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Salvia 20x. 3rd Time. Oh God, Please Get Me the Hell Out of Here!

Kandy K

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I’ve had many hallucinations with difference psychedelics, and usually my trips are full of meaning, yet my experience with salvia was like no other. Instead of a spiritual journey, the experience on salvia lacked greatly in meaning, but was 10 times more random and hysterical. One large bowl of 20x extract was about as intense as a strong dose of mushrooms—a drug I am deathly afraid of due to reasons I shall not disclose at the moment. Do not attempt to understand my justification. I disengaged this futile battle years ago.

So I took a toke of half a bowl and felt the effects on a physical level first. Parts of my body felt as if they were being stretched out in the shape of a bubble, as if I were being viewed under a magnifying glass. Except the expansion was a physical feeling and not a visual appearance. Then the auditory hallucinations began. Unlike other psychedelic trips, the experience was very uneasy, harsh, and lacking in depth. All the objects in my room began conversing with me, but they were bombarding me with shit-talk. The clock, the desk, the posters, and all other furniture told me that my father hated me because my life was so useless. Not only that, but out of all the letters in the alphabet, he disliked K (the 1st letter of my name) the most, and preferred L (the 1st letter of my sisters’ name) as his favorite.

Then the visuals commenced. From the corner of my windowsill, out marched all the letters of the alphabet, maneuvering in a rhythmic fashion imitating that of the Gestapo. They were the shade of dark red with thin, wavy limbs and huge, cartoon, bug eyes. Their bodies were composed of blocks, shaped in whatever letter they were supposed to be. One by one, just like lemmings, they committed suicide by jumping off the edge of the window to their deaths, in alphabetical order. The remaining letters that were still awaiting their turn to commit seppuku were continuing the endless hazing. Making threats that if I did not finish the rest of the bowl by the time “K” (the letter) had jumped off, my dad would not pick me up. This worried me greatly, though I’m not sure why, seeing as how I was home with no particular destination in mind.

I frantically smoked the remains, and managed to hit the last bit just as “J” jumped out the window. The re-dose instantly intensified the effects, and two Latin men appeared outside my window. Mind you I am located on the second story above the garage. They were criticizing me for smoking the salvia plant, because salvia is Hispanic, so that I was in fact, committing a hate crime. They convinced me I was biased against Hispanics, so I crawled back shamelessly to my bed, ashamed to admit my prejudice. I called my friend (who is of Latin descent) and left him a hysterical voicemail including much hysterical screaming and nonsensical blabber about being a flagrant racist against all Hispanics everywhere. I couldn’t handle life anymore, realized the spics were right, and gave the pipe a rest. For about an hour anyway.

The next day I smoked the salvia again, this time with two tweakers. Once again, the furniture in the room started up with the insults and negative vibe. They were trying to convince me to be selfish with my friends and just finish off the rest of the dope without sharing. Considering I am a very giving person and smoke my friends out on a weekly basis, it was quite disturbing to find such shadiness being emitted from my imagination. So I argued back with the desk. I targeted him because he was the most obnoxiously outspoken. My engagement in this dispute deeply frightened my friends and intrigued their morbid curiosity at the same time.

Out of the floor popped The Queen of Hearts and John Pabon, both of them standing only 5 inches tall (jee I wonder why…hhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!) They both demanded a smoke, and reached into my bag and stole my cigarettes. The whole time I was simply conserving with them as if they were my normal friends, upon which the tweakers proclaimed I was tripping balls.

Overall, the body high was not smooth in the slightest; in fact, it was unbearably difficult to be comfortable in any given position. By itself, the salvia was not as visual as the time I had done it with weed. Instead, it was more about putting my mind on an entirely different universe and warping the dimensions of reality. Worthless hallucinations, but tons of fun, and made for lots of potential laughter.
 
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you had me on the edge of my seat - the dark/negative trips are thrilling and worrying at the sametime. Its a love hate thing, everytime i trip i keep thinking of trip reports and bloody erwoids trainwrecks experince page for salvia/lsd etc....

think i'm going to work on a mantra - "its all in my mind"
 
Very nice report, sounds like salvia hit you the hardest it possibly can. I have had entities "in my mind" talk to me while on it but never visible/imagined objects in the real world. That's awesome, but sounds like it could be a scary situation, especially if you're not ready for those strong of effects.
 
Kandy K, this is pretty much EXACTLY how my trips feel. Minus the racism. Cant you see that this plant is FULL OF MEANING? It told you the complete and utter truth sparing nothing, holding nothing back. The truth can hurt eh?>

Think about it. It showed you, you are wasting your life away on drugs, your father is logically very let down by this, perhaps you are deep down a little racist against hispanics...not flat out racism, but maybe you feel like asians are smarter or something? Sharing drugs? Come on, deep down, no tweaker wants to share his/her drugs...because it's your money, and you could get high many more times without sharing.

Salvia is fucking frightening. I know exactly how you felt. You described it very well. Trust me, this plant is a great teacher. So good, its frightening. Perhaps you have to become frightened, be shooken so much to open your mind to the truth of the situation at hand.

I bet if your life was just how you wanted it, you had no gripes about anything, if you were in complete harmony with things...i bet the plant would be easy on you, i mean like it would be a really positive trip.

I've said it before..and now you just confirmed it..The plant talks to you. I know exactly what you mean....to an outside observer, you will just look like a fucking schizo, talking to yourself...but the plant is indeed communicating.

I only have one last bowl of 10X from my gram I bought over a year ago.

Salvia is some intense, and serious shit. Nothing recreational about it at all.

Could you imagine making a quid out of the leaves and shit, and chewing/sucking on it? Ingesting it this way makes the trip last like an hour!

Take in to account what I just wrote to you...and you will completely realize what this plant is about and that i know exactly what iam talking about.

I dont feel safe touching this plant until my life is completely in order. Cause all it will do is fuck with you until then.

I dare you to take another go at it after reading this.

Dex
 
The only part that I thought that had any meaning at all was my dad disliking me. The other parts made no sense at all. Unlike with DXM, I felt it lacked much meaning. My best friend is half Mexican and my love interest is half Puerto Rican, was the salvia warning me about them or something? Also, I'm no ordinary tweaker. I actually OFFER to smoke my friends out with grams and half grams on a weekly/bi-weekly basis. I hate smoking alone, I hate being a shady fiending tweaker.
 
wow K, that's some crazy shit...esp the letters jumping out the window... You really think the hallucinations were worthless? sure sounds like an experience you're never going to forget, i think that's worth something. I think Dex had some good things to say about your trip. Nice report, your writing style is great. :)
 
No, it was scary, I didn't like it at all. The hallucinations had a very negative and unfriendly vibe about them.
 
Well it had to of meant something. I swear, the salvia trip is full of pure meaning....trying to figure out that meaning is the hard part...especially if you are filled with fear....many times i get filled with the fear of thinking i've gone completely insaine and am stuck in "there" for ever. It's the only drug that makes me forget i took anything at all....and sometimes forgetting who i am, or if i ever existed.

fuck
 
DexterMeth said:
Well it had to of meant something. I swear, the salvia trip is full of pure meaning....trying to figure out that meaning is the hard part...especially if you are filled with fear....many times i get filled with the fear of thinking i've gone completely insaine and am stuck in "there" for ever. It's the only drug that makes me forget i took anything at all....and sometimes forgetting who i am, or if i ever existed.

fuck

Shrooms were still scarier to me than salvia. But you are right, it is very frightening, and I did completely forget I had taken the drug.
 
I had a REAAAAAAAAAAAALLY strong string. I only had a half to three quarters of an 8 (i eyeballed the dose), and the first 3 hours I was absolutely miserable, because it was even stronger than salvia. So I was lying on the floor, blanket over my head, eyes closed in fear, crying about when it was going to end. I lost all concept of time so I didn't understand when my friends told me it'd be over in 2 hours and shit.
 
^^were you exp w/ shrooms or was that your 1st time? i had similar exp my 1st few times but now shrooms just rule. ah, but you did say they were strong as hell...
dang K, wonder what Ayahuasca would be like for you...!
 
^Yeah. Shrooms are great, arent they? I had a few bad trips when i first did them. Well actually my first few times were magically wonderful...but i had a few bad trips like "where is my life going? I feel like a worthless loser. Fucking, im dying under my blankets!" But eventually your mind "hardens up", and understands the trip, and you start to LOVE the ego loss and everything else. Shrooms = tribal outspace. as well as everything and anything else.
 
Closest thing to a bad trip I've ever had was on Salvia 5x, the report is somewhere here. Between salvia, shrooms, and acid, I think Salvia is the most powerful. It doesn't last long, but damn is it intense. That must have been crazy talking to your furniture. I think it's a little weird finding shrooms to be scarier than salvia, but after an intensely bad trip I can see why you'd avoid them. All around good report.
 
Wow, excellent writing there! I also feel, though, that Dexter is spot on when he suggests that there IS indeed meaning to be found in those hallucinations . . . I have found salvia a most serious drug as well, a very good teacher about self and that . . . I do it rarely any more, because of the serious note it usually has. But it has never made me feel as scared as acid or mushroms have done in the past... there's something quite redeeming about the salvia high, something that makes me somehow accept and intuitively understand what I see. But then I have always been in my own home, or when not, with a person whose mere presence was a comfort.

I think that salvia, as well as a myriad of other trippy drugs have a lot to teach most of us who aren't that evolved, and that when we aren't ready to understand deeply what it is they're telling us, then we can easily misinterpret, or even reject. I have never flat out rejected a teaching - not even that of my one and only crack comedown (which was also a very spiritual experience, albeit a very very painful one) but I have tried to ignore messages . . . but this usually caused me more difficulties . . . I remember one such message, about 10 years ago, . . . I kept wondering why people are so competitive . . . and how ugly that really is . . . took me a long time to realise that it was also me who was competitive about this and that, but I did not want to admit that to myself.... we can only see in others what we have discovered in ourselves, even if only subconsciously . . .but I'm rambling! This isn't supposed to be about me.

All I can say is I feel Dexter is spot on, totally. Take his advice, Kandy K. Salvia is trying to save you, maybe?
 
yea , thats one of the craziest reports i have ever read on here, and u write so well!
i had salvia a few times, first time i was so fucking stoned and go way to blitzed and smoke about 3/4 gram of 5x
i thought i was in a dream and i couldnt get out, then another version of myself was with my friend looking down above me and saying come up here, u can excape this from up here, but i couldnt get up, i was tripping for a good 15 mins, once the main intense part had finished i was left paranoid as fuck and didnt know what had happened and KNEW i just KNEW something was wrong, my hands were morphing into the bong, was fucking insane, first time was my most intense had a few times since then, and i just like the dreamy feeling it gives :)

peace
 
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