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Salvia 20x .. pretty inexperienced. Wish I'd known..

pablo020

Bluelighter
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Feb 28, 2005
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MA
Wow. To start off.. this is my first trip report so try not to hate on it too much. I just had to describe this, since I've been browsing these boards for a while now. But anyways, here goes.

So, me and my two friends .. we'll say A and B, were smoking on some decent bud, and A says that he picked up some Salvia 20x from the local headshop. Prior to this experience, I'd smoked only the regular salvia, and had mild trips but nothing major. Off the regular stuff it just seems to mess up the way I judge distances, thinks seem closer than they actually are. It's kind of strange, but anyway. I was pretty stoned when he'd brought up the idea of smoking it, and I had been eager to try an extract. I was a bit nervous about going from the regular stuff to the 20x, but I figured it can't hurt me. So I watched as A and B both packed their own half bowls out of the glass pipe we had. A started laughing hysterically, which he did for the remainder of his trip. He laughed so hard he was red in the face, and sweating insanely. B just got silent, staring straight ahead of him. He later described his trip as; " I was scared the whole time, but I don't know why I was scared. It was just this feeling I got that I was in serious trouble for smoking salvia. "

Anyways, on to what I felt when I smoked. I packed my own bowl after A and B, then took it all in, lighting it with a regular Bic lighter. I held the hit in for a good 20 - 25 seconds, and I felt nothing at first. So I told A and he gave me some more, which I proceeded to pack into the bowl. I took the second hit, and held it in for as long as possible. Now, once I inhaled the second hit I could feel the effects. I don't even remember how long I held in the second hit, it was strange. I remember breaking out into a cold sweat, which was followed by an intense feeling of heat. I no longer recognized A or B, as they seemed to be "entities" rather than people. I completely forgot anything about the drug, and I was lost in my own psychadelic world. I sat there for what seemed like hours, staring at my surroundings. A's house was the chill spot, so I was there all the time. At this point though, I no longer recognized the room we were in.

I sat there, completely confused and disoriented. I could feel the sweat pouring from my body, or at least it felt like it was pouring. Nothing looked familiar, and everything seemed to be miles away from me. I had no grip on reality, and I remember thinking " Im lost out here, who am I? " .. two things that no longer go together. B later told me I said that out loud, and the whole trip they were trying to communicate with me. I felt like I was alone in a dark, boiling room. Almost like a sauna/steam room... just, not?
After what seemed like forever, I remember glancing at the clock to see that I'd only been feeling the effects for around ten minutes. I looked around and A had left the room, while B was mumbling something incoherrent. I began to come down, and kept thinking how much I just wanted to lay down in my bed, where it was safe. I felt like I had just had the worst experience of my life. When I look back on it though, it was quite the experience. I haven't touched the stuff since.

Im sorry if this was a bad report! I tried to describe the feeling, but.. this is what I came out with. Give me some feedback! I wanna know if anything similar has happened to anyone else. Peace.
 
What you've described is known as ego loss. How long did it take you to recover from it? I've heard its only fleeting but I can understand how a lot of people would have trouble dealing with it afterwards. I've often thought of trying Salvia should I get my hands on some but reading some of the reports I'm a little bit apprehensive.

Still, great report to get the ball rolling. Keep up the good work.
 
I felt strange for the rest of the night, that feeling of being unfamiliar with everything stayed even when I no longer felt the effects of the leaf. It was some crazy stuff.
 
I have had experiences of ego loss on large doses of Psilocybian mushrooms, once on LSA, once on 2C-E, once on 4-AcO-MiPT, a few times on 5-MeO-DMT, and plenty on Salvia. However, with Salvia, it isn't exactly ego loss more so than a dream-like fantasy where I become someone or something that I am not, and I have no recollection of who I really am. I actually have no problem dealing with ego loss. I enjoy getting the shit scared out of me, and that is why I like 5-MeO-DMT so much. Ego loss with 5-MeO-DMT is like none other. However, in terms of fear, 5-MeO-DMT forces you to see the truth, and Salvia tears you away from the comfortable reality you have created for yourself. I don't know which one carries more fear. I guess it depends on the person.

As for your specific experience, you had one that is quite common. However, I meditate within those experiences so I can gain a perspective and vision of what is actually happening. Once I let myself enter what I call "Salvia Land," my whole world can be turned into something heavenly. Though, letting yourself go is very hard with Salvia because the intensity causes you to want to "get a grip" on reality. It is human instinct to avoid pain. The world of Salvia is a beautiful place though. I have never seen any wrathful visions with it, nor have I had any negative experiences. Have I had terrifying experiences? Hell yeah, but they have all left me in good standing with myself. I enjoyed "getting away" for a short time and embracing a fantasy.
 
Every time I smoke salvia I forget that I'm actually on a drug while it's happening. It's only when I start to come down that I realise what I've done. As you can imagine, this makes for some pretty intense times on the stuff due to my absolute belief that what is happening is indeed reality. I don't take it anymore because of this, it's just too disturbing with nothing positive for me to take away. And teh entity thing is familiar too. On my first deep trip with salvia I encountered two gypsy like people, one was laughing at me and at how out of my depth I was while the other was egging me on to go deeper.

Considering there are many more substances out there with more interesting and valuable results (for me), I think I'll leave it well alone.
 
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