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Salvia 15X extract - 2nd time - Holy Fucking Shit WTF Craziest experience of my life

krazycrow said:
Whenever I first get to Salvia land I always think, “why the hell did I come here again”? But it is so strange and fascinating it is worth the fear it evokes in me. But I haven't had the urge to go there for a while, my last travels there were just so strange and intense I feel like I need to let them unravel and digest before I go further.
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I am exactly where you are atm. I have had the same gram of 30x for a while now. I was experimenting with it on a regular basis until I had an experience that I tried to fight I could say. My trips always have a sense that everything around me is part of a living being. Not that I am inside of something but rather that the entire universe is alive in some respect. Unfortunately, the last time I drove my knee into the floor which was alive, and at that point I got a very bad feeling about what I had done. What right did I have to damage part of the salvia universe? I'm not sure but ever since that moment, I have been unable to bring myself to travel back, almost as if I am no longer welcome. Perhaps, the salvia goddess can forgive me....
 
I Dove into Salvia for the first time today.
I am a long time tripper, Vitamin A, Shrooms, E...
A friend of mine asked me a few months ago if I had ever heard of it and forwarded me some Utube Vids. I must say, I was definitely interested.
Another friend said his Ex had tried it and did not like it... She is somewhat shallow and I don't think she would be able to experience anyting but fear on a ride like Salvia. But anyway... She still had some left, and she gave it to me.
It was enough to fill a large bong bowl. I had a few solo hours at home so I thought, what the fuck, let's do this thing. And did I ever do this thing!
I took the whole load in one big hit and laid down on the bed... Held it in for about 30 seconds and exhaled. I looked around and didn't seem to notice anything until I noticed the my vision had... I dunno... It's like... if I split my field of vision down the middle and discarded the right side and replaced it with a mirrored version of the left. Kind of like the mirroed effect you can do on the Mac. Anyways,(Sorry, I can digress from time to time.) Anyway, the mirrored halves began to curl inward and close in on me. Like two giant fucking waves of reality getting ready to crush my ass. So, next thing I know, all I can see are exploding fractals, reds and whites as intense as they can get. I wasn't even aware of being anymore. All I could do was be folded into myself over, and over and over etc. Then... (Subconcious time) I was back in my childhood. Well, not mine but in one, and I was on a darkened residential street in like... the 50's or 60's and all I could feel was the urge to come home. Wherever that was, and "Home" wasn't where I REALLY was, home was in the trip. My family missed me, my father, my mother, my brother and my sister all missed me and wanted me to come home. Then, I noticed an odd sensation... I couldn't place it. It was cold and repeatative, but I knew it, Then I realized, it was me breathing. I felt like ice cold water was coursing through me but, it wasn't uncomfortable ab all. Then something told me to return to my reality before it was too late. I sat up and opened my eyes. I was able to see the spaces between EVERYTHING, and those spaces coursed with the red and whit fractals I told you about. Then I felt a pulling, and I was being tugged back into the Salvia journey and those fractals were digging into me and pulling me back in. I laid back down and clsed my eyes, and reality began to form again, but as I came out of it, I remember the click clack of my sisters shoes, running up to me to pull me out of the asphalt I was sinking into bacuase she didn't want to lose me again. I opened my eyes once more, and just watched the pulsing of the red and white fractals until they faded away. The oddest thing is, I don't have a sister.

So, now... the biggest unanswered question is, will I try it again? Yes. How soon? Not sure.

I have had breakthrough experiences on shrooms when I was younger, and I was warned back on several occasions because I was "Not ready yet" Hard to explain, but if your are curious, pm me and I will elaborate. But, while I did expect something exploratorily hallucinatory, in no way shape or form did I expect to be folded into myself a hundredfold of times.

I have always known that the unconcious mind has keys to places that not all of us will get to, let alone understand it when and if we do get there and then, have the ability to break though but, this... This was unexpected and not at all unwelcome.

My experience might sound unpleasant to some. It was not. Was I afraid? Yes.
but, I was more afraid of staying and not making it back.

Strange.

I will give you more when I do it again.

And I will.

Heh.
 
Don Luigi said:
Vitamin A?
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According to urban dictionary, Vitamin A refers to Adderall.

I've been experimenting with Salvia 10x, just had the hysterical laughing so far. I'm glad I didn't break through on my first time though, I'm going to finish the 250mg or so I've got left and then order some 20x :)
 
My bong has a larger bowl. I am not sure of the strength of what I was given, though I tend to believe it to be 20x. Compared to the times when I shroomed on like 4 grams, and got to a place where I was literally warned away because I was "Not ready" this time, I think I crashed through that sentry point in a speeding hummer.
 
DaimoTsu said:
Then... (Subconcious time) I was back in my childhood. Well, not mine but in one, and I was on a darkened residential street in like... the 50's or 60's and all I could feel was the urge to come home. Wherever that was, and "Home" wasn't where I REALLY was, home was in the trip. My family missed me, my father, my mother, my brother and my sister all missed me and wanted me to come home. Then, I noticed an odd sensation... I couldn't place it. It was cold and repeatative, but I knew it, Then I realized, it was me breathing. I felt like ice cold water was coursing through me but, it wasn't uncomfortable ab all. Then something told me to return to my reality before it was too late. I sat up and opened my eyes. I was able to see the spaces between EVERYTHING, and those spaces coursed with the red and whit fractals I told you about. Then I felt a pulling, and I was being tugged back into the Salvia journey and those fractals were digging into me and pulling me back in. I laid back down and clsed my eyes, and reality began to form again, but as I came out of it, I remember the click clack of my sisters shoes, running up to me to pull me out of the asphalt I was sinking into bacuase she didn't want to lose me again. I opened my eyes once more, and just watched the pulsing of the red and white fractals until they faded away. The oddest thing is, I don't have a sister.
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Reading some of the weird experiences on salvia makes me think maybe it can transport you through space and time--in this case, could the child you "became" maybe have been a real one? Either you in a prior incarnation or someone else whose experience you were remembering? If it was you in a past life, could it have been your death in that incarnation (lying in the asphalt, your family worrying, etc.)? If it wasn't you, maybe your consciousness had mixed with that of the free floating thoughts of that child, possibly their memories of dying or some other traumatic event.

On erowid (I think) there was a report from someone who wound up temporarily in another person's body, in a different city, before returning to their own. That was a spacial journey. Yours seems to have included time as well, if your perception of the era was accurate.

According to quantum theory, everything is connected. Maybe SD gives you access to traverse those cosmic connections.

I've had a few bizarre SD trips but have put it aside for now until I'm in a safer place to explore it. In one, I saw a steady stream of hieroglyphics move past my line of sight like a ticker tape. In another, I stroked my cat's fur and had a vision of him six feet tall, standing tall like the cat in the hat. I had the impression that that was how he envisioned himself.
 
Well...
After this past Friday, I may just have to agree with you.
A friend of mine wanted to experience Salvia after I told him of my experience. So he picked up a gram of 20x from his local head shop and came over. I put on some Shpongle. (If you haven't heard them, I definitely recommend giving them a listen.) So, I loaded up the bong for him and he took a big hit and sat back. He looked at me at one point and stated that he was sinking into the couch. I told him he was ok and then was just quiet. after about 5 minutes, he turned to me and just said. "wow". He said that all he could see was my guitar and the hand that was playing the music. (My guitar was hanging on the wall.) He talked of all the people who were with him and trying to get him to come with them.

Then I hit the pipe. much less than my first time, probably the size of a npormal bong hit. Anyways, I found that with that amount, instead of doing the Chuck Yeager like I did my first time and blasting straight through into orbit, I shot up and through the ionosphere and then back down to a cruising altidue where I could actually make sense of the experience. That's when the epiphanies started coming at me like angry comets. Lots of personalinsight as well as insightinto my friends life. I started talking I guess and basically channelled all of those epiphanies verbally. A very deep and introspective evening. I also figured out why the previous journey had been so familiar. This one, I experienced the same but from a vantage point where I could "see"...

More to come...
 
Um... OK.

One of the thing I remember vividly was, cruising along inside as well as outside of, the energy that is, where we come from, where we are, and where we are going. Now I know that this is a different trip for everyone, but... this one is mine. And it is because of this trip and what I experienced that, I am no longer afraid of death. At all. I know, I know that there are those of you out there who will say, it's just the trip, and... if that's what it is/was to you, then fine, it is what it is.

But I reached a place where someone may say "I touched god" but, I think that those people need a frame of reference so that they can understand it better. I don't need that. I understand that I do not fully understand what I saw, but I know I was within the energy that binds us all.

Sounds nutty but... I really don't care.
 
i think it has to do with getting deeper to the areas of the brain that actually produce conscious experience, so everything seems more fundamental and real (hence, people sometimes consider it spiritual)

of course, we didn't evolve like video cameras hooked up to objective computers. our bio-computers are, from the very base of our processing and consciousness, completely subjective and evolved for specific input patterns. so when we experience these very deep levels, they are weird, not entirely sensible, but still they are what gives rise to our higher conscious abilites, so we are sort of 'seeing our souls' in a way
 
Got a gram of 60x salvia extract.. going to do it with a friend tomorow (friday)

I really enjoyed reading your report, would you reccomend me doing it indoors or in a lush national park kind of place (no one around and lovely weather)?
 
Personally, I would recommend a controlled indoor environment. With some decent Music. Like I said earlier, Shpongle totally rules and almost makes sence when under.

But then again, That's just my opinion... I could be wrong.
 
eDDe9 said:
Got a gram of 60x salvia extract.. going to do it with a friend tomorow (friday)

I really enjoyed reading your report, would you reccomend me doing it indoors or in a lush national park kind of place (no one around and lovely weather)?
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it's the sort of drug where environment won't make any difference. you'll go to the same place wherever you smoke it. just consider the question, would you like to meld into the wall/ceiling upon re-entry into this universe, or into the tree?
 
Probably one of the most unnerving aspects of this beautiful little herb is, re-integrating with my body. The eerie wetness of sinking back into your meat at once awful, yet interesting. Especially when there is that repeatative "whatever it is" that just bugs the living shit out of me every time until of course I realize that it is me breathing. Odd...

Anyways, There energy I touched while under, in out, whatever seemed to be filled with a conglomeration (I spell that right?) of... I dunno how to explain it... conciousnesses? Almost like it was made up of... us. Almost like a river that we flow into and out of. so, as a stream runs into a river and in itself becomes the river then, it is no longer the stream. I kinda feel like (After that friday anyways) that is what happens to us when we die. We just flow back into the "river" and we are assimilated. I know, deep and crazy but... It is my opinion after and who knows... I could be wrong.

Either way, this is some very special stuff that is a very awesome tool for spiritual adventuring but not one to be played with.

Anyways...
 
i'm taking a salvia hit just for fun. it has to have been, i dont know, at least a year since ive done it. never really had the urge to repeat it, even though it's so amazing. it's not the type of amazing that wants you to repeat it for some reason

setting: home, girl asleep, some friends just left. they had smoked some salvia i had ordered, hence the renewed interest
set: nervous, lol

dose: they call it a 'standard extract', i am not sure what X. when my friends took a few hits, they didn't break through (and were able to communicate) but they did go 'woah' after the experience and they had some very odd effects, like a pole going through one of their bodies

trip:

i start to feel that familiar weirdness!

oh my god..

okay it's over

the plant causes everything around you to come alive and be a part of the circus that is your mind, pulling forces and pieces are everywhere/everthing

i guess thats the report

i smoked a couple hits, then had a giant reality zipper plow across the room from the left side towards the right. my arms going towards the keyboard felt like things that could be rotated around into or around the salviaverse

it is weird how the salviaverse is totally interconnected with what you see/feel while sober
 
The report at the start of this thread... probably the best explanation of salvia-space i've seen. Agreed that it removes sense data and such, suddenly exposing you to the data flowing in the lower levels of the mind, like where experiential salience is generated.
I have some 1x leaf... might have a joint of that now to get a taste of it again haha. Anyway, well done on the report dude, it was excellent.
 
qwe said:
i keep running close to death as 'ME' is an object of one part of the machinery, but the other parts move on to the next zone. no! don't leave me behind! i'm supposed to go with you, stop leaving me!

holy fucking shit WTF is going on? I keep getting left behind, but I have no idea how to convey what was actually happening in words

... i was a gear, i was multiple gears moving in unison, i was part of other contraptions, i was part of walls, i was walking shapes, mathematical symbols, people, rooms, and completely indescribable things all in this magical dimension.

... salvia-space feels completely familiar, as if i used to live there. before my ego fully developed, as an infant perhaps?
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All three of the "themes" these experiences reflect were brought up near the end of the "Salvia and the Conveyor Belt" thread in PD not long ago. Where did you go?

I don't read about them in reports as often as some other salvia themes, but the sense of being left behind and having to chase down a group I feel I'm a part of, identity substitution with people/objects/entities, and the eerie sense of familiarity with early childhood memories and dreams are all part of nearly every salvia trip I've ever had.
 
^i dont regularly visit PD (which is funny, as that's the forum that brought me to bluelight in the first place), but ill go recheck that thread to see if anyone built on my ideas or replied

that trip report was written years ago, though
 
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