I apologized for my comment about people asking a bunch of questions or whatever and that I was just out of my mind. I didn't mean to be rude or anything, my acting that way was just part of the experience.
If you ever plan to try salvia, don't bother messing around with leafs or whatever. Get some 10x standardized extract. I didn't have to meditate for an hour to the Salvia gods and then smoke a gram of Salvia with a torch in a bong in pitch black darkness to experience it which is what most people seem to need to do. I'm sure the above things might increase the effect but I don't feel like they should be a requirment.
I will be trying higher doses of salvia and at the moment I find it to be a very pleasurable thing to do both physically and mentally. I didn't experience any of the fear most people seem to report except for brief moments. Nothing more than I would expect for an intense psychadelic experience.
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