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Salvia 15x/Kava/Cannabis - Experienced - Dreams of a Thousand Dimensions

frizzantik

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Lately I had been thinking about using Kava as a natural way of reducing anxiety. I came across some of my old kava and decided to enjoy a bit. I used to take kava somewhat often, but after a while grew tired of it, especially since availability and quality seemed to be on the decline in the early 2000s. I took a small amount (approx 10mg kavalactones) from a liquid extract and we pleasantly surprised to find all traces of anxiety melt away.

As usual i was smoking cannabis and tonight I also had a potent cannabis cookie. The pot and kava were keeping me awake, and I ended up chatting on AIM with a buddy for a few hours until about 6 or 7am. During our talk we had discussed Salvia, and having less anxiety than normal I decided I would like to sample some 15x extract. My first 15x salvia experience had been under the influence of poppy tea and it seemed to change the mental aspects so that you don't really get much aside from visuals (which isn't bad btw) but i didn't really feel I got the whole picture on 15x. I was coming down from the kava and could feel the anxiety seeping in, so I chose redose the kava at the same level to relax me again.

The little-used entry room where the morning sun was shining was to be my blast-off point. Sitting in the comfortable chair, I meditated for a bit and felt the kava come on. I sat and cleared my mind and thought about my motivations for taking salvia. I knew i was doing it because I wanted to see what would happen, but I searched for questions I should ask the plant so as to not go in without a 'real' reason. A few things came to mind and I meditated on them for a short while.

My last salvia 15x encounter was with ~50mg in a glass marijuana pipe and regular bic lighter. Again I decided on this amount and method of smoking as last time it had been plenty. I placed a dried salvia leaf in the bowl to cover the hole and then put the extracted coarse powder on top of the leaf. Meditating again I finally worked up the courage to enter the salvia world.

The bowl was lit and the small amount of plant matter burned quickly. I held in the smoke for as long as possible and began to the feel the effects in about ten seconds after inhalation. My head felt smaller and there was a bit of pressure on it.

Salvia was coming.

The smoke was exhaled. Geometries began forming. Lines -- previously unnoticed -- interconnected to become complex multicolored shapes and objects. The colors of Salvia are indescribably beautiful, especially the incredible emerald hues that permeate everywhere.

A slight feeling on my face became one of the vertices of a 3D six petaled flower. Tiles formed and snaked across the carpet and around the corner. For a while I no longer took in visual data and was only aware of the sounds outside. I was unable to tell if I was hallucinating the sounds or not. I vaguely recognized the sound of an ice cream cart's noise maker, but even now I'm not sure if that's what it was.

One thing I'm not used to with the strong salvia extracts is the length of the experience. I wondered if I had taken too much, and an uneasy feeling came over me as more weird body effects came on. They seemed different than normal, perhaps from the kava. I became worried for a second and jokingly wondered if I had 'offended lady salvia'. A face not unlike the Madonna formed in my peripheral vision and a voice said to me that it was ok. I was slightly humored by this as I don't really belive in the female salvia spirit, a point I had discussed earlier in the week. Focusing a bit I was able to turn the face into that of a man or a genderless child and thus i didn't really think of it as a 'real' female salvia spirit. The voice telling me it was ok did make me relax enough to enjoy the rest of the experience, which was spent watching the wall ripple from the sounds of wind through the trees and feeling my body slowly return to me.

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Even though I had a bit of an uncomfortable time, I was intrigued and wanted to try again with a stronger trip.

I waited until I felt pretty much at baseline and weighed out .1g of 15x, again packing a leaf in the bottom of the bowl and putting the extract on top. I sat again in the chair and decided this time to try to close my eyes at some point during the experience. The bowl was lit and ~100mg was burned quick and hot, with the smoke being held in. The feeling in my head was absent, and I don't believe the smoke was held in as long.

Exhalation.

Salvia came on strong and hard, and as I became overwhelmed I remembered to close my eyes. The last sliver of light sneaking past my eyelids became a neon 'snowflake', six sided like the flower I had seen earlier.

Falling. Falling into a great nothingness; complete blackness. Away from snowflake, away from the last light of reality. Time stopped.

Although I'm sure my entire experience was brief, I lost awareness of time. In many senses I was blacked out or asleep, i guess, as I don't remember how I got to this next part which is very difficult to recall/integrate/describe:

An awareness of layers, or or something going by me incredibly fast manifested. In some ways it was like a flip book. At first it was too fast to see what was going on, but then i saw it was myself in the room that was going by incredibly fast. It was like a thousand dimensions were going by, or a thousand instances in time. I felt as if I was going someplace, like I was approaching the correct dimension or correct time. As I approached, the dimensions slowed down, like a train arriving in the station. Once we arrived (now it seemed so though there were others there) I could see myself in the room. It was like I was looking through a transparent wall, the wall physically behind me in real life. I felt like I was with others who were looking in at my physical self. They seemed to be talking and just letting me watch. I got the feeling this presence was not human, slightly hostile but more indifferent.

I felt it was important to return to my body, but the others just laughed. I got the impression from them that it what was on the screen, aka "real life" was a joke, and that my body was just a temporary vessel for my consciousness.

I guess they decided to return me to my body because the trip changed again.

Seeing the room on the screen somehow put a house motif on the trip, and somehow i was in a long hall. I again felt the feeling of movement. I felt as if I my ego was returning to my body, and the hall was actually the layers of my physical body which appeared to me as a hall because time was going so slowly and/or my consciousness was microscopic, so even the layers of my body would take a while to move though. I was trying to make the movement faster and faster, trying to return my ego to my body. I could feel myself pulling and dragging myself. A voice said not to hurry or something to that effect. I finally returned to my body.

I opened my eyes and saw the pipe. It didn't register all all why it was there. For a second I was sober enough to mumble "I think that was definitely too much." I got disassociated again for a bit, but for the most part i felt normal again. I sat there, focusing as the effects dissipated, not wanting to return to the salvia world.

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The time from when I blacked out until I returned to my body was very dreamlike (at times nightmarish actually).. In many ways it felt just like it was a dream, and as I have thought about it more and more, more details have come out, just like a dream. I can associate most of the symbolism and events with stuff that has occurred in real life, from the long hallway leading to the room (time bandits movie), the time dimensions (the physics of time travel book i'm reading) and the Madonna (I had noticed a bible on the bookshelf earlier and had been annoyed by seeing it hehe) I guess in some ways I could see how people feel like they have contacted aliens or spirts on salvia but i really think it is a product of your experiences and chemistry :D

After the experience I was a bit shaken but came out with a positive outlook on my anxiety. I saw when i was trying to speed up my return to my body that it was like my real life when i want everything to hurry up and happen. I realized "what's the rush?" I'll still get where I'm going.

The post salvia headache and irritability also seemed to be minimal to nonexistent this time around, and usually i get it pretty bad. Perhaps the kava played a role in that, or maybe the extraction process gets rid of the headache causing chemicals in the salvia plant.

Overall a very positive, yet completely bizzare and sometimes terrifying, experience =D
 
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Nice report! That sounds like a great and nicely reassuring encounter with the salvia entity (lady salvia?? hehe) when she said "its ok" and "don't rush".
 
Great Report! I had a very similar experince with 'lady salvia' or whatever... basically i first began to see 'her' and saw her beckoning to me from another reality. To myself i thought ' maybe she wants me to take one more hit and go with her' and almost immediately after i thougt that, it seemed as if that was the reality. I saw her beckon and i took another hit or two over the coarse of time, but the intensity did not increase too much.

Also i agree with the beauty in the light greens salvia produces.. i would see that and a soft blue (projected off my jeans i think?).
 
well some people call the plant lady salvia and belive it is possessed by a female spirit.. the female spirit i ran into looked like the madonna or the mother of god

I was joking when i was refering to 'lady salvia'
 
I've only heard or felt Lady Salvia.. Although one time I did come in contact with a hideous salvia beast that was going to kill me :( Salvia is not a toy.. it is very powerful

Excellent report btw! Very well-written.. I enjoyed reading it! :)
 
bumping this super old thread...

frizzantik said:
well some people call the plant lady salvia and belive it is possessed by a female spirit.. the female spirit i ran into looked like the madonna or the mother of god

I was joking when i was refering to 'lady salvia'

I was watching documentary on salvia a few months back and my jaw literally dropped open when I heard that the Mazatec Indians would take Salvia to induce visions of the Virgin Mary... I don't believe I had ever heard that before, so to spontaneously see the same specific vision that the plant is known for is very interesting, to say the least.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_Goddess
 
You certaintly don't want to offend lady salvia. From my one meeting with her she had total control and power over me. She laughed at me. I was nothign compared to her. I have only heard her and felt her prescence as well... Though a few times in cev's at level 4 trips i beleive i have seen her. She looks elvish. Her face is very beautiful and that is all that i have seen of her in cev's. She also looks young in her human form. If she was human she would be one you would go after for a fuck or two. beautiful.
 
there is no face to salvia that i have seen, only felt a very feminine presence.
 
The best part of salivia for me is the post trip reflections, like how you associated your desire to get back into your body with your everyday anxiety...

Did you find it really easy to take comfort in that 'lesson' and roll with it? For me its very easy to integrate salvia-given snippets of life-advice and keep them for a long time.
 
Intoxo said:
The best part of salivia for me is the post trip reflections, like how you associated your desire to get back into your body with your everyday anxiety...

Did you find it really easy to take comfort in that 'lesson' and roll with it? For me its very easy to integrate salvia-given snippets of life-advice and keep them for a long time.


Yeah salvia can be scary but the next morning and from then on you will feel alot better, most ppl sooner or later forgive salvia for the overwhelming trips.
 
I use some salvia daily pretty much to be reminded how
background and reality are enmeshed with motif and sense of self.
I particularly like it at the beginning when I can see layers collecting as sensations fade more slowly.
and I adore finding that all things are made of mindstuff.
the 3-second windows of self is also an encouraging thing to review, and when it stacks up into several selves or voices, that too is a fine observation.

being over in 5-10 minutes is a huge plus in this busy busy world of ours.
 
being over in 5-10 minutes is a huge plus in this busy busy world of ours

heh, I agree, though unfortunately it doesn't give you much time to integrate into the experience. it's more like a rollercoaster ride than a fun house


I did a little touch up work to this report so bump :)
 
Funny my first salvia trip before I had read many trip reports I felt a maternal female voice telling me to stop fighting it and come on as if she was guiding me to go with her but it for some reason I just cant go with it IM working on letting go every time I've tried it i havent been in right mind set either so next time i plan to meditate first by the was im using 20X extract
 
I have not felt any female presence, even after 10+ trips on salvia. I used 1/10 gram of 20x extract from a warm water bong, and was blown out of this reality...when done right, I never even felt the trip coming on, it just snapped me to another place.....if I missed/coughed the second rip from the bong, I would get intense open eye visuals overlaid on the "real" world...some loss of motor control...and a "whoa!" feeling....but did not cross over.

I think the vids all over the net, of idiots giggling like little bitches after smoking salvia is totally not the real salvia experience. If you are that conscious and moving that much, you did not ingest enough to put you "into the other place".

Not to mention the tools that sit there and tell you what they are feeling in a totally conscious manner after smoking, like they just tasted a cookie, that's not near enough salvia....the real path practically knocks you into a deep trance, and you have NO connection to reality, even with open eyes you are still in that other place, and cannot see the world around you.
 
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