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Salvia Divinorum - Experienced - Cleansing

Cyon

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Hi!

Psychonaut from Norway here.. stumbled over your site a couple of days ago and have been checking out your messageboard since.. and hey, it seems like a nice enough place so I thought I'd chime in :)

I have been ordering Salvia Divinorum 10x from the netherlands a couple of times now, and have to say that it's far beyond a psychadelic drug.. well.. It's a psychadelic drug per se, but it kinda does what all psychadelics aspire to..

It was the about the 8th or 9th time I enjoyed it today, and I finally really broke through in a big way..

Previously when I have done salvia I've had totally immersive "lucid dream"-like experiences.. and always the distinctly same physic feeling all over.. (the much encountered physical sensation on salvia that feels very much like when f.ex your leg falls asleep and you are paralyzed for a short while.. just that it is all over your body at the same time on salvia..maybe because of the fact that the body is indeed sleeping.. either that or your body is suddenly capable of feeling the the force of air-matter(!).. ) ..these I have pulled out of more than once, because they have been so incredibly intense and for lack of a better word, strange..

Today I smoked 4 big doses in a row with short time between each..

First I got the intense physic sensations, which were VERY dream-type gravity feeling.. pulled in wicked directions downward, and kind of "into" the essense of the room.. I felt like i got thrown up and down repeatedly violently by the waves around me, just like in a dream-"falling" scene just totally awake and 1000 times more intense..

Then I began seeing a row of something that looked like long pyramids (obelisks?) being pushed through my ceiling down towards the floor, and the walls morphed into a kind of mechanical instrument which was somehow connected to why I twitched around like crazy.

The most intense parts wore off as soon as my mind began struggling with the drug.. Kinda weird, but I have found you can really get totally sober again anytime during salvia with your mind.. It's just like forcing yourself to wake up from a dream.. just that it's only your mind which is "sleeping", not your body..

I got up again, almost pushing the "waves" away..

I spent a little while contemplating the entire experience and finally convinced myself to let go and accept whatever may come, and lay my body and mind totally in the force of the plant..

Then I lit up again.. 3 big pipes in a row..

The strong physicals hit me like insane again, but this time I went into it totally not resisting.. rather flying instead..

This was a good idea, as suddenly my entire left-side eyesight turned into what looked like water, clear sky and bright sun.. And it just turned brighter and brighter until it all was the most powerful, bright light that I have ever seen..

Then it hit me.. It all felt so familiar.. It all was just the most familiar feeling of them all.. The feeling I get everytime my creativity peaks, the feeling I get when I am in love.. The totally timeless father of all feelings and sensations, and now it was like I was floating around in the very core of it.. It felt like I was back, coming hope from a long voyage.. the essence of that feeling is something I had felt all my life and still feel every day.. but now I got the distinct feeling that it came from before this life.. and suddenly I could remember every dream I had EVER had.. and all the missing pieces of the dreams fell into their place..!

At this time I could work totally functional as usual and interact better than ever..

It then dawned that I experienced and understood the entirety of the entire thing that was going on around and within me..: Total clarity, nirvana, foundational existance-matter, buildingblocks of the universe, everything, concept of life, God... call it what you like..

It was like finally waking up from a lifelong sleep, which I had been gradually awakening via all the other psychadelics I have been enjoying over the years.. It was like getting the answers to everything.. I felt as an energy, growing brighter and stronger the more focused I become.

I found that the initial salvia effects are for just the same reason as dreams.. a way for your mind to get a chance to filter your thoughts on the physical world.. yes a "chance" because you have to take control of it yourself and choose to evolve, confront, live and see it clearly from above instead of fighting through it and falling out, or as Tool sings: "Choose to swing on the spiral of your divinity"..

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And now the reflection + stupid metaphor(lol) :

You must accept that your current life with all your worries is just another chance for your eternal soul to play the greatest, most open-ended "adventure-game" ever, and that death is not an end but a transition to either a higher form of energy (next level) if you manage to evolve your soul during this life into a faster vibrating energy (which by all laws of human science would make the lifeform living at a totally different plane when born.) or being reborn at the same stage.. (game over, try again.. screenshots and replay of previous round stored in subcouncious.)

-::May-be interesting sidenote: The Earth resonance at 7,8 hz (schuman resonance), and therefore that is the hz that all humans vibrate at too.. We have always been fascinated by things that vibrate faster than ourself (ex. the entire concept of music appreciation), we probably feel this way because it's what our souls long to become::-

It was a long time coming, but finally the gates crashed wide open!.. Everything now seems incedibly simple but simply incredible in its simplicity..
The concepts of depression, insecurity, dependance, personal and social games really crashed on their own ill-logic and totally dissolved themselves.. they no longer matter to me, or should matter to anyone, because I suddenly completly understood the concept behind them all..

All my lost motivation to create, educate myself and experiencing the world came crashing back easily because I want to evolve! That's what we all want, but we're living in a world today that is built on psychical degradation, and physical socio-pornography (a very basic point based on the primal needs of all animals) is what people strive to reach..

The word death totally lost it's old meaning to me and now appears as a natural, warm part of everything.. Actually the concept that people see of death is impossible, because we are a proven energy and I believe that this experience we call life will go on for as long as there is waves in our universe....

:D



Thanx!


The meaning of life is a simple one.. evolution
 
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Great Report. I have not had the chance to try this, but i would love too, and this report reaffirms my desire.
 
nice report. i just recieved 3 grams of non standardized 5x salvia extract, it's been 8 months since i last smoked it.
 
hey let me know what the non standardized 5X extract is like, id appreciate it since i have a source for the non standardized but im not sure ifs its just a waste and if i should just get something standardized even though its not like the FDA is actually standardizing salvia.

great report!:D and i completely understand you saying life is an evolution, constantly changing evolving in and around itself.life is so great like that, so simple.

its great thinking these things out when you just went through some ego reasembling, your mind is so free to perceive everything coming in without any illusions.
 
Thanks, I would recomend everyone to experience the same thing as well.. :)

The thing with salvia is that if you accept it, and don't turn away, it really gives you all the answers on a golden plate.. in such a way that you both see and feel how incredibly simple and amazing it all is.. :D

It wasn't even a personal choice to start up on the concepts of everything, because when you break through on salvia you really see that it is what both salvia and all other psychadelics are all about..!

I remember the thought hit me when I was getting close to the end of the experience (well, not end.. rather the start of a whole new greater experience.. life) that psychadelics actually work as the totally polar-opposite of what most people suppose them to work.. Were really drugging ourselves "sober", it's our "life" that is the trip.. if that made any sense.. ;)
 
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Cyon said:
Kinda weird, but I have found you can really get totally sober again anytime during salvia with your mind.. It's just like forcing yourself to wake up from a dream..
^^ I find that to be true as well. In the first few seconds I have no conception of my "self", but soon after that, I can kind of "push" myself back to being sober, like struggling up from sleep, if I want to. I usually don't want to though.

Great report, and welcome to Bluelight!
 
excellent report man.. i just wanna know, what was your exact dose of 10x extract, because i just got some standardized 10x and wanted to know what a good dose for breaking through like this would be. It seems that the bodyload was intense, but was it ever frightening?..like on 5 meo dmt
 
Not easy to say the exact measurements, but they were pretty big.. The four doses together counted for about 5/8 of the vial i got it in, and the vial total is 1 gram..

I have usually taken much smaller doses than this, but now the mindset was right so I though I'd just fire away and leave the rest up to chance.. ;)

I have strangely enough had almost the exact same distinct experience every time I have smoked salvia.. and it has always been more enigmaticly surreal than scary.. but when I broke through, the concept of fear didn't matter much anymore because I felt like I was allready dead, so fear was just.. illogical..(?) ..It sweeped right through to the bottoms of all my worst nightmares and kinda prompted me to overcome them for so to rip them totally apart..

Like on all psychadelics, its all in your mind.. If you have a lot of fears, issues and insecurities in your life it will probably be the most scary thing one can ever possibly experience.. But when you understand that there is no such thing as fear existing in the salvia experience quantum-world, you choose to let go and clean your "rational" mind from these fears too.. (much like what monks use many years of their lives trying to accomplish)

If you manage to reach that state of mind, and keep it with you into the following doses it will not be the least scary and will turn into the most familiar, comforting and totally clear enlightened feeling you will probably ever feel..

It's not really a drug at all in the usual sense of the word, rather the opposite.. The best description for it, that I can think of, that most people can relate to, is the red pill in The Matrix.. :)

Finally.. it works just like our everyday life.. think positive and positive things will happen to you, think negatively and you will be strucken by unpleasant things all the time..
 
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the thing you say about thinking positive.

Like for me, in this lifetime, i have decided that in this life i will change things. But i just don't know how to get my mind into the positive frame. I try and i try, but the problem is i just do not know what to do.

I want someone to give me the answer, but thats just my laziness.

I know i have to find it for myself, and i know its just there, but its so hard to look for the positive with a negative viewpoint.

Eh this doesnt make sense, i need a place to talk about this kind of stuff, thought and awareness is just full on nonsense.
 
The trick is kinda to forget about the viewpoints alltogether.. but yeah, that's pretty much the story of my life too..

Look at the world, look at the news, look at how most people in general around you are behaving.. is it any wonder it's near impossible getting a positive outlook on anything?..

We gotta fight for our right to evolve..;)
 
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I think you should pretty much get the most concentrated extract you can get your hands on..

It's the same effect that happens, you just get a higher concentration per. leaf, so you don't have to spend as many leaves at a time..

Don't know what it's like for you where you live, but I import it all the way from the netherlands, so it can turn pretty expensive :(
 
I would sell my left leg for the concept of having a "local friendly head shop" here..
 
Great report!!

I'm another one that's found I can force myself out of the salvia state. Never really thought much about it being a sleep-like state, but the pins and needles feeling in your body and pores is indeed pretty weird, and there's been a lot of times where I felt paralized.. I notice sometimes, especially when I'm lucid on some new terriotry, it is easy to wake up from the salvia state (like a lucid dream), even if you don't want to.
 
Cyon:

Your "Final thought" (springer style :D ) reminded me that once too i thought about exsistance this way and life is worth continuing with.

Nice report :)
 
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