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Salvia - Experienced - Arriving Somewhere But Not Here

suspekt-

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Two weeks ago I had a dream in which I smoked salvia, and for the first time in my life I was aware of the colours in my dreams. As I woke, still feeling a bit dizzy, I decided that this was the day to smoke the last of my salvia. I'd made a 5x extract using an acetone wash a year earlier, and my stash was finally coming to an end. Salvia isn't a fun hallucinogen for me, it's more of a painful journey inside my mind, so I don't use it more then a couple of times a year. I almost never have fun during my salvia trips, but after I'm done with a trip I'm always amazed at the power of this substance.

So at around eleven pm I set out from my house to the place I'd decided to smoke salvia. It's a nice secluded spot by a lake five minutes from my house, where I was sure to be alone and with a nice view to boot. As I got there I quickly packed my pipe, put on the song I'd earlier decided to listen to (Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere But Not Here, little did I know how much of an influence it would have upon the trip) and then I checked my watch (23:08). I hit it once, holding the flame on the bowl while pulling for a good 5 seconds, before I held my breath for as long as I could. I exhaled and hit it again. A few seconds passed as I wondered if I should do another hit, but before I could decide I was hit by an incredible rush, a feeling of intense vertigo as if the ground had suddenly disappeared from beneath me.

My first thoughts were "TOO MUCH! TOO MUCH!", as I quickly emptied my pipe in an effort to stop myself from doing a third hit. I laid back and tried to relax, looking over the lake at the houses on the other side. They were divided up by neat rectangular shapes of indescribable colour(like a combination of all colours, pulsating... kind of like the visual disturbances I get before a migraine). I distinctly remember thinking "Fuck rectangular shapes.", and being filled with contempt for those geometric figures(perhaps because of me associating them with migraines? I'm not sure).

Now comes the moment of my breakthrough, and this is where it starts to get weird. I hadn't been paying attention to the music at all, but now Steven Wilson's voice suddenly rang out clearly: "Did you ever imagine that the last thing you'd hear as you're fading out... was a song?" And I suddenly realized that this was it. But I wasn't fading out, I was waking up. It dawned upon me that my whole life had been a charade, an elaborate hoax played upon me by shadow people. They had been working my whole life to keep me from knowing the "real" reality, and this was the moment that they "yelled" Got'cha!

I remember replaying memories from my life, except this time I could see the shadow people keeping me in the dark. A perfectly orchestrated prank of sorts. Suddenly I could see a dark city of some sorts, and I believe this was the "reality" that I was entering now that I woke up from this life. The song continued on, it was such a perfect commentary upon what I was experiencing.

All my designs, simplified
And all of my plans, compromised
All of my dreams, sacrificed

Ever had the feeling you've been here before?
Drinking down the poison the way you were taught
Every thought from here on in your life begins
And all you knew was wrong?

I finally accepted what was coming and I think I closed my eyes, but I could still see this city that I was heading towards. It was filled with dark skyscrapers and gave me an incredible feeling of dread. I believe I blacked out at this point, only because my next recollection is of the guitar solo in the song and I know that a few minutes passed. The trip winded down in intensity now, although some CEVs of alien imagery remained.

After that a 30 minute comedown followed, with no distinguishing features, just a general feeling of being a bit off(and that horrible salvia taste in my mouth)... And as always I was left with a feeling of awe at the power of salvia.
 
Phhhhhh nice report suspekt, I've only ever tried salvia twice........the first time it didn't work (probably because I had never tried it before and wasn't fully sure what I was doing :)) and the second time, well, let's just say that I still remember it like it was yesterday.
 
EDIT { Never say anything about where Salvia is Available, or any Drug for that Matter, thanks } Tried it once and decided that it's to strong for me... like being kicked into a k-hole with extra bass in 30 seconds.... an experience all the same though. I felt glued to the couch and my mate (who had tried it before) started laughing because he knew what i was going through... i got the indescribable feeling of being very very alone in the world .... not a feeling i liked
 
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I love Porcupine Tree...

Never stop the car on a drive in the dark,
Never look for the truth in your mother's eyes,
Never trust the sound of rain upon a river rushing through your ears.

Arriving somewhere but not here.

Did you imagine the final sound as a gun?
Or the shattered windows of a car?
Did you ever imagine the last thing you'd hear as you're fading out was a song?

All my designs simplified,
And all of my plans compromised,
All of my dreams sacrificed.

Ever had the feeling you've been here before?
Drinking down the poison the way you were taught,
Every thought from here on in your life begins and all you knew was wrong?

Did you see the red mist block your path?
Did the scissors cut a way to your heart?
Did you feel the envy for the sons of mothers tearing you apart?

Cool report. :D

If you haven't heard their new album yet... get it!

The song "Sleep Together" from the new one makes me trip while sober.
 
suspekt- said:
It dawned upon me that my whole life had been a charade, an elaborate hoax played upon me by shadow people. They had been working my whole life to keep me from knowing the "real" reality, and this was the moment that they "yelled" Got'cha!

Good report.
I have had Salvia trips where I saw the shadow people working and working to build the false reality I was seeing my whole life, as they slowed down my reality came undone and I realized it was a lie.
Salvia is completely insane!
 
Indelibleface said:
I love Porcupine Tree...



Cool report. :D

If you haven't heard their new album yet... get it!

The song "Sleep Together" from the new one makes me trip while sober.

Hehe, I've got a special edition of the new one, autographed by the whole band :). I've also got tickets to see them next sunday... Porcupine Tree is one of my favourite bands.
 
suspekt- said:
Hehe, I've got a special edition of the new one, autographed by the whole band :). I've also got tickets to see them next sunday... Porcupine Tree is one of my favourite bands.

You are one lucky asshole. :D

I've been meaning to get into their earliest stuff -- the oldest album I own by them is Lightbulb Sun, and I have everything since that. I've heard a few songs from their earlier stuff, but I want to hear more.
 
Beenhead said:
what exactly are the shadow people? Do many people have this expereince with salvia?

I have noticed similar repots with DMT and its cousins

I have no idea actually. I don't believe in the "supernatural entities contacting us" theory, but it's remarkable how many people see or feel these shadow people when they do salvia.

It is weird, because often I don't even have to actually see them, but I have this 100 % sure feeling in my gut that they are there when I'm tripping on salvia, the same way I know that the sun is behind the clouds when it's raining.

This time I could actually see them, behind the veil of my normal reality, doing something, what that something was I'm not sure of, but the purpose was to keep me from seeing the "real" reality, the reality of which these shadow people inhabited. It's hard to explain, but it kinda feels like it's the reality behind what we normally see, like how we can't see the insides of a machine. We don't see the components, we just see the machine working. When I smoke salvia, I often get the feeling that I've done something horrible, that I'm not meant to see "behind the scenes".
 
Beenhead said:
what exactly are the shadow people? Do many people have this expereince with salvia?

I have noticed similar repots with DMT and its cousins

I’m not sure what the shadow people really are.

The ones I have seen on Salvia are different then DMT elves. They work in patterns and build realities like DMT elves but are different. They live in the shadows and they are more intense. A lot of times on Salvia for me when reality splits apart there is a dark realm so dark it is like a black void, if I spend a little time and am very quiet I will start to see things in the dark spaces and the shadow people are one of the things the come out of it.

I believe elves and entities are representations of our thought patterns. On DMT the elves and entities seem to be more pleasant and peaceful like sunny afternoon daydream, on Salvia they are darker far more intense. For me the shadow people are not scary but the realities they unravel can be.
 
squerll said:
...................... For me the shadow people are not scary but the realities they unravel can be.

This is fascinating Squerll :) . Are you able to articulate/describe these scary realities that are revealed.

I know I'm probably asking the impossible, having been there and experienced the clear, but confusing topography of Salvialand. Just wondering though =D.

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EntheoDjinn said:
This is fascinating Squerll :) . Are you able to articulate/describe these scary realities that are revealed.

I know I'm probably asking the impossible, having been there and experienced the clear, but confusing topography of Salvialand. Just wondering though =D.

It is very hard for me to describe Salvialand. The realties it unfolds are very complex and strange I cannot put them in to words. For me Salvialand is like an inverted mirror full of complex formations that are just beyond words and description. But I will try to describe what they mean to me and how they affect and make me feel at this point in my life.

I feel like my ego and self perception is made up of many images I have of my self, like so and so thinks this about me so I am this, I do this so that makes me this on and on forever the self perceptions go that make my self image of my self. The perceptions make up my ego in this realm and keep my self-identity intact which keeps me sane.
In deep layers of Salvia it seems to unravel and throw away of these perceptions and just give me a stone cold look at my self with no self perceptions at all or any perceptions for that matter.
It feels kind of like going to the middle of town with your loving family, nice clothes and a warm jacket on and all the sudden you are alone naked and cold with everyone looking at you and you are wondering who you are and how you got there and what is going to happen to you. Once you come to terms with that condition and another reality is unfolded it happens all over again.

That is about the best I can describe how the realities I experience in Salvialand effect me I am not very artistic or poetic.

I think what a lot of my fear comes from is a survival response, when that much your mind is unraveled and taken away you are insane…

I feel it makes my sanity stronger to lose it and get it back just like it makes people stronger to lose all of their money and gain it back or lose all of anything and gain it back, so I do think Salvia is a valuable experience.
 
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