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Salvia and spirit travel

bluegreenman

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I guess Im one of the few that actually enjoys Salvia. Ive been to hell and heaven on this substance but Its one that is very interesting to explore. There are several types of Salvia experiences, but the one that has happened the most to me is this one.

When I inhale the salvia, I blackout, and come back, but not as myself. The thoughts, goals, memories, family, and exact conversation at that time belong to another person. I can hear the person talking to whoever they are talking to, and hear their thoughts. It goes on like this for a good 5 or 10 minutes.

What do you guys think? Does Salvia actually transport your spirit to another time, place, and person? This is a common experience with Salvia. Is it a spiritual travel? Or is it merely a bunch of jumbled thoughts made to seem like someone elses? My most intense trip ever makes me believe in the spiritual side.

On my most intense trip, I inhaled 4 hits before passing out. I was according to my trip sitter, having seizure like fits for 20 minutes. In my head though.. I was in another dimension, an alternate reality. I was flying towards this planet through the bright orange clouds, I could feel the wind, feel that gut feeling of falling, It felt more real than any dream or vision I have ever had. I broke through the clouds and saw a world that was covered completely in the same gridlock pattern of huge shining white houses, and extremely dark streets. The whole planet was a development.

I hit the ground with a painful thud, and was greeted by a shocked young man. He asked me if I was alright and I could not find the words to say at this moment. He invited me to his back yard, where the grass was a purple flowing mass. We sat in the yard and discussed what I did to get there. We started comparing our realities and talking about endless topics. I spent the whole day with this man, met his family, and had a weird dinner with them. This all seemed like a full day, not 20 minutes of seizures. I remember starting to freak out because I didnt think I would ever return to my reality.

I told this man that I had to go back! I was screaming at him to help me get back, I was panicked. I ran out of the house and down the endless pitch black road. I ran for what seemed hours, and the road turned into a dark ocean that I swam through. In the distance I saw a box like structure that was a picture of me laying in my living room, having seizures. I swam as fast and hard as I could and struggled my way into this window of my reality. I then got sucked very forcefully back into my body. I stopped having my seizures, and started crying. You may think me weak minded, but I WAS GONE. It was not like other psyches where I know im just a delusional drug user, I lived, breathed, ate, talked, felt this other reality. It shocked me to my very core. Salvia is no joke, the spirit behind this plant can take you to very far places. But beware... she is a mean one..
 
Salvia is not a recreational drug, and could never be used as one. It's a pure entheogen experience, and that puts it in a different level than any other drug I know of.
Technically speaking, it's a heavy dissociative and deliriant. The 'transportation' of spirit you talk of is its ego manipulation capability.

I'm not experienced enough with it to judge whether or not lady Salvia could do to your ego perception what stuff like LSD does to your environmental perception. The loss of ego is perhaps the most introspective experience for us, so it's very hard to compare 'notes' between individuals.

I recommend everyone to read this article about how the ego is a false socio-environmental induced reality:
http://deoxy.org/egofalse.htm
 
I was once sucked out of my body and into extra-dimensional (4th dimensional?) space after smoking 21x salvia. It was a very strange experience. From outside three dimensions, reality looks like a series of frames stacked one in front of the other. Like, if you took an animation and lined individual frames up like dominoes. Really I have no way of describing it using the language I know. I fell out of reality and was falling into an infinite void. I was dimly aware of other creatures in this space, but I didn't see them directly. I think that they knew I was there, and it made me uncomfortable. Like, I wasn't supposed to be there. I remember getting back to reality was a struggle, and I still felt like I was being watched after I managed to get back to my body until I came down. The scariest thing about this experience was that I had forgotten that I had taken a drug, and had no idea how I had ended up out of my body. I had a moment of panic, but luckily the come down was fairly rapid.

IMHO, salvia should not be smoked. The traditional method of use is to chew fresh leaves. I've re-hydrated dry leaf before and chewed it up. You have to hold the leaves and juice in your mouth for about a half hour (the active compounds can only be absorbed through the soft tissues in your mouth, and will be destroyed in your stomach), and it can be somewhat uncomfortable, but the taste isn't as bad as most other psychs. When chewed, the experience lasts longer, but isn't as intense. It is more like a light mushroom trip, and I don't think I'd be as likely to freak out, personally. I haven't tried extract this way, but I bet a pinch in the gum would do nicely. I definitely plan on trying it some day. As far as smoked psychedelics go, I'd much rather have DMT.
 
TThat "box like structure" was your place on the wheel/gear of Life.
You might be on to something there. A friend of mine came back from salvia world and all he said was "I was on a wheel, and I had to wait my turn to get off" Never thought much about what he meant until now.
 
wow french.. your article had chills running all over me.. Everytime I think about my salvia experiences, it sends me on hours of deep thinking and I just feel weird. I have experienced almost the same thing you spoke of. In one experience, I was what seemed like a mile above it all. I saw millions of these gears and I remember thinking that I was going to fall to my death. I saw these beings (truly breathtaking) flying towards me in a hurried fashion. I woke up on the floor after that though... I think that in my previous report I actually landed in another reality. Man I seriously feel this sinking, dark feeling thinking about these experience.. It was no vision, no dream.. It felt as real as me sitting here typing this post. You wanted more details, so here are some.

-the man I met looked human, but very tan, and his hair was a light blue
-Every person I saw was in peak physical shape, the women were all the same shape
-the food was all vegetation, no meat. The man told me that they would never eat another living breathing thing.
-the whole world was the same houses, everyone had the same everything.
-each persons back yard had many "trees" they didnt look like trees though
-the colors were so rich and deep that I still get the chills thinking about this reality's beauty.
-there is no war in this reality, he said they stopped that millenia ago
there are so many details that I could write a book on my visit. Everyone here probably thinks Im crazy now.. but If they experienced (not saw) what I did.. They would be questioning there very existance. I have never gotten back there. everytime I do it now, I get just the thoughts and motives and emotions of another being. Its like the beings have blocked me from going that far again. Did I slip past their defenses? Or is it all just a chemical reaction in our brains...
 
My advise. Mix with a dissociative. Despite the nasty symptoms of DXM engage in a mixture of the two if DXM only cough suppressant is available in your country. There is a 100 fold difference. Completely adventurous. I'll write a trip report for my experience years ago in the next few days it was one of the most amazing experiences of my life.
 
Salvia is not a recreational drug, and could never be used as one. It's a pure entheogen experience, and that puts it in a different level than any other drug I know of.:
http://deoxy.org/egofalse.htm

So so true! i am another who really loves salvia, i was one of the first real trips i had and a real eye opener, the trips iv had have been so magical, beautiful and moving! words cannot describe to you how life changing they have been <3
 
So so true! i am another who really loves salvia, i was one of the first real trips i had and a real eye opener, the trips iv had have been so magical, beautiful and moving! words cannot describe to you how life changing they have been <3

I always feel this sense of fear before smoking it. Ive had some terrible experiences as well. Ive woke up in an alien ship, attached to tubes and they dissected me and put organs made of glass in me instead. I felt all the pain and terror.
 
I always feel this sense of fear before smoking it. Ive had some terrible experiences as well. Ive woke up in an alien ship, attached to tubes and they dissected me and put organs made of glass in me instead. I felt all the pain and terror.

Listen I feel the same way. I hate salvia on its own and feel like its pointless and too complex to truly understand. Its astounding how similar everyone's unique salvia experience is with one another. Read this trip report I just typed up I think you'll find a LOT of similarities with your experience. I mixed with a dissociative though and felt none of the frightening negative effects you experienced.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=560467
 
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