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Salvia - 20x Standardized - Very Interesting.

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I know the first two are kind of dull, but read number 3.. Because I find that very interesting.

So.. I got a gram of the 20x Standardized a couple of days ago. I had a few different expierences with it.. I am going to try to explain the best I can.


FIRST EXPIERENCE:
I was in the backseat of an 08' mustang with a couple of friends. So as soon as I got it.. Not paying attention to my set or setting, I really wanted to try it. We were actually heading back to a hospital, so I waited until we were on the second level of the garage and parked. There was 3 of us, but only two of us ended up trying it at the time. I have done alot of researched, so I proceeded to tell my friend in the passenger seat how to smoke it, etc. I loaded up his hit & he began to put the flame to it & inhale. He held it for awhile. A few seconds later, proceeded to say he felt like he was cut in half. Examining his arms out in front of him & finally loosing the ability to make any sense of the words he was speaking. It was just jibberish.

So.. I proceeded to load up my hit. While he was still going through what he was going through. I lit it up, held the flame on it, & inhaled. It didn't taste as badly as I thought. I took alot in and held. I could of took more, but I was nervous. Suddenly reality fell away from me & everything became very 'choppy'. Like everything chopped up. I had strong pulling on the left side of me & finally managed to cross my hands on my lap & be okay. I remember vaguely seeing my buddy, the driver, who did not take a hit yet, & wanting him to take a hit because he did not know what we were going through. Everything chopped up into different sections.. & I couldn't comprehend or make sense of anything. I eventually felt 'stuck' in the backseat of this car.. and very anxiety like. The passenger who just took his hit jumped out already and stripped his shirt. I told him to let me out. I was having very bad anxiety from the backseat.. and the set and setting was not good. Going into the hospital eventually, proved to be even worse. That's about all I can remember from this one... Very unpleasent.



SECOND EXPIERENCE
The second expierence was with my fiancee & we did try to have the set & setting right. I turned some music on.. and the lights down low. I proceeded to load up a hit in the bong.. Sitting on the bed, I put the flame on it & inhaled. I took in a good deal.. and held it. Reality seemed to disappear once again. I felt as though there were more people in the room & that made me uncomfortable, because I felt like they were judging me or what not & thinking I was crazy. The music, I believe 'Lil' Wayne', seemed to be directed right at me.. Like he was there talking. It seemed as though it was 'reality' and all directed at me.. That got to much to take so during my expierence.. I got up.. and went towards the stereo and turned it down completely. I proceeded to go back to the bed.. where my chick was.. and it felt as though SHE was judging me and thinking I was crazy. I eventually ended up curling my head into her lap, because that was the only 'real' thing I felt at the time.. and it calmed me very much so. This expierence was much better then the one in the car.. Though I sweated badly.. & eventually ended up in my boxers... still sweating.



THIRD EXPIERENCE (The most interesting):
So.. By the end of last night.. at the end of my second expierence.. I had a little bit left for one more hit. It looked like a little amount, so I didn't think much of it.. and decided to load it up in the bong. I was sitting on the edge of the bed.. with the T.V was on. I proceeded to put flame on the bowl and really inhale all I could. My girlfriend was coming over towards me at that time. I took it all in and held it in. I put the bong down close to the wall away from the bed (still holding my hit in).. blew it out.. then apparently proceeded to lay my head back on the pillow, pulling my chick to my chest. After this I became pretty disconneceted from reality. She apparently kept telling me that I was, "Okay".. and I replied, "Okay". Trusting her.. & relaxed. Reality seemed to fall away with me. Everything that was.. Was not no more. The concept of talking, standing, sitting up, anything.. Just disappeared. I no longer registered anything in reality.. Such as my bed that I was on.. My fiancee next to me.. or anything like that. I was just there It felt as though I was stuck.. in something that was NOT reality.. and being pulled forward. Like my mission was to get back. She said I was just laying on my side.. & at times, putting my hands out in front of me.. examining. She said she was holding my hand the whole time, because I looked scared as hell. I can understand that, because if I could comprehend feelings at the time.. Scared would of been one of them. I felt suck in this place, that was NOT reality.. & could not comprehend anything. I was just 'being'.. and trying to get out of this place I was in.

Eventually it came to a point where this 'power' or 'force' that was in control of me.. Or holding me there.. Not letting me into reality.. Came to a choice.. & Eventually my girls face appeared. I still have no feelings, I still can't comprehend, and I do not know who this girls face is.. But she is finally starting to appear in front of me. As a choice. I couldn't talk, but I begin to rapidly try. Nothing came out but mumbo jumbo, jibberish, that made absolutely no sense.. but I finally managed, while pointing at her, to say, "That." ... "I like that." Meaning.. I want to go to that. Like that was it for me, my reality.. My safe zone. That everything "will for sure be okay" if I get to that. Then I apparently grabbed her leg.. & lifted it up.. and just held it. I eventually started to regain some control at this point.. & got up off the bed, picking up the bong and moving it closer to the wall.. wanting it no where near me at all.



The more I sit down and think about these expierences.. At the time.. I hate them. With a passion.. But after I think about it, it turns out they are not that bad. Now that I am getting more comfortable with it & knowing what to expect, etc.. It seems as though they have some sort of purpose. Like there is more to it.. A 'door' just waiting to be opened. I really want to open this door. Like this time, I lost touch with reality and completely.. & my chick was my safe zone. I couldn't comprehend her being there, or 'being', what it was, or her as a person.. But I knew "THAT", was okay.. and would make things better. That reality was good for me.. If that makes any sense.


Like I said, it seems to be getting better for me.. and I can seem them having a purpose, like it's a 'journey' for me. Though I believe I have not broke through yet. I am going to get some more Tuesday & continue to experiment.


Any comments or feedback? Be glad to know what everyone else thinks.

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Even though I have never tried Salvia, the more and more I read trip reports, most of them being VERY VERY intense, I have a lot of mixed feelings about the extract :\

On one hand, I like to experience new things, and always always learn something from my experiences.

On the other hand, after reading many bad trip reports on Salvia, I'm half scared to death. The intensity and the alien-ness of it all frightens me beyond all belief. But at the same time it absolutely fascinates me! To know that there is a plant on this world that can send your mind into a place that no other substance can(IMO not even DMT), I'm intruiged.

Even after reading numerous bad trip reports, almost every single one of those reports has given the user something positive. As with most psychadelics.

So after reading your report, I'm thinking I'm one step closer to breaking through with Salvia. Thank you.
 
Yea, well I agree it can be scary and unpleasent. But I think it has EVERYTHING to do with set & setting. For instance: Don't do it in the back on an 08 mustang with a bunch of friends. Very unpleasent.

Relaxing night home.. Lights low.. with someone you trust. Your s/o in my situation.
 
salvia is just weird. it's like going on a roller coaster ride into some weird dimension for like 15 minutes of sheer weirdness.

sometimes the weirdness is scary.. but usually, it's just weird. I'm sitting on some salvia currently. have you gone into a 2d universe? or gotten sucked into some sort of "void" or anything? i always end up halfway in the void.. i think because i resist it. next attempt at salvia i take, i'm have to try and just abadon everything and see where the void leads.

does your salvia taste like fish flakes?
 
I think next time I do it ill have to use a bong, is this ok? i used a pipe with 10x extract and couldnt get enough into me to have a strong enough experience. I had some pretty strong experiences though not what you'd call a breakthrough. One time I felt like i was pinned to my bed and couldnt stop laughing, it was almost like nitrous, one time I felt as though the pipe was a dividing line into which my body split and I found it very confusing, I didnt know what my arms were supposed to do and at the end i burned myself pretty badly. the best experience was when I closed my eyes and I felt like my perception of everything turned into a circular moving ferris wheel like thing but it wasnt physical at all, all mental and extremely hard to explain. Havent had a bad experience yet. When I go back to london im going to get some 20x or stronger and use a bong, ill write a trip report after. Pity its illegal in my home of australia, its very interesting stuff but id call it dissociative, I dont really think its psychedelic, nothing like acid, way more like nitrous but much more interesting and a lot less of a party drug.
 
I can relate to the feelings of panic, and how you weren't aware of what your body was doing. I, too, had to be told what my body did while I was tripping. Apparently I was holding my hat and said to my friend, "Is THIS the capital hat?!?" but have no recollection of doing so. Hah.
 
I've never managed to get salvia to "work", but I have long been fascinated by it. When I have tried it, I've had nothing but a mildly stoning effect - not even close to the deep levels of psychelia that so many seem to have. I've been reading quite a bit about salvia recently and am becoming ever more intrigued by it. I suspect my profoundly opiated state when I have previously tried salvia may well have dulled the effects of the divonurum in the past. I've heard tales of other poppy-people who have suggested that the two substances just don't get along - cancel each other out, almost. In my relatively new, opiate-free state, I really must have another go soonest :).

Nice report :).
 
I've smoked salvia only twice but both experiences were VERY scary and I actually felt overwhelming physical pain that made me cry and scream. As with every trip, it was very situational though and I think only went so horribly because I was surrounded by loud people who were being ridiculous and it just scared me
 
Nice reports.


My last salvia trip was a lot like your third. I've done it 3 or 4 times now, but the last time was by far the most intense I've ever tripped. I was at a motel partying. We had been smoking pot all night, and drinking beers and vodka. I was pretty haggard when we decided to break out the salvia. My friend had got some weak stuff for free from a headshop, I'm guessing it was around 5x or 10x, and I had some 20x. So we loaded up my friend's stuff into the bong, my buddy hit it, then I hit it right after. He started tripping a bit, and I started to feel some slight effects. You mentioned how everything separated into "sections". The same thing happened to me, everything seemed to be 2D and layered, it's difficult to put into words. So I was like that for about 30 seconds when the bong came back around, this time the bowl was full of 20x. So I took a huge hit of that too, held it in for a good while. I exhaled, and then I guess I just said "Aw fuck", then that's all I remember. I'm pretty sure I blacked out. My friends said I feel out of my chair and sprawled out onto the floor for a good 15 minutes, motionless. Then I came to, I stood up and nothing made sense, I staggered over to a bed and passed into another world. Similar to what you mentioned, I lost all of my basic functions, I struggled to remember what I was but I couldn't. I don't even know how to explain it. Utter confusion and helplessness. The entire time I felt like some sort of being, and it felt like I had lost something vital and I had to get it back. Pictures, memories, feelings all passed through my head but none of them felt like my own. It was scary, but at the same time there was no fear, no feeling at all.


I came back to the real world a bit later. I had located my mind again, I remember who and where I was, but I was still tripping. Whenever I would blink it felt like my body would turn to paper, and I was falling backwards into a puzzle.


I'm happy it happened though. And I would probably do it again.
 
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